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EM : Show us your EM Pinball Machines!

By Rat_Tomago

7 years ago

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#62 7 years ago

You know I love 60's/70's Gottlieb em's with original's a few pics

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#66 7 years ago
Quoted from Pin-it:

I really like playing the King of Diamonds one of Gottliebs top 10 IMO.

I never tire of KOD - definitely a 60"s classic similar to muscle car classics!

#69 7 years ago
Quoted from Dayhuff:

Here's a few quick shots of mine.
John P. Dayhuff
Battle Creek, MI.

Thanks for showing us games we don't normally see - very nice John. WILC (wish I lived closer for your parties)

#70 7 years ago
Quoted from Mr68:

This is my EM baby. O-din stole my other child...
Playfield has been clear coated and its perfect to this day.

I can see why you're holding on to it Kim. Very nice. I'm looking for one too - just need a little patience.......

#129 7 years ago


I just picked this up about 3 months ago. Believe it or not the guy had it on Knoxville, Tennessee Craigslist for over a week and nobody would give him $500. I offered him $300 because I was a state and a half away and he accepted - it was worth the trip! I played this as a kid at the bowling alley and got re-aquainted at EXPO 2010 in Chicago. 9,580 plays on the meter - look at how shiny the lock-down bar acceptor is.

If you're ever in Illinois Steve stop on in and play it or go to a local show and hopefully they'll have one.


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#130 7 years ago

More Target Pool pics.......

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#131 7 years ago

and a few more.....

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#136 7 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Man! Everyone has a C-37 in this thread. I need to join the C-37 club soon!

Not everyone Rat......still looking here too.

#163 7 years ago

Fixie!........hey Fixie!.........come back!..........I want to see your pics too.

#177 7 years ago

C37 certainly seems to be the flavor of the month lately

#185 7 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Ok, so you three who wish you had a C37....I would like your opinion. My playfield is near perfect as far as paint goes, but the inserts are faded and cupped. Faded is not such a big deal to me because colored led's can handle that. Cupped however drives me crazy. I can't stand seeing the ball change direction on its way around. So here's the question. Would you like it more or less as a potential buyer if I had the pf surface leveled and cleared? And possible new inserts too.

Faded inserts are not a big deal to me - can you even acquire new inserts for your C-37? If the inserts are cuped slightly and don't affect game play that much I would leave them alone. If they are pretty bad I would probably go the clear route although I've never cleared a playfield. If it was cleared I wouldn't want the game to play fast which to me is not normal. Maybe varathane? Can you use the drizzle method and just level the inserts without clearing the whole pf - is that an option? Of course, jmho.

#188 7 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Ok, so you three who wish you had a C37....I would like your opinion. My playfield is near perfect as far as paint goes, but the inserts are faded and cupped. Faded is not such a big deal to me because colored led's can handle that. Cupped however drives me crazy. I can't stand seeing the ball change direction on its way around. So here's the question. Would you like it more or less as a potential buyer if I had the pf surface leveled and cleared? And possible new inserts too.

Pafasa - I like DirtFlippers ideas on your C-37. He has done it and I haven't. I also agree with "leaving it original as much as possible" so I'm also against clear coating.

#201 7 years ago

Looks like trade bait!!!!!!.........smells like trade bait!!!!!! is trade bait!!!!!! Anyone have a nice El Dorado out there for our good buddy boilerman?

#270 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

One more before I take this beauty inside and play the heck out of it.

Play about 50 games for me would ya?

#276 7 years ago


No wonder you were so excited to get that. That would be a holy grail pin to me.

#278 7 years ago
Quoted from John_in_NC:

Here are a couple of my restores.

Nice games John.

Was that hard selling that El Dorado?

#304 7 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

Nice 2001. I bought new bulls-eye targets to put on mine. I went to do it one day and then saw how the targets are soldered into place with all those bare wires. I realized it was more than the simple 20 minute job I was hoping for, so I put it off. I need to dig back in there and finish it after seeing how nice yours look.


I replaced the bulls eye targets on my 2001. Just take off the last blade of the target assembly that holds the target and with the exact size drill bit drill the rivet out holding the old target. Place your metal piece on a flat metal table with a towel underneath. With the new target in place use a Pinball Resources semi-tubular rivet and flare it with a 3/16" flared tool like a nailset or a punch that will flare the rivet. Then, flatten with a hammer. Worked for me.

#305 7 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Here is the last one I brought home back in Dec. I don't really restore them, just clean them up and play them. It had a custom battleship gray paint job and no coin door when I brought it home. I stripped the latex gray paint off, refinished the wood, made a coin door out of an old bowler door and shopped it out. Pretty fun game.

Nice gameroom/games Alex

#333 7 years ago

For the sake of keeping this thread going here's a couple more pics.......

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#334 7 years ago

In the middle of a 2001 restore........I REALLY need to get this done this year. It keeps getting put on the backburner.

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#339 7 years ago
Quoted from pbkzo:

Here are some of them. Mostly 50s and 60s.

Awesome collection

#347 7 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Hoov that is a beautiful Queen of Diamonds. I almost bought one back in 1998. I ended up buying a Bank-A-Ball instead.

You did good. I personally think the 50's games are better to look at but the classic 60's Bank a Ball that you bought is more fun to play. JMHO though.......

#354 7 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

I'll say!! Those pictures are dated 2003!

LOL camera date problem.......actually it's been about 2-3 years.

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#502 7 years ago
Quoted from TheShameGovernor:

Finally something to contribute! Been looking for a wedgehead to add to the lineup, and I just picked up a Gottlieb Sing Along. Backglass is blown, but the playfield cleaned up real nice. I'm still an EM newbie, so I wanted a working single player table that I could learn on as issues arise. The play counter says 4700 plays which doesn't seem like a lot to me for a 46 year old machine considering I've put about 30 games on it already.
The game is addicting as hell, and the art is incredibly charming. I'm sure I'll have some questions later.

Nice score ShameGov

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#576 7 years ago
Quoted from sjohn26148:

I jumped on this quickly. HUO King Pin just obtained Saturday locally. All original parts with the exception of rubber rings and light bulbs. I hope the horseshoe stays put....

Great find. Need to take that horseshoe to a riverboat )

Nice looking King Pin sjohn - also a good player. Is yours a true HUO pin? Most em pins from this era were routed for the beginning of their life. I've come across a few pins like yours with low plays and a shiny lock down bar acceptor but never had one with the bill of sale. I've only seen one Atlantis with a bill of sale that was bought straight from a distributor for $750 and was never on location.

#580 7 years ago

This looks like the 1st pin for sjohn26148 since he only has one listed. If it is welcome to the hobby. Great game to start with. There will be more coming I'm sure..........

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#624 7 years ago
Quoted from Shrub_Light:

I've been wanting to jump in on this thread. Here's some pics of mine I finally took tonight. They still need a lot of TLC, but they'll get it in due time.
The Flip Flop will be going next door once I get her all tuned up. The FC, K&Q, and SA are my keepers.

Great Gottliebs you have there.

Kings & Queens was one of the 1st games I played as a kid at the local bowling alley. If it is well tuned it is a blast to play with the horizontal relay kick-out holes. Haven't played the aab Flipper Cowboy, but the Buckaroo I have has a similar playfield layout. I played a Buccaneer years ago but never a Ship Ahoy.

#675 7 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

pingulps are a required accessory on my games...
whoever posted the jacks open... that looks real nice! jacks open is a great game, i can play it for hours...

I have a Jacks Open and if you get one you won't regret it. This game is the total package - especially if you love card themed games like I do - Gottlieb was the king of them. Someone noted above that not too many surface which seems to be the case. I drove from central Illinois to Omaha, Nebraska, 9 years ago to get mine and I thought I was crazy. Best trip I ever made..........I'm not sure what these are even going for nowadays because you see so few of them for sale.

#676 7 years ago
Quoted from PinHill:

1963 Gottlieb Square Head.

Love the artwork on the Square Head. Among the best in that class. Never have played it though.

#678 7 years ago

damn, a 9 year drive? still using a horse and buggy?

Ya got me on that one - added years ago to say "9 years ago"

#682 7 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

And don't forget Lucky Hand the AAB of JO. I would like either.
And Capt Card is as good as above and just as hard to find.


#686 7 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

i'm probably in the minority here, but i have a strong bias against aab games vs. their replay brethren... you can never "win" against a aab game... which to be fair was the objective...
even now that i'm fortunate enough to have a choice of machines of my very own to play for free, i still want to win every time i push the start button...
plus aab's weren't common in my yute, which likely contributes to my bias as well... had i grown up in an aab state, i'd probably feel exactly the opposite...

And don't forget Lucky Hand the AAB of JO. I would like either.
And Capt Card is as good as above and just as hard to find.

I'm a replay guy through and through BUT when it comes to aab's that have better rulesets, I want to try them out and give them a run for their money. Like games such as Dimension, Captain Card, etc..

But here's my question to you aab folks: When these games were out on route and they were relatively new and playing good (with some required maintenece of course), couldn't a good player win a ton of free balls? And the poor guy with a quarter on the pf glass had to wait......and wait........I had a Gold Strike that looked and played like new that I turned over 3 times and all I heard was pop, pop, pop, when I won free balls. Game time was too long for me. I ended up selling it because I was so disenchanted.

#704 7 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Hoov I'm an AAB guy and my Gold Strike experience was exactly as yours. I bought it thinking it was going to be the grail of all games and found myself "disenchanted" as you say. The game could drag on and started to feel monotonous. I'd start to zone out and lose interest. A couple times I actually shut it off. It was always fun for a game but not one that made me yearn to press start again and again. I have to think El Dorado in this case would be about perfect.
With that said a lot of AAB games are great fun. Getting to that next ball can be more exciting than popping a replay in the right game. It's like having an exciting game go into overtime. As shapshifter said though, the thresholds have to be right. No one respects a game that gives it away too easily. They have to feel earned. I have replay games and I still enjoy the thrill of beating the game and hearing that knocker. That's the goal and it feels great. With a good AAB machine you may get that thrill multiple times in one game. Your progress is saved and with each pop and the excitement builds. You may have a personal goal (high score or roll the machine) and each earned AAB gets you that much closer.

Thanks for the info. Alex

#705 7 years ago

OK, time to get ready for a seasonal business we have coming up around the 1st of October. That means I have to take my projects out of the sales area and put them in the back room. Here's the 1st three against the back wall.

Believe it or not I'm most excited about shopping and playing Flying Carpet since I haven't played it since high school.


#706 7 years ago

Next is Bank a Ball.......


#707 7 years ago

Then 4-Square........ it's tentatively sold when shopped. I started on the playfield but haven't had time to get back to it.projects_016.jpg

#708 7 years ago

And finally Atlantis - that game is sold but I had to move it into storage till it get's picked up.

Well, I'm outa room


#713 7 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

Dave that flying carpet loks nice, very under rated wedge head IMO. I have been looking for one local with a nice PF for a while and haven't found one yet.

I agree that it seems to be one that gets no love. One of my favorites as a youngster. Simple but challenging to get all the letters. Love the playfield layout to get above the pops in that area to knock out the targets/letters. This one was on route in my local area and this game I got was the one I played at local bowling alleys which is kind of cool too. I just happened to meet another guy at an auction earlier this spring bidding on a Sky Jump (went too high) and he lives just seven miles away from me. I traded him a project 2001 for it since I have a 2001. This one does have a nice playfield - about 70K plays but has the faded cabinet that is normal for these. Backglass is decent but I'll be looking to upgrade it if I can.

#714 7 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

An uncommon pair.

Very nice looking side by side.

#718 7 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

"closet raid" at hoov's!
i see a jukebox there too...

The Rockola 1448 jukebox you see in the pics is sold to a Netherlands buyer who will be here for a juke show and pick up in Nov.. The check is already in the bank I see Lloyd at coin-op warehouse has a nice working '57 Rockola similar to mine for sale on his fb page today - I think he wanted $1450. They don't last too long at his place though. You gotta move in lightning quick. Wish I lived closer to him.

#722 7 years ago
Quoted from pinster68:

Here's my first EM, purchased November 2012. The first two shots are as in was in the door. The illuminated shot is after a thorough shop & parts tumble. Hard to tell in low light but it looks and plays great now. I was so impressed how well these were built. Need to buy more.

Great combo with the 2" flippers and the vari-targets. Most vari-target games have 3" flippers such as Jet Spin, Pro Football, etc.

#733 7 years ago

It's Play Ball (replay) or Home Run (aab). If you're in Denver my money is on the Play Ball.

#744 7 years ago
Quoted from Craig:

Fun thread! Thanks to all for the pics.
I have only one EM, a Volley, but I'd like to pick up another eventually, perhaps a Bank-a-Ball in good shape. I could easily imagine getting into EMs in a bigger way. They have such a distinctive charm, and most are still affordable. This is pinball as I remember it. Great stuff.


I have a Bank a Ball for sale right now with pics up in the market place if you ever want to look at them. I'm in IL though ):


#756 7 years ago
Quoted from Craig:

Thanks, Dave. If you were a lot closer, I'd come over for a look. I think the shipping would make this unworkable, unfortunately.
By the way, I did a search in the marketplace and couldn't find it. You can send me the link by PM or post it here. It would be nice to see the machine anyway.


Oops.......I didn't renew my Pinside machine for sale ad after it expired. There you go - it's up on the "Market" now.


#805 7 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

I had them send me a few good pictures, it doesn't look to bad. only a few miles from me. I like looking at woodies but they are not a ton for fun. just picked up a kings and queens today
I sold 4 and now time to buy 4
3 more to go

Did you sell your C-37? Kings & Queens ranks right up there in the top 5 of my favorite em's

#813 7 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

dave still looking for a slick chick? if let me know I know someone selling one
and I sold one c37 and the 2nd is still listed.
K&Q has been on my wish list for a while

Because of money right now I'll have to get both as projects and local - may be awhile............

#816 7 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Very cool, Congrats!
Hoping to get this game and restore it, but the owner seems pretty firm on her too-high pricetag. It does not work (motorized reset bank runs constantly), Playfield is pretty badly worn, glass is broken but nicely duct taped! Owner bought it years ago as an "investment" spent $200 then and wants a return on her investment now. I live 75 miles away from it and can't be sure if I could even repair the reset bank. There are obsolete/unavailable parts on that unit that could be broken. I will stay in touch with them and hopefully make a deal at a fair price for each of us someday. My fair price would be no more than $100 given its condition and distance and the unknown of the reset bank problem. What do you guys think?

Look up Brian Saunders over on rgp. He is the Bally guru. I know on Gottliebs you can always part a game out for at least a couple hundred if your game is unrestorable. Someone over on rgp recently said they parted a Gottlieb em and kept something they needed and still made over $400. Not sure about parting out Bally's though. I'd think $200 would be fair for that title but not much more unless this is a game you really like and are going to keep and not sell.

#820 7 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

I'm not necessarily looking to flip the game. I like to buy and fix and play and see......
If I like it, Great! If I don't, then I dont want to be too upside down on it. I think to resell this game would take quite a bit. Doubt I'd be able to even move it with the playfield as is. If I could buy it cheap enough, it would be great as my first playfield restore project. Otherwise I am not interested.
Looks like a really fun game though. AAARRRGGGhhhhhhhh!!!

Yeah, that playfield is toast isn't it? I didn't even click on the pic. Would be a players game at best. Now were down to $100 and she probably wouldn't go for that.

#846 7 years ago
Quoted from Sandals:

Here are mine, not the best pics.
Wizard, Capt Fantastic and Williams Big Daddy.
Grew up with the Big daddy in the basement, and I still keep playing that one the most.

Can the boys beat "big Daddy" on Big Daddy yet? Nice games.......

#847 7 years ago
Quoted from lb45:

I love this post.
My contribution, with old pictures taken some years ago (early posted on Pinside)
Added a picture off the cabinet , because beautiful part of the machine too.

There's a title we don't don't see much (I have the El Dorado). Thanks for sharing.....

#864 7 years ago

Ya can't beat a bunch of Gottlieb em's in all different shapes and sizes - nice. Makes me want that Abra back I sold........

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#896 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

moved a few thing around today so I took a few pictures
the garage

Nice wedgehead collection boilerman.....

You have a few titles I would like to have but don't have the space. I could put some in the barn but the mice would want to play them )

#905 6 years ago

That's what I did too. I had a Hot Shot with a broken gear and I just bought the correct score motor and floated all the switches/wiring back on the new one.

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#963 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

here are my two new additions

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Your 2 new additions are coming along nicely. K&Q is my favorite 60's game with KOD right behind it.

#965 6 years ago

I just joined the C-37 club this weekend............

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#966 6 years ago

Here's a game you don't see come up for sale that often. Not a bad player. These aren't the greatest pics. 1st Gottlieb to utilize the bonus countdown feature.

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#973 6 years ago
Quoted from manitouguy:

hoov, welcome aboard ... really nice c37!!
and I've always liked the glass and plastics art on the snow derby (would be a nice partner with funland I've always thought)

Thanks. There was a Funland at EXPO over the weekend. 1st time I played it.

#977 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Welcome to the club!
Safest way to hit that lower bullseye target is backhand. Don't let the Open Elbow get you when trying to cradle on the right flipper though.

Thanks for the tip on the lower bullseye. Jacks Open took me to school on the open elbow several years ago.

Hey Pafasa, I met ovdfireman at EXPO and John Fetters sold me the game. You know these guys?

#979 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

The fireman is my best friend. Close to 20 years. Wish I could have gone to Expo this year. He and I made the previous two years together but I screwed up this year and used up too much of my vacation time from work. Next year will be different. I'll be there.
Don't think I know John Fetters unless I know him through pinside under a different name.
Greg picked up a couple backglasses for me from Steve Azzam of BGRESTO.COM.
One C37 and one ACD. I'll see them tonight and get pics. The cool thing is the fact that the glass is perfect on the ACD i just picked up yesterday. Some side by side pics of those two glasses will be pretty neat. I'll post them here.

Cool. I get my Abra back I sold to a guy eight years ago this winter sometime when I can get a game shopped to trade him.

#982 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

I may have an extra glass if you end up needing it.

I shouldn't because the glass in the game I sold to him was very nice but thanks for the offer.

#983 6 years ago
Quoted from Drano:

I posted my C37 playfield resto way back in this thread.
Over the last week, I spent some time freshening up the cabinet. I had some badly faded pinks.
Here are some shots of my progress.
Hopefully this will all be buttoned up within the next week. Playfield re-assembly starts today.

Wow, really makes a difference doesn't it? Thanks for sharing........

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#1064 6 years ago
Quoted from nick-the-greek:

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Thanks for sharing pics of your collection Nick - very nice

#1070 6 years ago
Quoted from sysprog:

Here's mine:

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Another nice collection - ahhhhh Atlantis & 4 Square - a couple of my favorites - Gottlieb of course......... Also like your other em games. I'm getting real close to getting my '66 Williams Pitch and Bat working.

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#1111 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Here's the pin I am getting in a few days. I can't wait!

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Is that the new camo look?

#1136 6 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I picked up Big Daddy this morning, and not only is it a beautiful machine, it is also a great player. Don't these two look like they belong next to each other? Thanks again Robert, for providing me with two of the nicest machines in my collection.

Looka nice side by side. So, yes, I noticed all the cards are dropped down on KOD - hmmmmnnnn, 792 points and 14 credits up.

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#1138 6 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Yes, when I went to take the picture, I looked at KoD and was not happy with what was left from the last game, so I played a quick one, and completed the mission for the first time. Not sure how many I one though. But it has been a great day. Once I get the right size Buckaroo legs, I will have a Big Daddy sandwich.

My KOD is set for 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800.

Yes, you will have a Williams sandwiched by 2 Gottlieb wedgeheads. Should stick a Williams reverse wedgehead in the sandwich.

#1142 6 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I picked up Big Daddy this morning, and not only is it a beautiful machine, it is also a great player. Don't these two look like they belong next to each other? Thanks again Robert, for providing me with two of the nicest machines in my collection.

The Big daddy does look very nice - I got ta see the complete sandwich when you get it assembled.

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#1143 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

As I write this the pin that Boilerman sold me is 8 hours away on the truck in Memphis, TN. That means my new pin will be in the Dallas area at 8:30am CST. Man I hope they actually deliver the machine today instead of dropping it off at a warehouse and then delivering it the next day.

Do you have your binoculars on you? Good luck with your game Rat. The waiting is the hardest part.

#1191 6 years ago

Thanks to dirtflipper for the Slick Chick tip! Plus an extra playfield to boot.

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#1195 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

nice grab dave. how is the playfields around the pops? that is the most worn spots on these.

The playfields look pretty good to me between the pops. The playfield with the best parts on the back with no rust or whitish residue/corrosion has contact paper under all but the outer 4 pops. It also has a small hole drilled between the flippers like someone had a post there at one time. The other playfield is actually better all around with neither of those two problems (no contact paper - no hole drilled in pf) but the parts on the back are pretty bad coated with a whitish residue and rust present pretty bad - I wouldn't attempt to use the parts - electrically speaking. So, 2 choices here: a - plug the hole at the bottom of the playfield and match the best I can - remove the contact paper under the pops and repair the best I can, or plan b - swap playfield parts from one playfield to another (which sounds like a big undertaking to me but may be the better choice).

#1196 6 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Awesome to finally find that Slick Chick Dave. And having an extra playfield is extra nice. Congrats!
Thanks to DirtFlipper and LeckMeck. They were on a 3 state tour yesterday. I now have a Drop-A-Card and Royal Guard projects to play around with. Dirt helped coordinate the sale and delivery from Mn.

Thanks Alex. And, congrats too on the Drop a Card and Royal Guard - very good games too. With the cold weather coming up this winter, you're set!

#1197 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Pretty cool! Nice collection hiding behind the Slick Chick too!

Thanks pafasa

In order clockwise against the wall and then turning to the right:

'66 Williams Pitch and Bat
The rest all Gottliebs
Bank a Ball
Kings and Queens
King of Diamonds
Drop a Card
El Dorado #1 sample
Jacks Open
Centigrade 37
Abra Ca Dabra (coming this winter)
Slick Chick

In storage needs repair with no place to put them without taking one of the above games out:

Fast Draw
Snow Derby
Flying Carpet

I need a new building!

#1199 6 years ago

I just updated the thread I started last month titled "emwishlist........". I took two games off and added North Star last night - haha

All you need is a Flying Carpet! I'm looking into my crystal ball and I see three of them coming up for sale within three hours of you in 2014

#1201 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Hoov swap the parts on the bottom of the playfield. Don't deal witht he drilled hold and contact paper. It will be more difficult but more rewarding in the end. Oh and congratulations on the score.

Thanks Rat - I'm leaning in that direction. Won't get to it for some time though. My turn-around on games isn't all that great.........

#1205 6 years ago

Are you busy?

#1212 6 years ago

That Jungle Princess does look nice. Reminds me of the Jungle Queen I sold a few years back. Those games from that era weren't beat up so bad their predecessors. If only I had more room to keep games like these..........

#1216 6 years ago
Quoted from SPeD66:

The girlfriend gets all of the credit for cleanup once I got the pin home. Although it wasn't especially dirty to begin with, she really put a shine on it. If the play counter is to be trusted, it shows a little over 25,300 plays.
But yeah, this is one of the nicest condition EM games I've ever seen... so I had to have it! Plays great too. Just need to learn how to make some adjustments. The player two score reel sometimes turns along with player one. But when player two is up, everything works as it should & the player one reel doesn't turn. But I suppose I should start a tech thread for that.
Anyhoo, thanks for the nice comments & thumbs up! I'm loving this Jungle Princess.

Now, that's my kind of girlfriend! Congrats on the girlfriend! Oh, and the Jungle Princess too )

#1230 6 years ago

Hand prints under Abra.........

Nice variety Rat - and good taste in games.

#1293 6 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I just put one of my "vinyl players" up for sale if anyone is interested? link

Did you rebuild the amp yourself Alex?

#1298 6 years ago

I just sold a Rockola 1448 and I have a '50 Seeburg 100B. I like any of these older jukes where you can see the vinyl play in front of you. I was looking at a Paradise at an estate sale last summer and they had a Seeburg R - beautiful - wish I would have bought it but I didn't have the money.

#1333 6 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

I have an desire for Slick Chick and haven't played Abra Ca Dabra yet. Like i said.... been out of room for 10 years and have been really haven't been buying anything,actually Sing a Along,North Star,Silver Sails and Top Card bought in the last 5 years or so. I never store any games and always have all my games playing like factory new.

Very nice collection Vic. You have enough machines to qualify for "small museum status" in my book. Give Abra Ca Dabra a chance. Find a nice one - the artwork on the playfield and the rule set are what makes it special.

#1350 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

I think a Kings and Queens or El Dorado are next on my list followed closely by a 2001.

I have them all Rat and they're all great games.

#1351 6 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Sing Along sure is a very pretty machine. It is next on my list.

Isn't that artwork great? I've always wanted to snag one too......... I do have a Kings and Queens though so I'm happy.

#1356 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Gaaaaaaar. But they weren't for sale.

Just means you have exquisite tastes.......

#1359 6 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Well look what the cat drug in today!
My Gottlieb Sure Shot and Sonic Prospector, fresh off the NAVL truck.
I was too busy wrenching on Sure Shot so that is why I'm posting late.
They both need my usual work before I can play them but they will look and play great when I'm done.


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#1380 6 years ago

I've been looking to snag a Volley myself.........

#1403 6 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Double vision...
(One to keep, and one to toss back into the pond.)

Just more projects though.

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Very nice..........

#1405 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

You know Dirt, we don't really live that far apart. What happens to the unwanted Atlantis?

Grab it if you can Pafasa! Dirt has a knack for procuring good titles.........

#1406 6 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Grab it if you can Pafasa! Dirt has a knack for procuring good titles.........

He's a great guy to deal with too!

#1424 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

vic the one thing you have I wish I had is......Room
I have 19 wedgeheads and would have more if I had more room
thinking of building a 30'x40' out building with an upper level
I am a vinyl guy but no jukebox at the moment

What? no juke? - to go along with all those nice pins. Can't squeeze one in anywhere? I like my 1950 Seeburg B.

#1431 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

had a few but sold them
last few years it has become hard as hell to get a visible mech machine at a fair price

I hear ya

#1441 6 years ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Just picked up my first EM TODAY and I'm here to join the club!!!

I'm well aware that this is not the highest regarded EM, but my wife and I really enjoyed playing this title when we visited Klassic Arcade in Gobles, MI ( a few months back.

If you're not familiar with it, the main feature on this machine is a newton’s cradle captive ball unit.

When you hit the ball on the bottom, the top one pops over to the other side. Move all 5 balls to the designated side and you are rewarded with an extra ball. We felt like the real fun was playing with two players, because the side you’re shifting the balls toward for your extra ball changes for each player, so you can HINDER the other person’s game! Ha-ha!
To add to the challenge, there are no in-lanes, but kick-out saucers at the base of your flippers (SO NO CRADLING!), which keeps the pace of the game pretty active!

Anyhow, just wanted to share my excitement. I've been pouring over this thread for the past couple weeks and proud to finally join it!
Ryan Claytor
Elephant Eater Comics

I was near Klassic Arcades a few years back for a convention and stopped in to play their games. Nice to have a local place to play em's on location.

Welcome to our group! Just remember, one becomes two, two becomes three, etc.. Amazingly, they reproduce!

#1453 6 years ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Quick question: Does anyone have advice on the best way to go about clearing a backglass? I started a topic over here:
...but thought I might find some knowledgeable folks in this thread. I recently purchased my first EM, and the BG is pretty immaculate.

I'd like to preserve it, but I'd also like to do it right the first time.
Thanks, guys!
Ryan Claytor
Elephant Eater Comics

Sealing with Kylon Triple Thick is only necessary if you have any lifting of the paint due to moisture, bulb heat, etc.. If you have scratches or other defects where the paint is not lifting or if your backglass just doesn't have any problems, don't seal it. You may cause more harm than good.

If you do seal it, Wal Mart and other stores carry Triple Thick. Since Krylon makes so many different products you have to make sure you get the right one. Ask for Triple-Thick 0500.

Do not clean your backglass. Lay your glass on the floor. Cut up card stock, playing cards etc., to the shape of the score reel windows and credit window. I cut mine slightly smaller than the painted area. Place weights such as quarters, etc., to hold the cut-outs in place. Apply a uniformally heavy 1st coat of triple-thick starting at the top with your can about 6 inches away from the glass. Use left to right sweeping motions and work towards the bottom. This 1st heavy coat "sets" the paint chips that have lifted and bonds them to the product which stops the flaking process. Apply 2 more lighter coats reversing direction each time you spray your glass. Let dry at least 24 hours before you touch-up with paint. Seal your touch-ups with triple-thick when you're done. I spray some in the cap and use a q-tip for small touch-ups.

This is just how I do it. Everyone has their own way.........

#1468 6 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

I also like doing this. I also like taking all the metal bits under the apron and the metal piece that holds the glass, and having them re-chromed. Just like the way the light hits and reflects. Not really bling just makes them pop. Only worth doing if keeping for a while, as most people wouldn't notice really.
This is the CC metal piece at the back - re- chromed.

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Very nice........

#1485 6 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Yea, I don't really want to part with it, but have other projects that are waiting and need the room. (game is already spoken for ) Considering *all* the original paperwork was with the game in pristine condition as well....
Here's a few more to enjoy!

That is one sweet PIN-UP!

#1515 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

If anyone is interested I am picking up a gtb top score 2 player. it is from a family friend
from what i have seen it looks pretty nice. I can work out a good deal for anyone here.
I think top score / 300 is a pretty good multi player game
anyone in the SE Pa area interested let me know I will get some pictures this weekend.

300 was the 1st game I bought when I entered this crazy hobby called pinball......... Like the backglass animation on this one. Had to sell to make room for wedgies

#1547 6 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Fresh off a rebuild before sliding into the lineup. This is a production version; I have a sample game to do later.

Very nice work Dirt. Lot's of shiny metal and bright paint! Anyone would be happy to have that game in their collection. Low plays too - common for the end of the em era............

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#1548 6 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Time to post here with my new 1976 Gottlieb Sure Shot I just finished working on for the most part. More details/pictures of this machine here:

Nice Ken!

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#1549 6 years ago
Quoted from popeboy:

Thanks guys... I'm checking all my CL and Ebay feeds daily, so you know it's all downhill from here

Welcome to the craziness pope! One becomes two. Two becomes three. You get it..........they reproduce all on their own ) Make plenty of room now!

#1559 6 years ago

I-80 would have carried a lot of games out east from Chicago during the em heyday. When was I-80 completed though? Here locally our interstate wasn't done until the 60's.

#1576 6 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

I-80 would have carried a lot of games out east from Chicago during the em heyday. When was I-80 completed though? Here locally our interstate wasn't done until the 60's.

Our interstate was started in 1958, finished locally in 1965, and finally finished as a whole in late 1971 - so probably pretty close to the norm for the entire interstate system.

#1587 6 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

I always inquire and ask questions about the machine when i purchase them from their owner,especially a low played beauty like your DC. The story and history behind the machine is interesting to know and for future reference. I document as much information about my machines as possible and store it inside the coin box compartment of each game.

I do the same thing. The history of the game is the coolest part.

#1611 6 years ago
Quoted from Arcade:

Got home from work to find a Pinball Resource box at my door.
Got a couple of pop bumper rings, springs, and light sockets.
New coil for my Hot Tip pop bumper.
Shiny new red start buttons for my Gottlieb 2001 and Flip a Card.
Some new coin stickers and plastics for my Gottliebs as well as a new ball in play card.
And of course some shiny new caster feet.

Ahhhhh, your Christmas present just arrived........

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#1624 6 years ago
Quoted from Phatchit:

My 1960 Willams Jungle . It's picked this up and plan on doing a full tear down and restore . Right now there isn't to much available for this beauty .

Cool game I've never seen. Backglass animation with 8 animals popping up - going through any of the 6 rollovers or 2 gobble holes will knock down an animal in the backglass. Getting all down will light special.

Here's the IPDB link:

#1679 6 years ago
Quoted from kovalski3:

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Nice looking low production/wedgeheads Adam........ That looks to be a Blue Note with the playfield out of it. There's a rare game you don't see much.

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#1742 6 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

One Atlantis down, one more to go. Last rebuild of the year.
(Gotta find my extra instruction card still.)

The inside:

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Nice restore Dirt. Someone is going to get a nice Atlantis for their game room. You said you're keeping one and selling one right? Is this the one you're going to put up for sale?

#1759 6 years ago
Quoted from Caucasian2Step:

Finally getting around to posting my Analog kids pics. Enjoy!

Try manually select file(s) to unload and then after they're all uploaded send your post.........

#1763 6 years ago

Super collection 2step - several great games there.

#1815 6 years ago
Quoted from cantbfrank:

My newest addition:

Very very nice Pin Up. I miss my King Pin. I'll just have to get another.........

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#1879 6 years ago
Quoted from kovalski3:

Not Shopped out yet, but here is my blue note.

Very nice - very hard to find title. I know someone in Illinois that's been looking for that game for a long time.

#1913 6 years ago

Perfect placement.........

Atlantis and Abra just seem like they should be next to each other.

'75 was a good year for GTB.....

1975-08 "300" Gottlieb EM ~7,925 Mechanical Back... 4p 388 21 7.5
1975-11 Abra Ca Dabra Gottlieb EM 2,825 1p 383 35 7.9
1975-01 Atlantis Gottlieb EM 2,225 1p 369 34 7.9
1975-03 El Dorado Gottlieb EM 2,875 1p 370 35 7.8
1975-03 Fast Draw Gottlieb EM 8,045 4p 379 10 7.8
1975-11 Gold Strike Gottlieb EM 675 Add-A-Ball 1p 372 22 8.0
1975-11 Lucky Strike Gottlieb EM 1,013 Add-A-Ball 1p 371 25 7.9
1975-04 Pin-Up Gottlieb EM 715 Add-A-Ball 1p 353 21 7.7
1975-06 Quick Draw Gottlieb EM 2,660 2p 380 18 7.8
1975-03 Soccer Gottlieb EM 2,900 2p 368 17 7.9
1975-07 Spin Out Gottlieb EM 2,850 1p 375 23 7.2
1975-12 Spirit of 76 Gottlieb EM 10,300 4p 381 26 7.8
1975-01 Super Soccer Gottlieb EM 7,130 Mechanical Back... 4p 367 27 7.7
1975-08 Tiger Gottlieb EM 1,100 Add-A-Ball 1p 378 6 8.2
1975-10 Top Score Gottlieb EM 3,200 2p 389 20 7.8

#1925 6 years ago

Sold an Abra Ca Dabra eight years ago to a guy up in Minneapolis. He wanted a different game so I traded him a nice Royal Flush so I could get my Abra back. It has one slight flaw above the left flipper, slight insert wear, and slight flaking in the backglass but not bad - I will touch-up. Ordering the lower plastics from Pinball Rescue.

While up there why not visit DirtFlipper since I was close? He even threw a pinball get-together . I can tell you his games and the rest of his game room look even better in person. Thanks Dirt! Now I want a Hit the Deck.

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#1926 6 years ago

More of the collection..........

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#1929 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Nice lineup hoov! Nice condition on all those games! That "Abra Ca Dabra" is cherry!

Thanks. I just missed the challenge of getting that special lit. Great rule set. And, it was one of the nicest games I've gotten through the doors too - not going to let it go this time.

#1930 6 years ago
Quoted from Pin-it:

Great looking selection of games hoov.

Thanks Pin-it

#1933 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

I don't see that new sing along

Didn't like the game play (cross between my Kings and Queens and Crosstown which I sold) on Sing Along as much as Kings and Queens. Although I'm kind of biased on Kings and Queens since it was one of the first games I scored a replay on as a kid.

Sold it to Dirt!

#1934 6 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Anytime you want to get rid of it again Dave just let me know and I will gladly take it off your hands.
Beautiful game you have by the way.

Thanks Ken

#1936 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Yup, you nailed it. "Sing Along" is basically a cross between "Kings & Queens" and "Cross Town". It's a very pretty game though and would go great between the other two!

I've got a Slick Chick and when I get that restored some day I don't know where it's gonna go.........

#1968 6 years ago

I'd certainly be proud to own that Diamond Jack. Very nice........

#1974 6 years ago


According to an old archived rgp post from Herb Silvers those old Rockola baseball games can be worth some real money since they are so rare.

Here's a quote:

Want to talk expensive how about a Rockola All Star Baseball $125,000 Or Rockola 27 World Series Baseball 65,000 They went for about 600 back in the day new. That my friends is expensive. Lets see a new house or a Rockola Baseball huh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#1975 6 years ago
Quoted from popeboy:

I just saw this pop up on the Columbus Oh Craigslist this morning. I know there is a lot of love for Slick Chick in the EM world and this guy is restoring one that will be up for sale shortly. Don't know this guy, so no recommendation from me, but I thought some of you might be interested if you are in or around Ohio.
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Carry on...

Looks like he's getting the word out early huh?

#2008 6 years ago
Quoted from velcroman:

The Diamond Jack has found it's new home. Great addition.

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It's in good company. Cool rare bowling games too.

You say you've been collecting a long time. Is this just part of what you have? Would like to see more pics )

#2013 6 years ago

Fantastic collection velcroman!

Thanks for the pics. AlexF will enjoy these.

#2022 6 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

A lazy saturday afternoon with light snow falling gives me time to upload a few pics of my latest project. Quick Draw I picked up in Maryland (yes, that's 6 hours from me! ) Price was right and aside from the usual flaking in the BG, and a full restoration on the playfield.......standard 100+ hours on the whole thing. Enjoy!

Worth every gallon of gas it took Stashyboy. Very nice Quick Draw. I'm with you. If you want the nice games sometimes you have to drive for them.

#2070 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

From page 38 of this thread;
Just went back and saw this. Wow; a "KOD" sample game! You say the inserts have black numbers on them instead of red. I wonder if the roto target was redone with stickers. I would think those numbers would also be black because Gottlieb already had made black targets with the same card designs for their 1960 "Spot A Card" woodrail.
The score reels number font also looks different on your game than those of the production game.

I just went and looked at heatwave's KOD. Cool sample game.

Hey heatwave - send some pics of your sample King of Diamonds to The Internet Pinball Database so everyone can enjoy.........

#2074 6 years ago
Quoted from dmesserly:

I guess I'll jump on board the thread. I've been collecting (really buying and selling) since 2003 and bought my first EM about 2 years ago. I got a Surf Champ and Jet Spin from Don Owen in MD, near DC. Great guy and does a fantastic job on his pins. Don't hesitate to buy from him if he puts anything up for sale.
Anyway, I ended up getting a Quick Draw at the Texas show in 2012 and sold the other two in one of my bouts of inventory management. I regret selling the Surf Champ the most as it was a lot of fun.
I haven't thought much about EMs as I spent time with the SS and DMDs but I've decided I need a wedgehead...or two. So I'm looking at the classics from the 60s with the short flippers and I really like the animated backglasses.
Here's a few pics of current and former inventory.
Quick Draw is in the collection.

Surf Champ left and is missed.

Jet Spin is gone. OK game but not as fun as the others.

Thanks for sharing Dave - I've heard Don does nice work.

I'm a little biased but for 2" Gottlieb wedgeheads with animation, try King of Diamonds, Bank a Ball, Skyline, Crosstown, and Central Park to name a few. For non-animated wedgeheads I like Kings and Queens and I hear Slick Chick is a favorite (I haven't restored mine).

#2103 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Please at least bring 2001 to the Texas Pinball Festival. I have not played a 2001 and would like to.

Combination of nudging and good shooting along with a little luck. Good game - one of the few 2" games with drops.

#2107 6 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

I have emailed Shay 3 different times, all with different questions and all with no response. I'm done asking him for anything.

Shay is a very busy person and I just keep e-mailing him - he'll eventually get back to you. I understand your position though Ken.

#2112 6 years ago

Good job Ken - looks nice

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#2133 6 years ago
Quoted from kovalski3:

I had the Williams 10 pins fully restored. It took 2 years. When I finally got It back, inset it up in my living room. Another collector came to look at a pinball machine and "had to have it" . Lets just say he made me an offer that was too good to pass up. I Love that machine though.

I bet you wouldn't turn down another truckload like that one. Thanks for sharing.

#2137 6 years ago

This one is done and sold to a fellow Pinsider.

In the middle of Flying Carpet now - should be done in a few more days. Nice playfield, decent cabinet, and backglass has been taped w/packing tape and touched up (hard to find a nice backglass on this era of game).

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#2140 6 years ago
Quoted from Garrett:

Wow, that playfield looks great!

Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Great job with the El Dorado hoov!

Thanks. Can't think of a better way to spend these cold winter months than fixing up these old beauties.

#2144 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Hoov that is crazy nice! Congrats whoever bought it!

Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

I tried to buy an El Dorado off Ebay that was listed for $2000.00 during Christmas and made an offer but I guess it was not good enough for them. The offer was substantial too. As far as I know he never sold it. link

New drop targets courtesy of Steve Young & associates. This playfield looks better than mine.

#2149 6 years ago
Quoted from MikeO:

Nice work on the El Dorado. I would be proud to own that game.
Mike O.

Thanks Mike

Your collection is impressive. Looks like you've had a lot of games go through your doors over the years.

#2151 6 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

You beat me by an hour I think. .........

Message received from kovalski3 on 01/28/2014 at 11:55 CET

Message received from replay on 01/28/2014 at 12:20 CET (Shapeshifter)

It turns out to be only 25 minutes.......

If I find another nice El Dorado I'll let you know. The good news is most of these El Dorado's I've come across in the Midwest that were on location tend to be in pretty nice shape considering.

#2158 6 years ago
Quoted from Gerry:

Here we go. Just a taste

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That Hurdy Gurdy looks to be a real nice original - everything looks good on it - most of these are pretty beat up. Your World Series head also looks good too.

Way to go - I would go get those two games anyday.

#2163 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

ship ahoy looks great
one of the few AAB games I really liked.
red dot flipper coils really make this game even better

orange dot?

Yes, the game looks nice. Played a Buccaneer years ago.

#2167 6 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

These are the new ones Steve at PBR made that are so powerful the ball will go through the back of the Cabinet and through your house wall. Impress your friends!

Good one Ken.....

#2173 6 years ago

I usually find if I clean (or replace if necessary) all the flipper parts and adjust both cabinet and EOS switches (or replace) and check the ohms of the 5194 coil I don't need orange or yellow dot coils. You can also high-tap the game if needed.

I tried an orange-dot once on a Drop a Card and it played abnormally fast for me - not the same as on location.

Of course this is just my opinion - if it works for you and you like it fast and furious that's great.

#2175 6 years ago

I was told if drop targets are at an angle they won't break as easy.

Also having 2 rubber rings helps absorb a hard impact somewhat.

The worst drop target bank for breakage is straight on - perpendicular to the flippers.

#2178 6 years ago

Orange Dot = 10% more power
Yellow Dot = 20% more power

#2190 6 years ago

Picked up 4 GTB projects today from a guy so packed with games he could hardly work. Had them across the street in his Mom's garage too . Sometimes ya just gotta sell............

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#2193 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Hoov I see Sky Jump, Big Brave and Surf Champ. What is the 4th one? Jacks Open?

That 4th one be High Hand. You know, the one WITHOUT the resetting drop targets )

#2195 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

took a team one in a trade today. it looks like it was not on route very long if ever. there is no ball arch wear and it is super clean.
It also had the ball lane metal guides

Remarkable game..........

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#2196 6 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Ugg! You were thinking..."Oh man why can't this be a Captain Card?"
I would have been drooling all over the Kings and Queens I see in the picture.

The Kings and Queens you see is his personal one in his collection not for sale. If you look at the Kings and Queens head in the rack, the head next to it to the left is the 2nd Kings and Queens he has up for sale. It is the ugly repaint that is light blue with 2 red diamonds. The base is not pictured. The kick-out holes had a lot of wear and the backglass was decent. I didn't buy it.

#2200 6 years ago
Quoted from ahanson:

Nice grab hoov. I love my Surfer.
What's the one in the one of the pictures where you see a car on the side of the cabinet (next to the K's&Q's)?

Good question - anyone?

#2208 6 years ago

That's a nicer Surfer than the one I just picked up yesterday. I'm going to try to upgrade the backglass on mine.

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#2243 6 years ago

Your Jumping Jack looks nice from what I can see. One of the better multi-players because of the resetting drop targets. And you can't beat the well-endowed girls on the backglass. Your backglass looks pretty good from what I can see. The playfields all seem to have that wear by the upper kick-out holes. A new set of drop targets from PBR would make it look real nice.

#2258 6 years ago

Way to go Rat.

That playfield sure shines. boilerman's restores sure do look nice.

#2278 6 years ago

If anyone wants to buy a super nice Quick Draw in the New York area I just ran across stashyboy's Pinball Owners ad:

Click on the Quick Draw pics to see

#2283 6 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

May already be spoken for.........
(thanks for the props Hoov!)

No problem - just stating the obvious )

#2305 6 years ago