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Hearing you boys talk about these sixties Williams like that does my heart good!
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4 Queens
Bally, 1970-
4 Roses
Williams, 1962
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8 Ball
Williams, 1966
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Abra Ca Dabra
Gottlieb, 1975
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Aladdin's Castle
Bally, 1976
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Alligator
Bally, 1969
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Aquarius
Gottlieb, 1970
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Astro
Gottlieb, 1971
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3 months later
Quoted from dtown:That's a really neat looking game. Do the bowling pins light up?
Yes they do!
1 week later
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:A very nice Spot Bowler indeed Glen - congrats!
- Tim
Thanks, Tim!
I'll have to get busy and see if I can post a few pictures of some of my other games. Especially now that DirtFlipper figured out why I wasn't able to post these pics of the SB.
Always wished I had pictures of my games but have been very lax in this regard.
2 months later
Quoted from pinwiztom:Either i am a lousy cameraman or my camera ain't wortha dang,
here are some fuzzy details of the PF and BG.
These photos and my CAB's original paint job do not do this beautiful pin justice,
it a very pretty game, a one of a kinda, even in its own time.
The backglass animation is one of the best and most clever ever;
a collision of old school pinball taking on the new modern mod era.
Misplaced the leg and head bolts in transit;
so had to go to Ace hardware to get some
to assemble the game.
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p.s. this game came to me from New York
(got it on ebay for a decent price about a decade ago)
and cost me the most to get shipped to me
than any other pin that i have owned, and i have shipped lots.
So that might tell you something about how high i regard this pin.
Tom, I 'wish' you wouldn't post pictures of my Jungle on here...
You're gonna give people ideas. 
Quoted from DirtFlipper:Nearly all Gottliebs do. What do you mean?
That's what I say... he must mean 'did not have' a skill shot.
I can't think of any EM's that DON'T... off the top of my head... but I would think there are some.
Quoted from boilerman:what is the definition of skill shot?
my understanding it is a shot that scores a lot but it is only lit until a point is scored then goes away for the rest of that ball?
To me, the 'skill shot' has always just been another term for the 'plunger shot'.
On most EM's... there is a skill shot (or plunger shot) of some sort.
Could be the particular color 'one' you need to light specials on Sing Along, or the rollover at the top of 4 Roses to get a red and yellow advance and also light the triple advance. Although Kordek designed it so that it was likely... but not a given. Or maybe to plunge just right and get all five advances on Heat Wave... or get the red, white and blue 'ones' on Shangri-La. Etc.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:Your review on IPBD helped me as never played it but you say it's a great player and you know your games
Oh, well... thank you.
What a nice thing to say.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:The thing is that it's true
While researching pins I read everything I can find on the net and what I need to know is if a game is a good player. The rest I can usually work out, i.e art/condition etc.
So, another coming soon and was again influenced by your write up It was like the 'icing on the cake' comment!
Anyway this sat unsold for over 3 months. I passed on it initially but then read something else and was surprised no one had bought her so figured, may as well be the one. Bit of KO hole wear but pretty nice in my book.DSC02538.JPG (Click image to enlarge)
I think you are really going to like both machines, even though they are quite different from each other.
Diamond 'Lil is more the 'nudger's game' of the two... but Coronation is such a stand-out title because of the tremendous 'finesse' needed, I don't think you could go wrong with either one of these games!
1 week later
Quoted from pinwiztom:I think you will end up loving the Teacher's Pet the best.
Very addicting.
Yeah, and I hope you have legs for the Teachers Pet.
No legs for the River Boat is one thing... but finding legs for a TP would likely be a lot more difficult.
Quoted from Pinballprowess:Yeah, and I hope you have legs for the Teachers Pet.
No legs for the River Boat is one thing... but finding legs for a TP would likely be a lot more difficult.
But congrats on the Teachers Pet and the River Boat.
Good additions to your sixties Williams games.
Gotta have a Norm Clark game in there too!
Quoted from o-din:Sure! Apparently after they picked up the machines at Jim's they set them flat on a pallet without blanketing them or wrapping them enough to protect the bottom. No problem on the plywood machines. But particle board.... Jim is not at fault here as I hired the movers and their "white glove" service so he wouldn't have to.
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Ouch!!
1 month later
Quoted from pinwiztom:I am surpized that no one has done a silk screened inked repro BG for Flying Carpet yet,
as most found out in the wild have some sort of flaking or thin paint issues.
Yeah, tell me about it.
I tried to get this glass done... but couldn't get enough people to step up to the plate.
Pikers! 
Quoted from Mikala:Interesting layout. Looks like fun to play.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I've never seen the game before, can you nudge the ball off of that post on the sides and onto the return lane?
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And here we go with a video... as you can see it is not super well implemented...
» YouTube videoYes it is
Yes you can - but it is not as easy as on Centaur or even better on Viking... but it is also not so "easy" to lose your ball by "trapping to hard" like it is on some Gottliebs..
No... it doesn't 'appear' easy. I don't think a nudge would cut it.
Looks like you'd have to give it quite a 'bang' on the lockdown bar to even do it.
But I have never played the game either, so wouldn't know for sure until that time.
6 months later
Quoted from Vic_Camp:Here is the Jet Spin I had in my collection but sold 10 years ago to a friend 2 miles from my house. I might have a chance to buy it back. The condition is off the charts. It might be time to sell my pool table to make some space.
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Get that Jet Spin back!
Quoted from Vic_Camp:Yeah...River Boat!
I know a collector here in NJ that found a River Boat in a dumpster that was in real nice condition. How lucky was that.
If that collector's name was Al... than that is the same River Boat I have in my collection.
Seems likely, as I can't imagine this happens too often.
At least not the same title anyway.
Quoted from boilerman:looks like i can finally remove this one from my want list!
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Good get, boilerman!
What I consider the best asymmetrical two inch flipper game.
Sky Jump being the best asymmetrical three inch flipper game.
1 month later
Quoted from AlexF:A friend from Ca just acquired a couple beauties. Wagon Train and King Pin.
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Don't know about Wagon Train, I've never played one.
But I DO know about King Pin, w-o-n-d-e-r-f-u-l game.
1 week later
Quoted from Drano:Just scored this bad boy!
I have to ship it cross country and over a border... but I've been after one for years!!!
I'll post a restoration thread once I get to it.
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I was 'wondering' who bought this game.
And ya got 'that' right... that is a "score".
Talk about a player's game!
Not to mention, just plain FUN.
Big title, congratulations!!
3 weeks later
Quoted from Shapeshifter:Seem to remember reading an article that he had around 1600 games?
Thought I heard 'a thousand' one time...
That was some time ago though, seems like I also heard he has all (or nearly all) the Gottliebs. And who knows how many Bally or Williams games he has, pretty impressive... or depressive, depending on how you look at it.
Okay... so I see the title of the article says "1,000".
Guess I should have looked first. Duh!
But I 'did' hear the same number many moons ago.
Saw Tim at the recent Banning show here in Southern California, was good to see him.
I like Tim... he's helped me out on more than one occasion.
Quoted from o-din:King Pin and Classy Bowler are on their way to Texas and I got something done this morning.
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That's a beaut!
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:A big Thanks to hoov and Alex for passing these up and o-din for selling them to me.
Finally got a Williams King Pin back in my lineup for good.
Ken
Congrats, Ken... that's a huge score there.
I had a friend come over recently because he had never played a King Pin.
It immediately went on his want list.
2 months later
Quoted from pinwiztom:I went to my WMS parts catalogs to see if they at least had a line drawing
of the face of the drop target for Heat Wave,
but it is not included in the line-up available
in both the '64 and'69 parts catalogs.
They had the drop targets for games before and after though?!?!?!
There is a picture of it and others in the Williams '66 parts catalog.
They are hand-drawn though and are more or less there just to identify a specific target to the part number.
Quoted from boilerman:sky line, K&Q and beat the clock are repainted cabinets. i would bet a dollar to a donut
If I hadn't scrolled down and saw your post, boilerman... I would've been the one saying it.
2 months later
Quoted from NicoVolta:I found this chromed arch at the Pacific Pinball Museum. It kinda grew on me during the visit...
Perhaps you could have it surgically removed??
1 week later
Quoted from pinaholic:Just got this
Pretty hard not to like that glass.
2 weeks later
Quoted from Otaku:A great video by Vic (and JR) with more of this information:
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Looks more like... summer in Siberia.
4 weeks later
Quoted from Elvisinmypants:Dirtflipper had it, told me I should buy it. It took me a week or two the realize he was right.
I think it is really fun to play, it's definitely one of those "one more game" games and the art I completely agree.
It's coming along, it's going to be very nice.
I have seen a fair amount of Space Ships through the years... in collections, at the shows, etc. and have never seen another one with this style of painted cabinet. Or for that matter, in any pictures I have seen of the game. It is possible... 'possible' that this is the one on the flyer, hard to say. But it just seems odd that another one wouldn't have shown up somewhere. Unfortunately, hard to verify one way or the other but an interesting footnote.
And even machines using this same pattern (Ten Spot for instance) I don't recall one that is 'yellow' and white.
1 year later
Quoted from Phillips88:Picked up this nice looking Fun Land. Original backglass is perfect, playfield should clean up nice, low plays on the counter, cabinet looks good, even had the 5 and 10 cent coin mechs. Never played this game before, should be a nice little project.
I'm likin' that original cabinet paint! That's where it's at.
But that game looks to have a beautiful original playfield and glass as well, can't ask for much more than that.
Nice looking example, all the way around. CQ
4 weeks later
Quoted from NicoVolta:Interesting... it has the Ice Show outlanes, but the Ice Revue ruleset and dead middle bumper.
Now if only I could find an Ice Show with the Ice Revue outlanes! Or would that be too easy?
Actually, it would be too hard.
Which is likely the reason why they decided to ultimately put each machine into production (AAB & Replay) as they did.
4 years later
Quoted from John_in_NC:Did a 1000 mile round trip for this project yesterday. Just sweaty enough to require a complete restore with great cabinet hardware and the playfield will clean up perfectly. I’ll restore and repaint the cabinet, clearcoat the playfield, new backglass. Going to be sweet. Finally a cabinet refinish that’s not a red white and blue.
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That cabinet paint looks fine... in fact it looks fantastic, at least the head... you're not showing the rest.
If the cabinet looks that good, or even close... repainting it would be a disservice not only to its original state, but to future owners after you.
2 weeks later
Quoted from John_in_NC:Very nice restoration!
If you think 'that' looks nice.... you should have seen it before it got repainted.
Quoted from John_in_NC:Very nice restoration!
Quoted from John_in_NC:I can imagine. When I restore a game, the sweatier the better.
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Yes, well... I'm glad you didn't take my comments to heart.
First post was actually serious but the second... just ribbing you a bit.
But I hope you... and others here... will at least 'consider'...... keeping games with great original cabinet paint... as is.
Now, I'll be the first to say it... sometimes the paint is so monked up and dilapidated, you just don't have much of a choice.
All I'm saying is... please don't be 'repaint happy'.... that's all.
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