Anyone needs lenses, I can recommend a friend of mine - owns Pacific Rim Camera. Yes, he is a pin nerd too. Ask for Mike
Quoted from o-din:
Those are Mexican cokes made with real sugar. They all have that label. Funny, I was hearing that song wild mountain honey in my head when we opened that jar.
Dan says he wants to take this one with him.
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Looks like he's telling you that you are #1 !
No damn powder coating or childish plastic playfield "toys" here on EMside.
These are manly pins for manly men.
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:
Surf Side got some new metal tonight. It only took me 3 hours to change out the coin door but I got it done.
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Dammit, those doors from PBR look NICE!
I need three.... then once you put the door on, the coin drop housing looks shabby, & on &on. Where does the madness stop?
Quoted from jjpm:
They are really well done!
The only thing holding me back from picking a couple more up for my machines is that no one seems to sell the hinge for the door anymore and a rusty hinge doesn't look right with a new door (silly, I know, but I really notice it on my Flying Carpet that has one of those new doors).
Evaporust - This shit works!
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:
There is another reason I like the head up on an EM. The glass. When it is straight up there is no movement (typically) unless some idiot likes to have score reels rub on the glass by not having the soft part of velcro reapplied where the old stuff was from the factory (in the head). this keeps the glass from moving at all. If the glass lays flat there is potential for movement back and forth in the channel. When I move my games I like to have the head upright when it is not attached.
Never thought about using the soft side of the Velcro for this. Good idea! Will experiment with it.
Works in progress---
Getting serious about clearing the High hand playfield.
Cleaning out my paint booth (err.. garden shed) today. On the fence about doing touch up, may just clear it & leave the patina.
Quoted from Darcy:
The 1/4 panel contour, the lack of a wheel well molding, the mirror, and rear seat area. Were the hints I had. Colour is always tough as photos slightly alter the hues. Now were is the Fender Skirt?
Skirt is under the car. I added air to the tires last weekend -- Drove it to Hot August nights in Reno back in 1999, but it's been several years since it has been on the road. Will likely need to rebuild the carb, replace the fuel pump, & flush the fuel lines. We will see. Since the pinball bug bit the interest in the bird has diminished ....
Quoted from EMsInKC:
The only issue with the score motors is the switch stacks sometimes have those connecting wires between stacks. On the last one I did I broke one, just soldered it back together. I'm pretty sure it's good, I'll know for sure when the game is finished.
On a side note, I had a game that had an intermittent problem. After HOURS & HOURS of cleaning switches, adjusting, etc, etc. I found a cracked solder joint on one of those connecting wires. A word to the wise, check those closely!
Quoted from PinballFever:
I'm thinking of getting one of the late 50's or early 60's Bally bingo games because I read that the earlier games are less complicated troubleshooting wise vs the later 70's games.
The heads look like monsters though. How heavy are they?
About 200+ #
The majority of the weight is in the head.
Quoted from AlexSMendes:
I'll be visiting Vegas and the PHoF next November.... It will be my first time there.... any hints on the EM pins I should look for to play?
Yeah, just find one w/o maintenance issues.
Last time I was there it was tough... hell a couple were missing the rubber tips on the shooter....
Sexy paint job on that surfer. Has to be one of Gottlieb's better cabinet paint schemes.
Quoted from stashyboy:
Thanks for the compliments guys-
That's the NOS field that came from Italy. Lots of TLC and help with parts from PBR, and some re-plated stuff from Mike Chestnut. This is someone else's game, but I have a lesser copy for myself. Thing is fun to play. Feast or famine. When the Wow targets do get lit, they can really be generous Pop! Pop! Pop!
AAB pins are pretty rare out here in Oregon. Played a couple at the PNW pin show & loved them. 2001 is sweet, & this looks even better.
Quoted from bicyclenut:
Ok you guys are probably sick of me but I just finished my El Dorado today. This thing was kinda beat. New backglass, plastics, drop targets coin door, shopped the payfield and new legs. So yeah, I've sunk some money into this one. But it's worth it. I'm leaving the cabinet alone. It's in pretty good shape, a few nicks here and there. I rebuilt the flippers and used orange dot Gottlieb coils only on the bottom 2. It plays really fast and smooth. Wish I had a new Wade playfield for it. Love this game and it's going to stay in my house for a long time.
Great looking pin, but ditch the LED's on the playfield!
Quoted from bicyclenut:
I've used the Orange Dot coils on a few of my games....Makes a world of difference. Thanks
It really does, I put orange dots in my King kool (all four flippers) & you can really make the spinners sing. Played a King kool w/o orange dots at the PNW show last weekend & it was not nearly as fun.
Quoted from SirScott:
I brought this home last weekend--just set it up today. I have been jonesin' for a Big Hit for several years and a friend of mine passed a great deal that he got onto me. Rock on, Bill!
I have to admit, my pants were a little snug bringing this home.
It will need a good cleaning and some work, but it is in pretty good shape. Sorry for the crappy pics.
Cool game. A local Barcade has one of those in their EM lineup. One thing it could benefit from would be a pair of PBR's orange dot flipper coils.
Quoted from o-din:
That will probably work.
But since I do have room in my truck for two, I took his xtra Darts too. Complete with an STP sticker on the drink shelf.
Dammit - where do you find all these cool old Williams pins with the drink shelf? Did they ship them all to CA?
You never see these here in Oregon.
Me want one.
Side note - if anyone needs a vintage STP sticker to restore a pin, I have several 100 in my collection.
Probably a Bardahl sticker too...
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:
Did a light restoration on this one with New Pop Bumpers, Posts, Flippers, Playfield Plastics, Rubbers, Ball, with some minor paint touch ups to the Cabinet along with a full Shopout replacing 6 coils with new as well.
VERY nice, but why 6 coils? They don't really wear out.
Quoted from amason2308:
Just picked up a Bally Hokus Pokus and am pretty pysched. For $200 I'm really happy with it. Backglass is a little flaky and the playfield has worn/sunken inserts, but everything seems to be working now other than the GI. If anyone can help me out with the GI I started a tech thread here.....
Looks like the same dude on the Card Whiz backglass........
Quoted from boilerman:fireball is 99% done. need a 0-9 bell and clapper( help me if you can) i need to install the new plastics and put in the bg.
other then that it is up and playing and 0 issues so far.
What's with the Williams coin blank?
Marcos offers this insert, looks great -
Quoted from Vic_Camp:
Top Card is up there in the best 10 wedgeheads ever produced for playability. What a great player it is!
Nice find and addition to your collection.
Darn it, my Top card is still sitting in storage, awaiting restoration. Gotta get to that one next, I really enjoyed playing Tim M's sweet example at the Tacoma show.
Quoted from boilerman:
i waited so long to find one, when i had the opportunity to get two i pulled the trigger. now i can say i have had every system 1 game. system ones don't get much love but they are what i cut my teeth on early on. i can't say i hated any of them even soar ride wasn't that bad imo
I know of a local Solar ride I could pick up, but it's more than I want to spend. GREAT backglass art!
Quoted from o-din:
Once you have all the bugs worked out you will be an expert. And then the challenge of taking your knowledge to the next one will be too great to pass up. Soon after that you will be fixing them in your sleep and your garage will be full of them.
Just speculation of course....
Pretty much what happened to me.
Really fun play on Team one. There was a nice example at the PNW pin show & I played it quite a bit.
Quoted from 1974DeltaQueen:
Just finished Flipper Pool. Big Shout out to Pinhead52 and Boilerman for their tips . This is only my 6th repaint , finally got the webbing right its very fine using the Laquer Thinner method . Shout out to Jeff Miller of Pinball Pimp, his stencils are worth every nickel
GREAT color combination on that cabinet..
Agreed, the Pimp is the man for stencils.
Quoted from Electrocute:
I know I've shown this machine before but I got it rocking now. Wade Krause playfield. Re-installed the Gottlieb 5141 coil on the right flipper and took more time adjusting it. It's tricky. Rolled machine 3 times on my last game!
Love those mid-70's Bally EM's!
Quoted from wayner:
My thks to Dirt Flipper for assistance in resolving an issue with score motor not completing revolution to enable operation of replay button-turned out to be a mal adjusted 1C score motor run out switch.
Hey, where is Dirtflipper anyway? Is he OK - I have not seen him on pinside in ages.
Quoted from wayner:
Never encountered a machine where a previous owner had literally oiled everything I assume in an endeavour to resolve the operational issues. The clean up required some effort.
Anyhow machine now working 100% & plays really well.
Ugh, I had had the "pleasure" of restoring a couple of pins that had been WD40'd -- what frigging mess.
Pin looks fantastic & great job on cleanup!
Quoted from heatwave:
Count this as 'almost' showing you my new EM game:
Saw a Craigslist ad yesterday in St Louis for a EM Joker Poker. After hyper-ventilating for a few seconds, I called the guy immediately and I was the first one to go look at. He agreed to sell it and I left him with a deposit (he and his wife were leaving to visit their son for a Super Bowl party, and it would be a MAJOR two person job to get the game out of his basement). Here are some pics...
A few hours later I get a call; his son was very upset, did not know he was planning on selling the game and was hoping it would go to his house, etc.
Long story short, no EM Joker Poker for me! The seller was very nice (and VERY apologetic about the change in plans) and I did get to play a EM Joker Poker for the first time. Win some - Lose some.
NEVER leave a game with just a deposit.
You could have pulled the backbox, playfield, & bottom board to make it easy to move.
Visited the Pacific pinball museum this week while on vacation in SF. My wife mentioned that she really liked the classy look of the woodrails, and stated that she would not mind having one in our family room. Hmm- sounds like I need to find one before she changes her mind!
.... or maybe I can bring the '57 Bally Showtime bingo home that I bought last year...
Quoted from pinwiztom:
Did you get to see the PPM annex?
Should have tried to talk to Mike Schiess
and mentioned my name and Salem,
might have gotten to sneak a peek,
if he had the time.
No, I was with the wife & my daughter. Was lucky to get 2-1/2 hours there, but did my best to play as many woodrails & 60's EM's as I could. Did not see any with your name on the display tag.
They had some really nice pins, but a few needed adjustments & cleanings.
Love the artwork on this vintage of Bally. Wizard, Captain fantastic, & Old Chicago in a row would be the bomb!
Yup, I was there in the 70's playing those pins. EBD was my Bally of choice.
Bally was not afraid to try new layouts... some were turds, but most were great in that era.
How is that backglass film? I have seen his site while browsing bingo pin stuff & I have always wondered.
Quoted from docquest:
Here are some pics of the backglass film install. Looking at the condition of my old glass you can see why I needed it.
Here's a video the seller made showing how to install it.
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Here are some pics of my install.
I used the wet method to install as recommend by the seller. He definitely does not recommend the dry method. I laid the film and new glass next to each on a towel. I cleaned the glass. I applied a liberal amount of water from a spray bottle onto the film as I peel it off its backing as well as the new glass itself. the mix was 1 bottle of water with 2-3 drops of dish soap. The seller says you can't use too much water.
The water lets you tweak and adjust the position. Once its centered you use a squeegee to get as much water out as possible. I was a little aggressive with the squeegee and created a few scratched in the clear area around the moon window. However its very minor. I wasn't able to get a good pic of it since it was so hard to see.
The film is wider than the glass so there is some clear film over hangs on all 4 sides. Once its dry for an hour or 2 then trim the excess off. Even though I cleaned the glass prior to install, I noticed a hair trapped under the film when I was trimming the edges. Now that the film is dry I don't think it can be removed without damaging the art. Luckily its very small and hard to see unless you really look for it. So while its still wet you should also flip over to the front to double check nothing is trapped between the glass and the film.
I think it looks great. Compared to the original the color is not exact but unless you had an original next to it I don't think you would ever notice the color difference. I'll definitely use him again if I need another glass that he has done.
When I attached the trim to the glass it was a little loose so I also put some friction tape on the edges. The trim is nice and snug now. Unfortunately the game isn't running yet so I can't see how it looks all lit up yet.
Quoted from Otaku:
Fully original CQ 1977 Gottlieb Team One. Immaculate playfield. (Scratches are in glass)
Had some extra dough from a hard-work month of April and from a game I flipped so brought this beautiful add-a-ball version of Abra Ca Dabra home from PinFest, among others. .
Bought that with the paypal "flooded basement" donations?
Quoted from Azfalconfixer:
Hello all, I'm new to pins and new on the forum. Picked up a rather weathered Flying Carpet today. Looks all original and all there including lots of paperwork. Turn on but won't start. It was setting on this guys back patio for several years. Back glass art is rough, cabinet wood is in good shape but paint is faded. Blew all the dust out of it and it looks really clean inside. Figured I only paid $70 for it so it should be a fun project.
Damn nice shape for $70. Welcome!
Read this, it will be your bible. http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index.htm
Quoted from PinballFever:
What do you consider more exciting gameplay and why?
Paul Bunyan has a lot of non-stop action with the flippers at bottom, middle and top.
(My wife likes it for this reason. She gets bored with some games waiting for the ball to come back down to the flippers as it bounces around the top or middle of the playfield)
The backglass was done by one of my favorite "cartoony character" style pinball artists, Art Stenholm, and is in great condition.
The cab and coin door were strategically cropped out while filming the video and you can see why from the photos below. I'm hoping to re-paint the cab and de-rust/clean up the coin door/plates this summer so the game will look as good as it plays.
Hurry and get yours playing so you can share your feedback on the gameplay!
Yeah, the coin door is pretty decent. Give it an Evaporust bath & it should look sweet. The coin door plate should be no problem, but rumor has the coin chutes may be tough to find.
Quoted from PinballFever:
The coin chutes and entry plates were removed in preparation for de-rusting.
I also have new entry plate price plastics from PBR.
Great - grab yourself a gallon of Evaporust & prepare to be amazed. You will need a plastic container big enough to submerge the coin door & coin entry plate.
Quoted from embryonjohn:
My son says, "who needs spinners when you have Vulcan's hall of fire?
We both love those 5 star rollovers when their lit for 1k each, never mind when it's 2X scoring
This game restores my faith in humanity. Can't stop playing it.
Dang, that's a clean looking Vulcan --- Nice!
Quoted from jrpinball:
Also, if your not aware of it, this is where to go for parts for your game... pbresource.com. He has a rebuild kit for the Williams chime box. I used one on a "Blue Chip" I rebuilt last year, and the chimes sounded great after the rebuild.
Seriously? I have never had any luck making Williams chimes sound other than like a hammer hitting an aluminum bar...
Is there a secret I am missing?
The women on the backglass look very similar to the ones on Bally bingo pins, perhaps same artist?
Would love to get a captain card to go next to my high hand. Played a captain at the nw pin show... totally different pin. Though the one I played had crappy flickering LED's in it. Incandescent bulbs all the way please, in rebuilt or new sockets.
Quoted from NicoVolta:
SHHHUUSH! You'll get hate mail for days!
(I agree tho... Gottlieb is the fussiest all things considered)
Those damn Gottlieb relays with the short blades & tiny throws.
.... Then there is the feared Gottlieb "AS" relay, the ones that have two switches are an absolute bitch to get setup just right...
Gimmie a big 'ol Bally relay any day.
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:
I am bummed to inform everyone that I will be getting a divorce and I am forced to sell all of my pinball machines I have left (3 of them) You should easily be able to find my 3 games for sale in the for sale ads. 1948 Gottlieb Buccaneer, 1952 Gottlieb Queen of Hearts and a 1952 Gottlieb Coronation. If this posting is not allowed then please just kindly edit it. I would hope that this posting would be a catch all post to explain why I might not be seen on here anymore possibly for years to come. I enjoyed everyone's postings and help on here for the last 4 years. It has been a good time.
aka Rat Tomago
That sucks. Sorry to hear it.
Quoted from Adrian:
I've had this game for over two years and it took about half that time to restore new playfield from Wade and backglass from Shay everything is brand new. The aim was to rebuild the machine to a new in box condition.It's a pleasure to play and just as good to look at hopefully it will servive another 40 years. I have a sky jump and a Abra that I will be completing in the near future.
But why a single coin slot?
Quoted from SteveinTexas:
Just in today, long time favorite and finally I snagged one! Put it together, fired it up and played. Got excited and tilted the last ball.
Plays much better than the one I played in Asbury Park a few years ago and that one interested me enough to buy one.
So need to clear it, LED it and paint the cabinet. Joking this one I leave alone.
Needs some toy figures hot glued to the playfield.
Quoted from goldenboy232:
Here's two shots from today of my set-up here in San Antonio. Working on the second Quick Draw (to sell; not pictured) and in the market for another project or game to add to my own collection...
The green cabinet on Bank-A-Ball really stands out.... great looking pin.
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:
EM folks are the best, thanks all!
I’ll order a punch. In the meantime I rebuilt the problem flipper with new parts minus the old part (which didn’t look mushroomed), it plays so much better now! Amazing to actually be able to hit the right side of the upper drops now
Note it is a roll pin punch you need. I has that little tit in middle of the face to keep it centered.
Quoted from spinal:
Agree - this is in fact true for every pin, old and new, just becomes more important the older the machine. I went to NW Show last year and found a long row of highly-tuned Gottliebs (I think by TimMe) and it was a joy to behold; every machine was being played and enjoyed all weekend long even by newcomers.
Exactly. Classic pinball at it's best. TimMe's restored pins are outstanding!
Quoted from ZNET:
Cedar Mar Yacht Club on Barnegat Bay in Toms River, NJ, established in 1966, where my family docked a boat. I suspect that the photo was taken around 1967, when I was 8 years old. My brother, 3 years my senior, is on the far left.
Note that I am the only kid who declined to remove hands from flipper buttons for the photo. It's no surprise that pinball became my hobby of choice.
Probably had a hot game going & is cradling a ball during the photo.
Quoted from Mopar:
Although I have a couple others with nice playfields with one being in the wrong lower cab., and the
other having only an okay cabinet, this one's cab. for sure is the better of the three. I picked it up from the
son of the father that bought it new in 1961. The only thing with the cab. is what appears to be touch
up spots on the lower front head. The son was too young to remember when it arrived to the house..
It has no coin entrance, or a serial number, but has the # 188 under the upper playfield apron..
Also, instead of having yellow and green bumper caps, it has yellow and blue.
Although a Subway is already set up, I'm sure I'll find a spot for it..
Interesting coin door.... it DOES look stock.
Quoted from JethroP:
Had shipped to me from a Pinsider in Connecticut. Disappointed in the shitty amateurish cabinet paint job (not disclosed it turned into a wrinkle finish). Some day I'll redo it. Removed 7 purple LED's and fixed several operational problems. Cleaned and waxed the play field. Looks and plays great (except for the cabinet paint).
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Need a Card whiz next to those two
My Royal guard project. Fully working, finally getting around to prepping the cabinet for paint.
Quoted from PSchwisow:
I'm concerned about spending a lot of time and money only to end up with a machine that still doesn't work and is still virtually worthless.
Ahh, but the education on doing the repair work is invaluable, & if you fail it never hurts to have a parts machine for future projects. Win / Win
Low end pin men rule!
Quoted from canoncitypb:
Just completed a restoration of my 1972 Gottlieb World Series machine.
You can see more details on my blog at:
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Best backbox / backglass integration in all of pinball. nice
Quoted from DNO:
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Looks good, but the fuses are still dusty. Have you pulled them to check for correct ratings? I think that I have found maybe two fuses with the correct amperage rating out of all of the pins that I have worked on.
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