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EM : Show us your EM Pinball Machines!

By Rat_Tomago

6 years ago

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#8445 2 years ago

A few works in progress.. One being stripped and repainted and minor tweaking still on J.K.

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#8447 2 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Teasing me with Bally Grand Tour again I see. I can't wait to see how the game turns out.

Actually I'm going to be working on it today. Going to the store this morning after breakfast to get red and blue paint chips and work on the stencils (verifying that the new stencils match the old artwork) so I can finish stripping the cabinet and get it in primer.

#8456 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Can't wait to see what Grand Tour looks like when it is done. I am happy to finally see more of these early/mid 60's Bally games brought back to life and preserved. Seems like they are finally gathering the steam they deserve.

Posted a few shots in the resto thread, done with making the stencil today. Now I can strip off the last of the old paint, fix a few bumps and bruises and hit it with some primer. I know they did not come primered, but it will look better and reduce some imperfections.

It won't look 100% detail new when I'm done as I don't have skill set and mentality (I favor functionality over making show queens, you wont see me detailing relays) but I think it will look pretty sharp when complete and work 100% as intended. Even going to try my hand touching up the backglass and sealing as I have a pretty good eye at color matching.

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#8581 2 years ago

Back from the dead today

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#8585 2 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

When I saw Ct., I was thinking Kick Off which is one
(actually I have 2) that I have. To me, it's a pretty
underrated machine.. Nice player.. (T)

There is actually a Kickoff for sale in NY, I was tempted to buy it just to work through the problems this one had.

No need now, I think I got it mostly sorted out and will be starting on cosmetics after another day or two.

It is a very fun game to play!

#8626 2 years ago

Inside of Lucky Hand, keys were in lower cabinet

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#8627 2 years ago

Back of Ship Ahoy.

This is the one I was excited about getting and of course it is being cranky. Cleaned a bunch of contacts, found some maladjusted relays, voltages are good... and no response when coined up. Going to have to obtain a wiring diagram and check the start sequence to figure out what is going on..

I think Gottliebs just don't like me. Williams, Bally, Chicago Coin? No problem, can bring them back from the dead in an hour.

Gottlieb? They just snicker at my EM kungfu skills. Evil.

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#8629 2 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Make sure that ball in play and wow stepper units don't have frozen grease. Pretty common on that era.

First thing I checked, one was a little bound up. Small shot of PB Blaster and its working fine now. Need to look close at a few things before proceeding..

#8635 2 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Make sure that ball in play and wow stepper units don't have frozen grease. Pretty common on that era.

Ship Ahoy is fixed and 100%!

Maybe my Gottlieb EM Kungfu not so bad.

Game is a riot to play!

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#8727 2 years ago

A lot of pushing stuff around today.. Grand Tour, Knockout and Heat Wave are all in the other garage being worked on..

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#8847 2 years ago
Quoted from Gerry:

My williams EXPO has the same thing going on...
i LIKE brutaly hard games but i think the post is fine
I'm glad its there on EXPO

I picked up a Williams Touchdown 2-3 weeks ago and have it up and running 100% aside from a missing knocker which is on the way.. hands down my favorite pin at the moment but the out lanes are brutal, brutal magnets for the ball during play. I found a picture online showing one TD pin with posts added there and now I'm wondering if it was a factory suggestion after seeing the Cosmos bulletin.

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#8850 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Oops, you just edited the post. The post placement was actually not a bulletin but in the official manual, and the games (usually) had little dimples in the playfield to show the different positions rather than operators screwing it in to "normal" wood.

Yes, I realized I had referenced the wrong game.

Makes me want to pickup a TD manual now and see if there is any post information.

#8853 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Unfortunately Williams games did not come with a manual until the 70's as far as I know.

I have a few Williams manuals from the 60's and have seen a Touchdown manual for sale. I think 66 or 67 might have been the first years, I know '64 is a no go as I was looking for one for my Heatwave.

The '68 Daffie manual I'm looking at now clearly list play field conservative and liberal positions of posts.

#8854 2 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Even if they did suggest it though, the last thing I would suggest today would be screwing screws in new spots into the playfield! Drops value, both collector and monetary. Your game, though, of course. Just a warning.

If its a factory suggestion then I'm all good with it, if not I'll leave it be.

It would make the game more fun *if* there was a post there like the game pictured. The opening for the outlane is a gaping maw that sucks in any ball in the vicinity.

Value.. is subjective. The game has been repainted, the backglass a bit of a shambles and the machine actually started to catch fire while I was at the sellers house and it had been robbed of parts for good measure.

I have it running 100% again, replaced the bulk of the missing parts and some time in the future going to repaint the old girl so it looks something like it shipped from the factory but doubt it will have much collector value.

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#8867 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballbrian:

Gdonovon,hey like your machine,i think your back glass art is better than mine.

Its been doctored... badly. I'm going to scrape some of the "work" off and start fresh in spots.

#8880 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Never played this one, and I hear it's a good player.

Love the backglass, hilarious! I'm tempted to buy the one in NY that is for sale just on that alone.

#8881 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

My buddy presqueisle gave me a sweet deal on this Dancing Lady project. I'm looking forward to putting some time on it. Love those jeweled posts.

That is one beautiful looking pin, a piece of art in itself.

#8883 2 years ago
Quoted from Gerry:

Which one in NY ?

There is a Bally Little Joe listed for sale.

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#8989 2 years ago
Quoted from KHL:

A little something followed me home this evening...

I almost purchased one of those a few months ago, the head was broke but fixable.

Just missed it by an hour.

Been looking for a car themed EM for the shop.

#8990 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

You have a Paul Bunyan!? I don't see many Pinsiders here with that game except for Ryan Claytor and myself.

The gameplay doesn't look that exciting to me but has to be about the sweetest backglass art I have seen yet.

#9036 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

What do you consider more exciting gameplay and why?
Paul Bunyan has a lot of non-stop action with the flippers at bottom, middle and top.

Hard to say, the top area looks to be a wasted opportunity though.

Personal preference. Some people like "card game" based pins and they do nothing for me for some reason.

#9086 2 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Bally chimes are even better. .

I have 2 70's Ballys with chimes here, both sound... poor. Even after going through both boxes.

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#9128 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Looks good. Kickoff was my favorite too for a long time. It was set up with just the right threshold for added balls. Every time I played it, it felt like I was flying by the seat of my pants. You really had to fight for it. Earning another ball was like going into overtime (appropriately). Just trying to stay alive long enough to get a good score. Breaking 4000 was really something.
I see someone added a couple posts protecting the outlanes. I have seen that before on this title. They are brutal without them. Which to me is part of the frustrating fun but you may like to keep them.

I have an unmolested Touchdown (win a credit version) and the outlanes are brutal but part of the attraction, I have broken 5000 a few times but its tough and I like my games with some rake to them so it plays fast.

#9133 2 years ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

I'm pretty excited about a recent pick-up I made,
a 1965 Bally Sheba! I think she'll look great next to my 1964 Bally Hay-Ride, with art by the same mind-bogglingly talented Bally mystery artist:

That is a sweet looking table!

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#9182 2 years ago

I was finally able to hit the special in Domino, alas it was while draining the last ball in the right outlane.

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#9191 2 years ago
Quoted from Phillips88:

Picked this up today. Wasn't really looking for one, but couldn't pass up on the price. Happy that I did because it turned out really nice after cleaning it up and it's a fun player. Hundred point bell sounds awesome when his for 500 points!

I picked up one last weekend, the bells are awesome!

Your looks fantastic!

#9195 2 years ago
Quoted from spinal:

Noticed this Add-A-Ball version on eBay (Play Mates) has a very different playfield. Anyone know about gameplay differences?
ebay.com link » Like

Some info here (click on the flyer)


In Domino you advance the pieces one at a time via upper roll overs if lighted, the 2 kick out holes, the roto target (you have to hit the matching domino or the star of course) and the 6 alternating targets in the lower playfield.

Making it to the final domino lights the 4 special locations and if you hit them win a game credit and knocker for your trouble.

I did it tonight after playing all week, it was on ball 5 but I finally lit the special and collected on the right outlane to win a free credit.

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#9210 2 years ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

I guess, technically, if 40 ppl upvoted, we'd still be alright.

44 would be better

#9219 2 years ago

Domino is a work in progress.. but getting there..

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#9221 2 years ago
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:

You can print out a set of instruction and replay cards at this site-

The instruction card actually is from Inkochnito and the mask from PBR

The credit/score card is a scan, adjustment and reprint of the one that was there, I liked it so much I put it back in a manner of speaking.

#9222 2 years ago

A long project comes to its conclusion tonight and is in the line up.

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#9225 2 years ago
Quoted from bek1966:

Great game. Congrats and enjoy!

Thanks, while it was apart I high tapped it as well and it has more spunk than usual.

Really helps pop the ball up into the upper section of the play field.

#9228 2 years ago

Some colored LED in my Heat Wave- The bonus lights now match the back glass thermometer colors, red special at the top is a flashing bright blinker from Comet and the swinging green targets have green LED to match.

Poppers have non-ghosting LED from Comet for durability reasons. Everything else is incandescent 47's.

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#9230 2 years ago
Quoted from electricsquirrel:

This may sound like a stupid question, but what is ghosting?

On some machines (not all are EM) when the lamps are off they will flash when some relays in the game snap on and off. This is called "ghosting" and if my memory is correct caused by the collapsing of magnetic fields due to the relays popping on and off, there will be a surge of electricity created which will cause the LED's to flash for a brief moment.

I think non-ghosting LED's have a capacitor built into them which suppresses the issue.

#9232 2 years ago
Quoted from ryan1234:

On EMs ghosting should not be an issue.

EM's are notorious for it being an issue, I have to be careful where I place ghosting and non-ghosting LED's in my machines. Ones that are on all the time are a non-issue (back glass, coin slots, some inserts) but anything that comes on and off during play is susceptible to it. Traces are spotless, first thing I do when machine is purchased is clean all traces and relays, contacts, etc.

#9237 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I acquired an EM with LEDs installed and must say I shared the same experience. The subtle flickering made me feel a little weird.

Not all LED's flicker.

All the ones I have purchased from Comet have no issues, however I did buy a machine that had some cheap ones installed and they had a distinct flicker too them.

#9243 2 years ago

Any help?

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#9249 2 years ago

Finishing up another project ('71 Klondike) and going to be for sale most likely... now to get Grand Tour done..

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#9254 2 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

I really like how Gottlieb, for a short time, had the pricing and score cards sunken into the apron and gently illuminated with a bulb towards the bottom. Completely unnecessary, but it adds such a refined touch, I wish they continued it on more games.
Honestly, that'd be a nice feature to bring back on pinball machines. I know no one ever reads the score cards, but people go through so much effort to produce custom ones, it'd be nice to actually be able to see them on new games in a dark arcade/bar/gameroom.

Chicago Coin did something similar, at least for the ball count and game over.

Not as well done but a nice touch which stands out and it would be nice to see again.

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#9260 2 years ago

The newest addition to the collection..

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#9263 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

It's a fun game. Your backglass and center plastic both look to be in great condition. That's rare on this title.

It is a fun game- Its fairly speedy and you keep hammering away hoping to beat the dealer! My wife likes it which is something as she hates most 2 inch flipper games.

Plastics are in good shape and the back glass is very nice with some minor peel here and there. I spent about 2 hours touching up the problem areas and hitting it with triple thick when I was finished. The only area I did NOT touch was the fellow in the center with the red shirt. Typical massive red peel which you can get an idea of looking at the cuff of his shirt.

Would look like hell if I tried to brush it.

I want to give the triple thick a few days to setup proper and try masking and air brushing the area red and see how it comes out. I have a Domino I'm working on too, excited to see how it is going to come out, it needed a lot of work but less than the one already on the machine.

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#9264 2 years ago

Here is the Domino glass if anyone is interested in how it came out, wish I took a before shot. It needed several hours of work! I'm going to make a clear overlay decal for the red letters "DOMINO" and see how that works out.

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#9265 2 years ago

Newest project... this one has a tough road to go.

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#9269 2 years ago
Quoted from klr650:

I just read Caucasian2step's review of Hootenanny. Wow, that was harsh!

I find it best to take some ratings with a a grain of salt.

Full House and Domino both have mediocre ratings and yet I enjoy playing both very much.

#9271 2 years ago
Quoted from monsonb:

Agreed. I have both of these machines, and I really enjoy playing them. I have read many comments on Pinside that indicate that Domino is "underrated".
I bought a Full House project machine just so I could have something to work on. Once I got it going, I realized it was a crackerjack to play, and I did my best to restore the whole machine. I love having it in the lineup.

Domino sizzles with a standard amount of rake IMHO (down in the front, all the way up in the rear) and yellow dot coils. Once the ball gets down in the lower play area (which does not take long) the action factor cranks up in a big way trying to get it back up field or hitting the side targets. I have only been able to light the special 2 or 3 times at best.

I have owned both Klondike and Full House (both slot reel games) and hands down Full House is the better title. Klondike is positively boring in comparison to Full House. FH has some speed going for it that Klondike lacks and a certain "play it again factor" that is missing on Klondike. Trying to beat the dealers hand is far more exciting in FH than picking off a random bonus in Klondike.

#9296 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Surf Side is a great game.

Another one that has caught my eye the last few months, love the art package. The backglass has to be one of the best of the EM era right up there with Paul Bunyan

#9297 2 years ago


Been speeding around like a madman all morning and before taking a nap decided to run off another game on Domino. Been averaging around 4000 points per game with a high score of 8002 but I must have hit the upper kick holes 10 times this game and posted a new best of 9071! Closing in on that number one spot!

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#9303 2 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

9071 points is a great game. Glad to hear about it.

Thank you!

I took an interest in Domino as there was one for sale several hours away in PA and I checked out some Youtube videos. The seller and I could never come to terms (he was unwilling to budge on the price even though it would cost me literately 100's of $$$ to get there and back, tolls and gas through the NE/NY/NJ is brutal) When I did have some business down in that general area and could justify the cost he was not home for a week! Machine was worn and slightly overpriced and it is just as well..

One popped up in Maine a few weeks ago and now its here.. Had to go through it of course and one of the local pin owners had a backglass in better shape which I touched up and sealed.. It is a fine playing pin that sounds gorgeous. Still have some cabinet touch up I'm working on time to time and missing a plastic but largely its done.

#9359 2 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Considering how mushroomed (that I just noticed today) the plunger is,
the playfield's very decent. Those trapped doors could very possibly make this
machine an interesting player..

Looks like a fun pin! One day I too will own a Williams wood rail.

#9361 2 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

I'm also thinking it may be an enjoyful pin. 1 of (I believe) only 3 woodrail
Williams pins that I have, but looks maybe to be the one mostly not seen..
Here's another Head that I moved today. I had forgotten how heavy (for a head)
this one is..

I have two 4 player Gottliebs I'm working on, the head units are insanely heavy!

#9379 2 years ago

Bus Stop is functional!

Ordering elastics, a few coils and some other odds and ends this morning from PBR..

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#9381 2 years ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Do you plan on keeping those metal posts
to the sides of the blue pop bumpers,
as they are not original standard parts of the PF layout.
Might give it more action around the pops
but again not as intended by designer.
Guess it may depend on how it plays and
how much damage to the playfield the screw holes made.
Bus Stop definitely has neat art package and layout otherwize.
A game one does not see too often,
I miss mine, now at the PPM.
The head's repaint job looks good, but how are the CAB sides repaint theme?
And what are those rubber posts to the sides of the left and right mushroom bumpers?
Are those plunger shooter rod tips re-purposed for a mini post?

Still working on all those issues, machine finally came lurching to life this morning around 7:15AM when I finally tracked down the continuous scoring motor running issue. Then found that someone had taken apart the left bonus wheel and reassembled it wrong and fixed that. Fixed a bunch of lamp sockets. Main board pulled out and gone through the other day while hunting down issues.

Metal posts are going away but PF already has holes! Might installed small posts with no elastics across as "repair" for now.

Ideally will repaint unit in original colors and do away with greek diner theme.

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#9393 2 years ago

Not something you see every day.

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#9404 2 years ago
Quoted from embryonjohn:

Somebody just scored a very nice Darts and it wasn't me.

"Working" is a relative term.

I had to examine the unit while there to find out why there was no sound, the seller was surprised (or good actor, take your pick) to find out there were bells in the unit. Both coils and plungers were melted down into a pile of goo. The list of parts being ordered from PBR is growing.. The playfield, cabinet and BG are in good condition (the playfield in particular) that I paid the man what he wanted for it.

#9406 2 years ago

Big Ben chimes once more...

The last of a trio of machines brought home last Saturday woke from its slumber this morning.. and in surprisingly good condition. Pulled the main board this morning, cleaned, lubed and adjusted everything and went through all the scoring reels. Shortly after the machine was up and running! From there did some meatball surgery to the ball count unit (which is a mess but at least working now) and cleaned all the stepper units. Popped out, cleaned and leveled a bunch of inserts. Changed out a bunch of bulbs. Pulled all the plastics and posts, compounded out the playfield (which had mold on it) and gave it a nice coat of wax and installed new elastics. Polished the plastics and posts. Found that the switches for slingshots were falling apart, repaired. Adjusted the drop targets. Scrubbed the "gear" domes for the poppers.

Not a bad game. With new elastics and waxed playfield far more entertaining then when I first started this morning. Give it a few weeks for a fair shake. Need to work on Star Action next.. once parts from PBR show up I'll be on Bus Stop, Dart and Orbit again.


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#9409 2 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

I would call that a good mornings work Gary-nicely done.

Thank you! Still a little work to do. The scoring motor seem slow and makes a grinding noise which makes all the long chime sequences slow as well. I'm going to swap out a motor from one of my other machines to diag the problem. Lubricating the motor did not seem to make much difference and the cam set moves freely.

#9411 2 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

There is a 'hidden' lube point on those score motors Gary under the motor frame not normally accessed unless the motor is removed.

I'll pull today to examine- Are you talking about the "felt hole" in the area of the axle?

#9412 2 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

There is a 'hidden' lube point on those score motors Gary under the motor frame not normally accessed unless the motor is removed.

I pulled the motor this morning and found the second lube point.

Looking everything over well I don't think the motor is the issue. Coil looks very good, everything spins freely and the bushings are in great shape. Where I think the problem lies is in the switch stacks. I think someone had one or two apart in the past and they seem to have excessive pressure on them which is making the motor work too hard, I think a spacer or two was left out.

#9414 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I have buddy who recently picked up a "Space Mission". It's motor was also very slow. The eventual remedy was rebuilding it using a kit available through the Pinball Resource. It works fine now.

I may end up going that route or swapping the motor out. Tried loosening up all the screws holding down the contacts till they were quite light, didn't seem to make any difference.

Think I'll rob the Star Action for its motor assembly and see what we see, doesn't take long.

#9415 2 years ago

Robbing the Star Action's motor assembly fixed the problem! Big Ben zips right along now.

#9423 2 years ago

Look what followed me home today!

Stripped the playfield, compounded it out, touched up the black areas with paint stick, nice coating of paste wax, polished the plastics, cleaned underside of inserts, replaced all the bulbs, cleaned the posts, fixed some coil stops, cleaned and adjusted some relays, cleaned scoring reels, polished stepper contacts and lubed & adjusted steppers, cleaned some roll over switches, got the match unit working (has effect on bonuses) found some bad contacts and repaired, rebuilt the chime unit so it doesn't clank-clank-clank.

Only problem I can find now is the player 1 and 2 lamps, ball count lamps and "one or two can play" lamps will randomly flash like there is a bad connection somewhere and I have to track it down. No rhyme or reason. Will be fine for a few games and then will flicker when you shoot a ball or hit a popper. Can't isolate it yet but will.

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#9430 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

You got it bad. Sounds like you have the wife behind you so that's a big plus!

I just like to move along prompt so we can get to playing as soon as possible.

My wife is a jewel and we have lots of fun together!

#9432 2 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Only problem I can find now is the player 1 and 2 lamps, ball count lamps and "one or two can play" lamps will randomly flash like there is a bad connection somewhere and I have to track it down. No rhyme or reason. Will be fine for a few games and then will flicker when you shoot a ball or hit a popper. Can't isolate it yet but will.


#9439 2 years ago

The garage where the repairs happen is being taken over! I'm being overrun!

Full House is 100%
Olympic Hockey the puck on the backglass gets stuck, humidity I think.
Darts is pretty much done aside from sealing the backglass
Star Action needs to be gone through 100%, scoring issues and add a ball feature not working.
Bus Stop mostly working, playfield touch up, reel cleaning and some contact cleaning needed on the bonus discs.
Space Odyssey was working 100% and decided it does not want to run two player tonight.
Orbit works 100% but won't play 2 or 4 player, long term project to get working correct.
Spirit of '76 working 100%, have to install new green insert and sand blast and paint legs.

Always something to do..

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#9503 2 years ago

Finished our Space Odyssey this morning- Yesterday I pulled the back glass, touched up a bunch of white, blue, black areas and some minor red and green spots. The reds are pretty faded so there isn't much you can do there and the green capsule looked tough enough I put green LED's behind it to lessen the visual blow. 3 heavy coats of triple thick and it was back in place..

This morning finally found the cause of player 2 randomly not always cuing up from the start button, turned out to be a slightly sticky coin 2 latch relay. A minor tweak with a pair of needle nose pliers and it was working 100%. Fun game, my wife and I like playing it and it is going in the long term line up this week.


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#9522 2 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

7 days and no new postings? For sure we have more pics to share.


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#9529 2 years ago
Quoted from Grizlyrig:

Hey, I know that one,Bally Bazaar. Played it in NH on vacation. Good times.

I wonder if it is the same one!

#9563 2 years ago

Bally Bazaar- Cleaned and waxed the playfield, replaced all the bulbs, repaired one of the mushroom switches, replaced burned up zipper flipper release coil, new flipper bats and elastics, new ball, cleaned the scoring reels, fixed a fussy light socket or two, removed a ton of grease off the zipper flipper mech so it now works, fixed some half assed wiring and adjusted 2-3 relays.

Now that it is functioning well (mostly) I have to pull the boards and go through everything to make it 100%

Working on stripping the blue paint off, original is still underneath and doesn't look like in bad shape.

This is a REALLY fun game, definitely going in the long term line up. I'm really starting to take a shine to these mid-60's Ballys.

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#9565 2 years ago

Newest addition to my EM room-o-games, my first scratch built proton pack. Need to wire it up off a transformer so it goes on with the neon lights

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#9567 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I plead total ignorance here. Please explain.

I'm not afraid of no ghost!

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#9573 2 years ago

Finally got Star Action working 100%

Wife and I are starting to take a shine to it now that its sorted out.

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#9574 2 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Since this ones in pretty decent shape and also have heard that it's
a decent player, I someday plan on having this one set up..

Played one, it really is a fun player.

One game bell isn't bad, all those roll overs make the reels chatter like crazy and make their own music.

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#9610 2 years ago

My second highest score!

Has some LED for backbox lighting (regular blinking incandescent for title) and bright LED for score reels which are terribly dark with normal 44 bulbs.

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#9613 2 years ago
Quoted from Ballypin:

Man, so glad you are enjoying Bazaar. I thought I wanted one in the worst way and I almost bought it twice this summer but other games kept coming along and made me keep passing. I just love the backglass and yellow reels but the playfield art and layout just doesn't seal the deal for me. If one comes up closer to me in decent shape and decent price then all bets are off. Thanks for sharing the pics.

I'm really loving some of the asymmetrical setups of the 60's Bally pins, love Bazaar! Can't wait to get it painted and tuned up 100%

Grand Tour is growing on me too, Bus Stop I'm only so-so on but it has a more traditional symmetrical layout.

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#9667 2 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I find that happens with some games. When you first get it and are just batting the ball around you may have some stellar scores. Once you learn the game a bit and are focused on trying to achieve certain goals the scores can drop. Beginners may be more focused on just keeping the ball in play rather than making specific shots. It seems counterintuitive but can sometimes result in a better game.

Matches my theory about how I play vs my wife.

1) She takes all the shots and will in general beat me half the time.

2) I'm a "high risk, high reward" shooter and when I'm cooking will bury her by a factor of 5x-10x when I'm on fire.

Our last game of Moon Shot she had around a 1500 score, I rolled the reels to 105,371.

#9673 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Wow, does she still want to "compete" with you?

She is very good about it as she knows there is a good chance to beat me, usually by a small margin though.

Just when I beat her its usually a rout.

High Risk/High Reward.

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#9767 2 years ago

Finally got around to changing up the line up- Hi Flyer is out and for sale, Touchdown in the workshop for cabinet repaint and Space Odyssey and Star Action are in! My wife can kick ass on Star Action, her new favorite.


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#9769 2 years ago
Quoted from fingersport:

Nice lineup Gary. I love the art work on the Chicago Coin "Moon ?" Kinda looks like Bally art from that time period. If you have the time post some close up pictures of the backglass and the playfield. I don't think I have ever seen this game. Thanks. Don

Moon Shot artwork was by Christian Marche and it is a really fun game.

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#9773 2 years ago
Quoted from pinzrfun:

Very nice looking game! Never seen that one before.

Two player version has different back glass art and playfield colors!


It is a solid effort by Chicago Coin and goes toe to toe with many other titles from this era in my opinion. Tough game with high rewards if you know how to play the table (rack up the bonus and collect via center lanes, harder than it looks) and game play gets very exciting when the ball is trapped "down in the pocket" as you try to boost it out with those 2" flippers.

If I had a complaint the bells are a little weak, I should look to see if there is worn bushings.

On reflection, the 50's and 60's were the high water mark for Chicago Coin, once the 70's picked up speed they seemed to head downhill as far as pinball goes. The '74 Hi-Flyer I have is ok and very similar to the Williams Star Action (2 upper lanes, 4 drop targets, 2 return lanes, 3 bumpers) with a spinner instead of a disc with 2 posts.. Great "wood block" triple chimes too.. from what I have been reading they got cheap after that.

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#9774 2 years ago

Not a lot of difference between the two.

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#9778 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

What's the "CC" game?


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#9780 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Ah, I should have known. Vic Camp once had one that I saw and played.
That was a long time ago though.
One main difference between that game and "Triple Action" is that it has return lanes.

Minor difference, overall the same pf.

Enough so my wife agreed to let it go for Star Action.

#9782 2 years ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

Your just going to have build on your house or buy a larger one!
Just a question do find working on Chicago Coin's machines hard? I have come across some repairmen who will not work on them.

Very easy and the two I have here really do give me the least amount of trouble.

The most PITA? Gottlieb.

#9786 2 years ago
Quoted from Darcy:

It is too late, now.

Is what it is. Both almost caused me to rip out what little of my hair is left.

The two Gottlieb left in my collection are largely reliable.. mostly. Domino has been pretty good since put in the line, though it seems to have an appetite for 47's for some reason down in the slingshots.

On the Chicago Coin reliability I can only speak for machines made from 1969-1974, the later ones look like they might have gotten cheap so can't say.

Doorbell chimes to save money? That is scraping the barrel.

#9810 2 years ago

Practically in my backyard, so how could I resist?

Going to need some stout help.

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#9867 1 year ago

Newest addition to the game room.. 1958 Double Action.

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#9870 1 year ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Now that I think about it, I don't think I have one
Gottlieb 2 Player Woodrail. Nice colorful game!

My first woodrail game not counting Williams Darts which is a bit of a hybrid.

#9875 1 year ago

Speaking of the game room... shuffling around and getting ready for the cold winter months to arrive.

If I sell Ship Ahoy, I think I can slip in Grand Tour (not stenciled yet) and Bazaar too.

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#9878 1 year ago
Quoted from SirScott:

You had me at "sell Ship Ahoy."

It is the one that is getting played least so.. time to go.

Star Action from Colson is getting pounded daily, my wife and son are having a battle to see who can hold the top spot. Space Odyssey getting a good work out as well. Ding Dong, Moon Shot and Night Rider all see regular usage. Domino is the first machine I turn on. Heat Wave isn't seeing much use but that is the first one that I have completed and painted so not going anywhere just yet.

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#9881 1 year ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

Just do what a neighbor did here build another 2 car garage! I think you need another Big Ben.

Already built this... it is full of cars... and a few pins under repair. Lucky Strike and Darts are already in the game room even though LS isn't a 100% yet. Need to tinker around with the spares relay bank, I think one or two are sticking. Fun game though, same for Darts. Played several rounds last night and was able to light the special and collect on the gobble hole.

Bus Stop going too I think along with Ship Ahoy, game play just not my cup of tea for some reason.

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#9883 1 year ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

Keep your Moon Shot pecos is the only one that I know who has that one also and I have only seen one for sale on CL in the southwest desert somewhere. We just had 6 tornados the other day and one they showed it had flattened a garage.

We love Moon Shot, not going anywhere! Awesome game. My wife almost beat my high score this weekend, missed it by 100 points!

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#10002 1 year ago

"There are 9993 posts in topic. You are on page 201 of 201."

Bring it on!!

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#10023 1 year ago

She is a strange beast but I'm starting to get the gist of how it works. Had only a half day at work today and after outfitting Colson's favorite pin back with LED's I went to work on this one. Replaced some broken lane guides, made a new flipper link (old one was beat to death due to excessive tension on the return spring) cleaned and adjusted a few relays, adjusted all the poppers, changed out some elastics, did some reel cleaning, found out why some items were not scoring as they should, worked on stepper discs, etc.

Now it will play a one player or two player game, going from player to player correct and ending when it should while keeping track of the correct number of balls!

Game is rather perky now as far as the action goes, brutal on the outside lanes and gobble hole if you are careless.

Now that I have confirmed all is working as it should need to pull the main board and do a through cleaning and adjustment of everything. Have a new set of skirts for poppers which need to be installed too.


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#10027 1 year ago
Quoted from illawarra92:

living in australia aab pins are rare, this hearts and spades arrived this morning.

On my wishlist after seeing a video of gameplay a few months ago, looks like a very fun game!

#10030 1 year ago
Quoted from fingersport:

I have the 1 player version of Double Action. Its Miss Annabelle. Miss Annabelle has a beautiful backglass with backglass (fan) animation that awards replays for completion of the fan. The game layout is the same but I think scoring is a little different. The Miss Annabelle sitting in my office is the first pinball machine I ever played.

I think the scoring is a touch different too looking at the playfields.

The back glass on Double Action doesn't bother me at all, it is different and has a carnival feel to it as best I can describe.

#10032 1 year ago

More time in Double Action- Cleaned up both bonus units well, changed some bulbs. Plays real solid now and able to extend out my score almost by double!

The gobble hole is indeed your friend and enemy. If you can pair up the bonus lights sink the gobble hole and repeat for big scoring. You get the big score (Gobble is 100 + 100 x indicated bonus value) but have short games of course! Or do it the long way by running up the bonus to 40 or 50 and just collecting on the single bonus alone.

#10033 1 year ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

More time in Double Action- Cleaned up both bonus units well, changed some bulbs. Plays real solid now and able to extend out my score almost by double!

Another Double Action update..

Pulled the main board and found all sort of funkiness! Kick switch had been bypassed, one of the fuses bypassed because it was bad. Cleaned and adjusted all contacts, replaced the fuse holder, fixed the kick switch, replaced the long burned out arch bulbs. Then the fun really started! Game would not start as it would trip the tilt relay even though both relay switches were clean. And then it just fixed itself after fiddling with the relay bank for five minutes. Several games were played and then I noticed the the red bonus collect was a little over zealous in paying out bonuses.. near as I can figure the relay was hanging up after being cleaned.. Adjusted the one point rebound switches which were all way out in the weeds.

Game seems pretty solid at this point, only remaining issues seen to be score reel related. Every once in awhile they will skip a digit when scoring and every once in awhile will not reset proper on a new game start. Time to take apart the reels and get them sorted...


#10039 1 year ago

Spent a few hours stripping the playfield and cleaning, all new bulbs and elastics and replaced all the thumper skirts which were in tough shape.

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#10047 1 year ago

Seems like I'm mostly done- Gone through all the reels and relays in back box, tweaked flipper operation, worked on some inserts, populated the back box lighting with some orphan colored LED's and incandescent bulbs I had kicking around and buttoned it all back together.

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#10061 1 year ago

Woo! My new color laser printer came in today! Whipped up red instruction cards post haste for Double Action!

There is water slide decals in my near future!

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#10114 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Playing a few games on our 1964 Williams PALOOKA before it goes up for sale or trade. Great presence, and fun gameplay with no technical issues but I'm looking for a woodrail or maybe a classic wedgehead to take it's spot someday. Thanks to O-din for giving us the chance to own and enjoy this game!
Have a Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year all.

There was one for sale out here in CT a few months ago, sold quick and vanished without trace.

#10124 1 year ago
Quoted from DropTarget:

Vanished to your garage?

No sir, I was not quick enough.

Looks like a cool title.

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#10245 1 year ago

Current line up.

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#10254 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

Nice variety!

Thank you!

I still have to paint Touchdown, restore the cabinet for Bazzar and finish Grand Tour.

That is why I decided to sell Darts (Lucky Strike and Bust Stop sold this weekend past) I only have so much space.. you know how it goes.. I like Darts but it is not getting played.

#10263 1 year ago
Quoted from 1974DeltaQueen:

Funny thing is I will be there to see it This Saturday morning

Free to play all of them if you have the time!

#10265 1 year ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

How’s the replacement thermometer I made for Heat Wave holding up?

To be honest, have not had time to pull the machine out and replace it yet! Nor the other 2 machines that need to be done.

#10267 1 year ago

Because it was time to do something about this hot mess

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#10296 1 year ago

My Touchdown is showing considerable improvement.

Going to let the green set till next weekend and then mask off and paint the blue layer.

An original shown for reference.


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#10326 1 year ago

This weeks handiwork, my technique is getting better.

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#10352 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

I'm surprised none of the commenters said anything about Ray using the WD-40!

There are better products for rusty locks than Water Displacement formula #40

#10353 1 year ago

Shout out to dr_nybble, I finally got to use one of the steel tapes he sold me for Touchdown.

Painted it with some green paint and rather than rivet a "diamond" like the original I downloaded some football clipart, sized it, printed on some thick photo paper and used some double sided tape to attach. The one pictured is a 1" wide football and I replaced it with a 3/4" one. It looks rather good and ready to go back in the lineup.


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#10438 1 year ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Big Ben and TZ were taken to a 50's dance last night. Was dark, so was hard to get good pics, but this one is the best. Some good costumes worn.

Is that the Big Ben I trucked down?

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#10749 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Ron, this is one of my favorite pieces of your work. That custom racer (ACTUALLY SPINNING-OUT!) looks so bone-stock it's fantastic. Tremendous work.

Outstanding work! Thanks for pointing it out, I thought my memory was off or it was another variant of the playfield when I saw it first.

2 months later
#11014 1 year ago

Hi everyone!

Been a few months since I have done anything pin related aside from minor repairs; since I have gone back to work in the healthcare field my time has been very limited! I'm helping one of my best friends get his father's facility back on track, he is going over the books and contracts getting finances in order while I'm doing what I do best running maintenance, laundry and housekeeping and getting the building back up to snuff.

One thing we do for our residents and staff is throw a BBQ party outdoors every month which is attended by a local DJ who does trivia and hands out prizes. Everyone has a great time and I thought I'd step things up for the next one which is a staff car show to go along with the cookout! We have about 6-7 people with muscle cars and sports cars which will be on display during the cookout.

So how do you top that? Bring a pin along of course! I dusted off Big Star which had been sitting in the corner of my shop for several months but I had gone through it so it was functioning 100%. I had planned on doing a re-theme but have just been too busy. Cleaned and waxed the playfield, tuned up a few minor issues and I'm planning on painting the legs this week. She has had a hard life (I actually glued the cabinet back together a few months ago) so I'm not concerned if she picks up a few new scratches. If it turns out to be as popular as I think it will be, might become a fixture in our recreation dept. Next cook out is the 25th! I'll take pictures and post when it happens.


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#11022 1 year ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I was wondering what happened to you. I guess you didn’t make Pintastic either.

Helping one of my best friends get this grand old lady back on her feet, hard to say no. I was director for 4 years before stepping down, I did not see eye to eye with former management at the time who seemed more interested in... not addressing issues I had brought to their attention.

They are all gone now, funny that. Bill comes due sooner or later.

She is coming along just fine, firing on all cylinders now.

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#11023 1 year ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

Gary great that you could share your Big Star pin and bring back some memories of people playing one.
Just saw a Super Star with a crazy price of $1,000. Funny thing is I tried to buy one for $350.00 that worked in Illinois last year.

Depending on the response, I might bring two for the next BBQ.

#11025 1 year ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

What kind of property is that?

Former mansion from the late 1800's, turned nursing home in 1954, 60 bed wing added to right side in 1994. Currently 30 bed long term care, 30 bed short term care. Knees, hips, respite and hospice, that sort of thing. Fully staffed physical therapy department.

#11027 1 year ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

I thought it might be something like that. You were director of property services or management of some sort?

Director of Environmental Services.


#11029 1 year ago
Quoted from JethroP:

Picked this up Friday. Drove 3-1/2 hours to Cleveland suburb to get it (from another Pinsider). Took me 3 days to get it working. Had all kinds of issues, undisclosed. Pretty disappointing to drive that far to get something not as described. Got it home and fixed all the sloppy work the previous owner had done to it. But it's working now and looks ok. Going to attempt some touch up on the backglass while I look for a better one. Happy to have a Teacher's Pet. My mother (retired) and daughter are teachers!

Teacher's Pet looks like a title that is fun to play, hopefully some day I'll get a chance to play one.

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#11062 1 year ago

Well as you know I was going to bring a pin into work for our party, and things were going well for about an hour when it decided to cease functioning and pop a fuse for good measure.

Figures, been playing it for weeks out in the garage and it was functioning flawless. Not sure what happened, our finance officer was playing and suddenly the lights went out which dropped out the game and came back on and it reset but after reset would power down again. After I wiggled some relays and fuses it decided to check out altogether.


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#11087 1 year ago

The next three to go, wife and I are downsizing..

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#11091 1 year ago
Quoted from DropTarget:

Don't tell me that you're going to put a car in BOTH garages!

Nah, just looking at it from a available time and play perspective.

As in how much time to I have for tinkering with them and which do we play the least?

Space Odyssey, Moon Shot, Night Rider and Olympic Hockey get played the most while Domino, Star Action, Ding Dong and Touchdown round out the single players. Wife doesn't like Double Action for some reason (I find it fun) and Sky Divers and Heat Wave just seem neglected. Be nice to finally paint and setup Grand Tour and Bazaar in the game room.

#11097 1 year ago
Quoted from Budman:

I thought pins in a garage was “No no” due to temperature change.

Heat and ac in mine

#11099 1 year ago
Quoted from mark532011:

Well, lesson learned - next year bring 2 pins, just in case!

Tracked the problem down to the bridge rectifier. Fails continuity test and when I unplug the hot lead short goes away.

Will verify with a used one in the morning.

#11100 1 year ago

Back in action!

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#11101 1 year ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Not mine, but saw and played it today at CAEX in San Jose.
Bally Six Sticks in primo condition played very well also.
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Pretty awesome, first time I have seen one "in the field" so to speak.

#11102 1 year ago

One of our lovely staff poses with the machine which currently is hanging out in our physical therapy dept.

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#11152 1 year ago
Quoted from Meatneck:

I got 2nd place EM class at 2018 rocky mountain pinball showdown
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I love our Night Rider but I think it is winning contest for fussiest machine in our collection this year.

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#11316 10 months ago
Quoted from cp1610:

Got my 1st and 2nd em Hokus Pokus supposedly works and Night Rider EM well it looks to be complete but needs a back-glass and a playfeild. Its got bad planking and paint falling off just looking at it was told its a parts box this i don't believe unless it all chewed up inside.

Our Night Rider EM is one of our favorite games, on the "do not sell" list.

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#11413 7 months ago
Quoted from Skidave:

Yeah, I said that after pin number 2
My wife has quite a few handbags, shoes, earnings, rings, necklaces and so on. I'm just trying to catch up!

I'm going the other direction, just sold Big Star last night to a nice couple with three boys.

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#11415 7 months ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

You know
I do not think I have ever seen a Big Star or Super Star that was in real nice shape.
While the games I have seen or owned were playable,
cosmetically they were always lacking.
Lots of BG flaking
CAB paint looking shabby
and PFs with planking.
OVerall the art package just not being very pretty
does not help either,
even though the game play and features are kinda cool and fun.

The playfield on this one was fairly good, some wear around the poppers and a few other odd spots. I think it spent time in a barn though as there was a mouse nest or two and the temp changes take their toll on the backglass. The front of the cab was actually off when I purchased it! I did repairs, fixed a bunch of solder joints that were broken and gave it a good cleaning. Has a Bally chime set which sounded really cool and different. I picked it up to do a re-theme, but have more projects than time so.. And yes it was a very fun game to play, get both the bonus lit and sink the shot to advance the add-a-ball was fun if you could pull it off!

The new owners may do a repaint, the wife was very excited about the purchase and could not wait to get it home and start playing.

Lots of my residents enjoyed playing it, I'll have to bring another one in this summer.

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#11471 7 months ago
Quoted from DRDAVE:

And it's sister game 6 months ago:

Marvelous video, enjoyed it during lunch. Excellent ball control I thought, beats me.

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#11485 6 months ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

Sweet find, Ballypin! I’ve always liked the playfield lamp animation on this title. I kinda wish more manufacturers took a similar approach. I can only think of a couple, like Magic Carpet, and Firecracker.

Clearly the same setup as Time Zone, very cool!

And I agree, would be cool if it had been done more.

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#11568 5 months ago

Domino is now at work to entertain my residents and help those who need standing physical therapy.

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#11571 5 months ago
Quoted from Pinslot:

That really is a great idea. How often do seniors take advantage of your pin service?

All the time, the staff like playing too. A number have never played before!

#11573 5 months ago
Quoted from dasvis:

You need a multiplayer game in there & get some trash talking chatter going.
It's more fun to compete!

Have to see which one I can rotate in next after a few months. Night Rider would be a good choice.

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#11579 5 months ago
Quoted from Ballypin:

Here are the first pictures of my latest additions to the collection, picked up during my first trip to Pinfest in Allentown:
1967 Bally Rocket III
I was somewhat looking for this title when one popped up in Philly about 2 months ago. I responded to the ad but pinsider Bruce znet was able to snag it. Bruce already had this title and passed it onto his friend and fellow pinsider colsond3. Colson did some great restoration work but ultimately decided to sell the game and I was able to pick it up Friday night after Pinfest. A Ted Zale zipper flipper design with a spinning bumper and left lane kickback.
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1966 Bally Loop The Loop
I have always been intrigued by the layout of this Ted Zale game with the S-curve ball entry, spinning bumper and dual bonus ladder feature. I had passed on buying several times previously but got serious after playing it for the first time at the 2018 Spring VFW show. Pinsider Pinjunkie16 offered his for sale but since I could not meet him at York last fall, we waited until Allentown to complete the deal. This example is the add-a-ball version and will clean up very well.[quoted image]

Wife and I played a Loop the Loop in the freeplay area, it was pretty good.

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#11595 4 months ago

Took over a week to get to this point.. Another coat or two of primer, some block sanding..

Then to start on the cabinet.

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#11596 4 months ago

Seen better days

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#11621 4 months ago

A formally battered Hearts and Spades awaits fresh paint and my first go at webbing.. 2 of weeks of work to make the cabinet and head solid again.

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#11636 4 months ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

If it were me, I'd make a true wedgehead out of it. That was my first ever machine, and I couldn't stand how that head looked next to my brother's "Subway".
I've always wanted to see what it would look like with a wedgehead backbox. I think it would look great.

One factor in me looking for one was it was NOT a wedgehead, I like oddities. Interesting they tried something different and the gameplay is fun and it sounds great!

1 week later
#11670 4 months ago
Quoted from pinball419:

Here is a panorama view of my collection of working machines. There are 6 more machines that are in progress.[quoted image]

Pirate Gold! That is a Chicago Coin title I would not mind, missed out on two so far.

3 weeks later
#11697 3 months ago

Night Rider gets a lighting upgrade.. always hated that those plastics over the banks were dark aside from one sunk lamp. Not anymore!

4" LED strips from Comet.
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#11699 3 months ago

Work coming along...

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#11705 3 months ago
Quoted from Sea_Wolf:

Just picked up my first Gottlieb yesterday. As a wise person on here said recently, “you don’t find pinball machines, pinball machines find you”.
Got some things to fix on it and the playfield has wear and planking, (not to mention the horrible small area of touched up backglass but I’m glad this gem spoke to me.

Something about Gottliebs of this vintage speak to me if that makes sense, I knew I wanted a Domino and a Hearts and Spades just upon seeing a video of game play. The art, the sounds, the layout all come together.
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#11716 3 months ago
Quoted from Sea_Wolf:

One thing that always goes through my mind when seeing the older beauties is just how many of them still exist. Your Hearts and Spades has to be pretty rare with only 615 produced from 1969. I wonder if you have 1 of only 100 left.

Melody, another rare title; spent yesterday getting cabinet repairs squared away. Today thoroughly cleaned the playfield with magic eraser and naphtha, hand buffed out with Meguiars #2 followed by Meguiars Gold paste wax. Replaced five GI sockets, installed Comet 1SMD LED for the GI and 1SMD non-ghosting for the inserts which were also cleaned, polished the metal posts, installed new elastics, cleaned and adjusted all playfield switches, polished the plastics. Camera washed out all the inserts closest to the lens, annoying as it doesn't capture how great it looks.

Plays good and spunky! Great game.

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#11723 3 months ago
Quoted from woody76:

picked this up last night. needs a good cleaning and a few adjustments, but should be a nice player.[quoted image][quoted image]

Fun game! Played one at Pintastic in 2017. You would think with just one bell it would be rather boring but with all those roll overs actually makes a lot of noise.

#11731 3 months ago
Quoted from illawarra92:

even after collecting and restoring em's since 1977 I still get a rush with a pbr order[quoted image]

Box from PBR and Comet yesterday, woo!