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EM : Show us your EM Pinball Machines!

By Rat_Tomago

6 years ago

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#398 6 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Got it. Which do you enjoy playing more? The Replay or the AAB?

Between Lucky Hand and Jacks Open, I like LH the best. But JO is no slouch game either.

You can't always say the AAB is better than the replay version or vice versa.

Mike O.

4 weeks later
#517 6 years ago

Here is a shot of my Gemini since it seems to be in the news lately.

Mike O.


#518 6 years ago

A few more of Gemini.

Mike O.


#519 6 years ago

Close ups of the playfield.

Mike O.

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2 months later
#895 6 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

my top 3 3" flippers
1- el dorado
3 Jacks open
my top 3 2" flippers
1- slick chick
2-north star
3-kings & Queens
but every other one I have are very good also. IMO every wedgehead gottlieb made was a great player with the exception of a hand full ie. road race

I like the wedge head rut you are stuck in!

Mike O.

#904 6 years ago
Quoted from PinballHelp:

The playfield is really nice - the inserts need to be leveled. What killed us is the first stage gear in the score motor lost a bunch of teeth, so I decided I was going to re-build the score motor gear box. I talked Steve Young into sending me the parts and I videotaped the whole process. In the end, the score motor was still a bit sticky, but I am not sure if it's because we made the gears too tight, or there's a finger or two that has too much pressure on the rotating plates - but the game now works, but the score motor is still sluggish... I'm pretty disappointed about that and I even showed my video series to Clay Harrell to make sure I didn't do anything wrong and he said my process was fine. One issue I had was one of the gears did not fit in the box and I had to modify it, so it's definitely an inexact science rebuilding a gear box. I can see why neither Clay nor Steve Young encourage others to do it. Anyway, that video series was shot - I'm trying to fully-solve the sluggish motor problem before I post it.

If you are that concerned by a used replacement score motor. They come up on ebay all the time. You should be able to get one for less than $60 at the outside. In fact, here's one right now:

ebay.com link » Gottlieb Crescendo Pinball Score Motor Multi Products Spec 658

Many have sold for much less than that:

ebay.com link

Mike O.

1 month later
#1412 6 years ago

Atlantis is the best 70's EM hands down. Grab it if you can.

Mike O.

#1494 6 years ago
Quoted from John_in_NC:

I want to send some parts out to chrome, who does yours and how $$?

I had several of this same receiver channel rechromed a little over a year ago. I sent mine to Mike Chestnut in TN. I don't know if he frequents here but his work is outstanding. He is a pinball guy and his own games are exceptional to match his work. He has been doing WPC game habitrail plating for going on a decade now.

He charged me $35 each which included some repair on most of them where there was rust/pitting. They all came back amazing. I did have to cover the shipping on top of that both ways.

Let me know if you need contact information for Mike.

Mike O.

3 weeks later
#1696 6 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Here's a few of my others.
Gottlieb Royal Guard. This was a complete restoration.

Here it is as it was when I bought it.

Williams Ding Dong. Cabinet repainted and repro backglass

Gottlieb Top Card. Getting ready to do a playfield swap thanks to Adam Kovalsky

Bally Surfers. First game I ever owned, got it in 1971. Cabinet has some paint starting to flake but other wise still good. Playfield looks like the day it was made.

I've also got a Big Indian and a Bank A Ball that I need to get some better pictures of.

Your handle could be interpreted that you are in the Kansas City area. Is this true?
If so, do you go to either of the monthly pinball leagues?

Mike O.

#1725 6 years ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Here is the money shot.
On the board, there is a "Canada" stamp. The shipping block is still inside the back b

Quoted from Darcy:

Time to add some more photos. This should bump this post! Here is my Strange World, it is suppose to be HUO.

Not to burst your bubble but 60,000+ plays is a well maintained route game in my book. The condition on the coin inserts and coin door would be your best indicator along with the play meter. Unless they changed the play meter out at some time but then why would you do that to a HUO game.

It's an exceptional example, HUO or not.

Mike O.

#1750 6 years ago
Quoted from manitouguy:

MikeO - like Darcy i too have a strange world - mine also has about 64,000 plays but never left the first owners home .. until i found it
thats alot of pinball in the basement over 40 years !!!
cheers, Ron


That sure is a lot of home use play.

Mike O.

#1756 6 years ago
Quoted from manitouguy:

now if i could just find a replacement plastic for one of mine that has a chip in it ... i wouldn't have to remake that one !
cheers, Ron


Which plastic do you need? I have the leftovers from when I put an NOS set on my SW from several years ago. But looking at IPDB I see I am missing the two slingshot(?) plastics.

I have the following:
B-17954 big one on left with five eyes on it. - split near bottom hole but all there.
B-17592 top left. split near hole on blue green end but all there.
A-17591 right side near outlane with one single eye - 100% complete.
A-17593 upper right side - bottom left corner chipped off.

If you need one of these you can have it. Just let me know.

Mike O.

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#1896 6 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Here's a picture of where I mean.

I just learned something new today. Thanks Dirt-Flipper.

Mike O.

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#2089 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Big Don is all aces in my book! He did a fantastic restoration on a Gottlieb baseball themed woodrail which he brought to last year's York show (the name escapes me at the moment). Great guy and a great asset to the hobby!

I wasn't at York but I believe the game Don was working on about that time was a Gottlieb Hit n Run.

Mike O.

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#2148 6 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

This one is done and sold to a fellow Pinsider.
In the middle of Flying Carpet now - should be done in a few more days. Nice playfield, decent cabinet, and backglass has been taped w/packing tape and touched up (hard to find a nice backglass on this era of game).

Nice work on the El Dorado. I would be proud to own that game.

Mike O.

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#2218 5 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

any one here ever play Gtb Gemini ?I got to play one today and WOW it was a great player.

I have owned and played the game. It is a decent player. Definitely better than some of the 70's multiplayer Gottlieb EM's.

I've actually owned two of them. I sold mine last year when I found out how much I could get for it.

Here are some pictures of it.


Mike O.

#2220 5 years ago
Quoted from DryHeat:

Thought I'd join the group and share pics of my 1959 HUO Universe. Besides being HUO, what's great to me is the machine and I are the exact (within two weeks) same age

Is this the same game that Jeff in Indy owned previously?

Very nice game.

What I find interesting is how solid even the 50's games play in HUO condition over what the routed versions play like. The operators really got their money out of them on route in the day.

Mike O.

#2223 5 years ago
Quoted from DryHeat:

Hey Mike, been a while,
Jep, got this from Jeff several years back.

Hey Tim,

Long time. It's good to hear from you. I'm also glad to see you get into the EM games. It's nice that there is something new to experience.

I like your handle - DryHeat - very appropriate for later in the year. I could live with a little dry heat right now. They are predicting 12"+/- of snow this weekend and highs of 20 where we should be seeing highs of 50.

Mike O.

#2228 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

What's the story on finding all the NOS stuff for it? That's gotta be unique.

Don Murphy had the playfield, plastics, and instruction cards. It was probably 8-9 years ago. Surprisingly some of the playfields were readily available. I got his last Gemini Playfield. The right timing I guess. I believe he had Golden Arrow and Hit the Deck playfields also that I passed on.

The backglass came from Mayfair. It was not perfect but was worlds better than what came in the game.

I was only on the tail end of the last of some of the NOS parts.

Mike O.

#2233 5 years ago

I know of a HUO Sittin Pretty out in California. The game played very solid and looked gorgeous.

I owned a HUO Gottlieb Mustang for about a week. It played great but this title does nothing for me.

Mike O.

#2249 5 years ago

Was at a friend's house tonight putting a new plastic set in his Black Knight. His real love is EM's. He humored me letting me take a couple of pictures.

Not in the pictures are another handful of 60's wedgeheads - Central Park, Sing Along, and Ice Revue.

Mike O.

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#2251 5 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

Super cool setup your friend has Mike.
Love the selection of EM pins including Black Knight.
Looks like it was a fun evening.

Thanks, Ken. It wasn't so much fun as frustrating. Getting the plastics into Black Knight was uneventful. But he had just finished shopping his Buckaroo which turned out great so I was playing a bunch of games on it. Looks great and plays even better - except I'm finding it hard to like Buckaroo. His game plays like a dream but it is hard as hell to hit the roto targets and win getting four in a row.

Mike O.

#2261 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Sometimes on Buckaroo ya gotta let the ball drain between the flippers and sacrifice it to get the key '4' roto value, rather than trying to hit it. Really keeps you on your toes.

Getting the 4 was not that much of a challenge. On one game I got it on the drain. On others I was able to hit it. But being able to consistently hit other numbers was a real challenge. The openings at the roto numbers are too small and at the outlines are too big. I had a better chance of getting an A-B-C-D special than getting a four in a row replay.

I've owned a couple of decent Spin Outs, AKA the poor man's Buckaroo. From a play standpoint I like it better. The openings are fair. The shots through the upper side lanes flow better making the roto spins safer and easier. No way is it as pleasing to the eyes. Just seems more balanced.

Mike O.

#2266 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Those dang Gottlieb Rotos! The playfield is dimpled for two post positions, and the openings can be made a bit wider. It's not much, but helps some.
But it's not an easy game by any means.

Thanks, Dirt. I'll ask Kevin if he has the posts positioned for the largest opening possible on the roto. Every little bit helps.

Mike O.

#2268 5 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

I finally picked up my ACD and Big Daddy today.
Pics of the ACD for now. Kinda bummed about the condition of the bottom of the cabinet, but I should be able to fix that up secure. Check out the strange webbing on the backbox. Pics of Big Daddy to come later.

Nice pick up Dane. Will we be seeing another "Super Shopping" thread? I look forward to it.

The cabinet is fixable to make it solid. Litterally making some thin strips and gluing them to the portion that is left to hold the bottom panel in.

While the webbing on the head is more dense, that was par for the methods they used back then. Sometimes it was heavy and sometimes it was light.

Mike O.

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#2438 5 years ago
Quoted from Gov:

I have a newb EM question. Is the Teflon Gel Lube that Clay talks about in his videos the same stuff as Super Lube?


BTW, did Lonnie introduce us at TPF this weekend?

Mike O.

#2446 5 years ago

Nice score. And they look to be pretty decent condition. You have a lot of fun in your future.

Mike O.

#2470 5 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

Isn't that how we all celebrate our successes? I know I do!! I'm still walking a little funny after finding the last bug in that Sweet Hearts!

To each his own.

Mike O.

#2490 5 years ago

Here are pictures of a Big Casino that I owned about 10 years ago. It looks nicer than it plays. Your hands get worn out grunching the game to keep the balls from draining through the lanes between the flippers.

Mike O.

#2534 5 years ago

Nice score on the Capersville. Looks like a fun game.

Would you be offended if we call it the poor man's Fireball?

Mike O.

#2551 5 years ago
Quoted from hawkeye11:

I have been enjoying this thread and thought I should add some pics. Here is my Gottlieb row.

Nice line up. I like your taste in games.

I've been trying to get the spinner to work/score right on my Outer Space lately and am anxious to play it again and seeing yours motivates me all the more to get it right.

Mike O.

1 month later
#2679 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

On other notes, rotordave became the fastest to 1000 on Big Daddy this evening. He was pretty determined

So you got to see the hearse hauler?

2 weeks later
#2726 5 years ago

That looks like a nice example of that game.

My first game was and Out of Sight, the two player versiOn of Far Out.

Have fun with it.

Mike O.

1 week later
#2753 5 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

My Big Hit restore is done. Pretty happy with it. Still waiting for the nickel-plated metal channel just below the neck. I'm trying out Mike Chestnut's plating service to see how they look.

I noticed Dirt commented how lucky you are to have the top drop target playfield plastic in one piece. If you want to keep it that way I recommend you double ring behind the drop targets. You will thank me later.

Also, I had Mike replate a half dozen of the playfield glass receiver channels a couple years ago. I had him chrome plate them thinking that is what original was. Got them home and found they were originally nickel plated. The chrome plating stands out compared to an original. You mention nickel plating above. Is he going to nickel plate it for you? If so, I may send mine back and have them redone in nickel.

BTW, nice work on your game.

Mike O.

#2800 5 years ago
Quoted from btw75:

I tend to undersell on purpose by highlighting the worst. I haven't even had a nibble, so maybe I've just over priced it or people are worried its going to be remade like MM and IM...

Be patient. The right buyer will come along.

3 weeks later
#2956 5 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

This is all because we need more pictures of EM machines. (This thread will never die!)

So when did you get a K&Q?

#2977 5 years ago

I did a full playfield swap on my Gold Strike the last couple of weeks. Found a fully populated GS playfield several years ago that had incurred a small fire on the bottom side and was taken out of service early in its life. I'd say the playfield it replaced was an 8 and this one is a 9.5. Turned out great.


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#2992 5 years ago
Quoted from manitouguy:

now who has a good tip for getting acorns nicely to seat on the posts above the plastics

I have always struggled with the new ones that PBR sells and can't figure out the best approach to take. The new ones always struck me as being just a little too small in hole diameter to fit correctly on the posts and went on extremely hard - so much so that I was afraid I might over torque the post. For that reason I have never used new ones. I've had enough games come through here over the years that I have replaced the original PAL nuts with the rubber nuts on some of the games I've sold so I have some original stock for my keeper games.

That all said, using the 5/16 nut driver like CactusJack mentioned, I wonder if a PAL nut was originally intended to just be pushed straight down on the post for the first application. This would deform the inner race of the nut and possibly open it up so that when taking it off it would not be so tight. I've not tried this method but have wondered if it has any merit.

Mike O.

2 weeks later
#3034 5 years ago

I had a Surf Side a dozen years ago.

The upper flippers and roto target, while unconventional, work pretty well together. It's one of the better multiplayer games from this era.

1 month later
#3081 5 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Here's a few shots of my latest restoration.

Did you repaint the cabinet? If so, exceptional work. And the shop job isn't too shabby either.

Pop A Card was the game that got me hooked on pinball. Learning the bounces off the slings is critical to do well on this game. I have a Pop A Card also and it kicks my ass so badly I don't want to play it. I need some advice on how to adjust the set up to make it more balanced.

Mike O.

#3084 5 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

I have found the upper side roll-overs to be very hard to hit as well, so collecting those wows is pretty much a pipe dream...

I can't explain how addictive Drop A Card was back in the day, and still is to this day. Even though it was more random than not, getting the upper specials was a treat every time.

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#3096 5 years ago
Quoted from Arcade:

Our latest lineup of EM's
I think this group will stick around for a bit.

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#3101 5 years ago
Quoted from Slim64:

Here is my first, "300" from Gottlieb.
Needs a couple small play field spots touched up (where the ball lands from the two kick outs. And the back glass needs some spots repaired.

That's a pretty nice 300 you have there. I wouldn't worry about the spots at the kickout holes or the backglass(other than finding a better backglass to replace this one with).

Having to take what is arguably in 95%+ condition and get that extra 5% out of it is not what this hobby is about.

Keep the playfield clean and waxed, rebuild mechanisms as needed to get it to play better, keep a new ball in it and play it. Have fun.

#3146 5 years ago

This just returned to roost after about 9 years in a friend's basement. Boilerman's cabinet repaint the other day has me jonesing for his skill set to refurb my cabinet. I'll find the time one day.


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#3160 5 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Now, can someone please do a massively detailed playfield swop video?!

It's not really that hard.

Strip the topside of the existing playfield and clean and polish and rebuild those parts as necessary.

Flip it over and strip the bottom side of everything that is left. Pull or cut the ground braid staples but leave the ground braid in place (you will thank yourself for this one) and shift the glob of harness and parts to a piece of cardboard and then from the cardboard to the new playfield. Screw items back in one at a time. You'll be surprised how fast it can go.

The biggest thing is have all of your parts ready to go whether they be replacement, polish the existing, rebuild the existing, refinish the wood side rails, etc. That way all you are distracted with is getting each part back into its position on the new playfield.

As for the ground braid, staple it back down where necessary. You won't have to staple everywhere they did at the factory because the solder connections(that weren't there yet when they laid the braid down at the factory) will hold a lot of it in place.

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#3175 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

This is the kind of pic that might make you ask what happened.

So what happened?

#3204 5 years ago

So Dan made it back to SoCal.

#3206 5 years ago

Something tells me you will run out of booze before he beats Big Daddy.

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#3231 5 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Time to hunt down some 31" legs!

So does that make EM #2?

#3235 5 years ago

Sky Jump isn't the best wedge head but it's still a great game. Mine does have some sentimental attachment. I give it more credit than most do.

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#3296 5 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I noticed some folks double-rubber the 2" flippers. What is the upside of doing this?

From an engineering/geometry standpoint, there are a few things to consider here.

1. The second, lower, ring closes the gap, just the smallest bit, between the flippers. So advantage to players' scores.
2. What I have noticed is that the original ring position sits above the ball centerline. Placing the second ring causes the flipper to strike the ball at or just below the ball centerline.
3. Not sure how much the geometry/physics come into play here but with only the ring installed in the original ring position I would expect a hit to the ball to push the ball into the playfield at the same time it is pushing the ball up the playfield. Obviously we see reams of evidence that this downward radiant of force has not caused overly intrusive damage to the playfield finish - among other things capable operators maintained their games so this did not occur. But a theory could be made that putting the contact point at or below the ball centerline can only improve the playfield durability.

#3308 5 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

why purple not pink?

I reshot the pink/purple when I had mine with a more brilliant purple because that was the best match available in a rattle can. Frankly the deeper shade went very well with the playfield and backglass colors.

#3334 5 years ago

Nice work on finding the replacement Sea Ray plastics. They are a huge improvement.

As for trying to move the standoffs from your old plastics to your new plastics, I'd first try your hand at polishing up the standoff from the new plastics to see if you can make them shine well enough. Removing and reinstalling the standoffs from the old plastics does not come without risks.

If you have the new plastics installed with the standoff that came with them in place your playfield looks amazing.

New bumper caps and it will be the icing on the cake.

Have fun with Sea Ray - it is a challenging game.

#3339 5 years ago
Quoted from beadwindow:

I was surprised to find a complete set as especially in the condition they're in. The posts should polish up fine-I looked at them again and there's no pitting, just the usual playfield grime.

Use Mother's Mag Polish in the paste form and they will turn out exceptional. You'll wonder why you even considered swapping them over.

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#3447 5 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

just finished these two

Dave - any chance the paint for those ACD's are rattle can colors? I'd like to touch up the head cabinet I got from you.

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#3464 5 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Michigan Pinball has an El Dorado near Detroit:

You're slipping Dirt. $2K for an ED COG doesn't hold much interest in any market.

#3466 5 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

Second game on the list is an EM El Dorado for $1400. Not very much flexibility on price, and it's a 7 hour round trip.
I am mulling it over, though. Would appreciate any input.

My mistake. My apologies to Dirt.

Mike O.

If the pictures are decent I'd look at it for that price if I was looking for one.

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#3511 5 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

While working on a game, I've been historically guilty of stacking tools, parts and cleaners on an adjacent game. Having finally installed Invisiglass on most games, I'm more careful about that bad habit. It won't likely last long, so I took some photos of most of my EMs before the clutter mysteriously appears again.

Nice Collection.

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#3571 5 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

Just finished a resto on my Pro Football prior to advertising for sale to enable space for imminent new arrivals Golden Arrow, Atlantis and maybe Spin Out.
When I got this machine it was pretty sad - poor cabinet, operational issues; flaking backglass; poor flipper power and a really badly mylar applied playfield (common on a number of Australian games).
So after a cab touch up, operational issues resolved (thks Kerry Imming & Dirt Flipper) including motor board, playfield & backbox rebuild; a bgresto backglass; flipper coil upgrade re Clays guide for this game and replacing the playfield this is now a fast & enjoyable machine-as always it will be sad to see it go.

Nice work. That came out great.

That's a lot of love applied to a game you plan to sell. Someone is going to have a really nice game.

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#3592 4 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Most. Hilariously. Suggestive. Backglass. Ever.

A bit more suggestive perhaps?

#3596 4 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

10 million to roll it over?!?

My understanding is they added two more dummy score reels on the right.

#3633 4 years ago

Are we going to get to play your Central Park at TPF this month, Dan?

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#3730 4 years ago
Quoted from ccotenj:

gotcha... i have my jacks open single ringed, that seemed to be what the chart implied...
think i should double it?

Mine is doubled. I've seen too many Jacks Open/Lucky Hand broken drop target plastics to not double ring it.

I go by experience also. Where the drop targets are a square shot from the flippers, like the upper drop targets on Countdown, they get double rings. Where they are glancing shots, like the lower drop targets on Countdown, they can survive with single rings.

Other examples where double rings are indicated, as witnessed by the number of broken plastics at these locations, is the drop targets on Sky Jump and Big Brave/Indian.

I go conservative and double ring most of my Gottlieb drop target banks. Keep in mind I'm also running 99% exclusively original drop targets also.

#3760 4 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Well this happened today. I sold my King of Diamonds and bought a Surf Side. I can always replace the KoD. Surf Side is just one of those titles you don't see pop up for sale. I also figured I needed to change it up.

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Nice game, Dan. I owned a Surf Side 15 years ago. The upper flippers and the roto target work well together. I'd go as far as saying it was the best Gottlieb multiplayer from the last half of the 60's.

Found it in western MI where my parents live. There must have been something in the water there. Four of the first games we found in that area were all great water related titles. Sea Ray, Surf Side, Surfer, and Fathom.

Have fun with it.

#3763 4 years ago

There's not much I've found in 60's multiplayer that has drawn me in enough to own.

Two games that I shopped out that stuck with me are Airport and Dodge City.

Dodge City is kept interesting and balanced with the kick out holes changing value and being worth 10 times when lit.

Airport kept my attention as well and I'm not normally a fan of vari target games. The vari target and its point scoring were a good mix of risk versus reward balanced with the other game scoring.

#3767 4 years ago

If you get a chance to play one play it.

Majorettes uses a lot of nudging and is a difficult AAB but is very satisfying when you earn extra balls.

Because of the nudging my hands get sore and I replaced the original lock bar with end caps with a 70's lock bar to make it easier on my hands.

#3777 4 years ago
Quoted from jfh:

I would like to add an AAB - if you could pick between Flipper Parade and Majorettes, which would you pick and why?

I'm not a fan of roto target games. So for me, I would choose Majorettes.

#3835 4 years ago

Dan - go to town with Mothers Mag Polish in paste form. $5 at Walmart or most any auto parts store. It will be all you need to bring a shine to that bell - that and some elbo grease. image.jpg

#3862 4 years ago

Nice choice/find Ken. I heartily approve.

#3887 4 years ago
Quoted from jjpm:

They are really well done!
The only thing holding me back from picking a couple more up for my machines is that no one seems to sell the hinge for the door anymore and a rusty hinge doesn't look right with a new door (silly, I know, but I really notice it on my Flying Carpet that has one of those new doors).

You can always sand/polish a rusty hinge to make it look better.

#3920 4 years ago

So I'm leaving town for work for three days tomorrow and I should be packing but I'm really not in the mood so I decide to play a few games of Atlantis to get me motivated.

I'm playing and not really getting anywhere and I'm really working the game and getting even less. So after about ten games or so I decide to stop trying so hard and let it flow. The second game into this loose mode I'm starting to flow and at the fifth ball I just start hitting on all cylinders and get special and hit a couple replays right away.

I'm thinking I should trap the ball and break out my phone and take a picture to post tonight when the ball decided balance on a center lane wire form in the bagatelle area. You can see it in the picture below. I couldn't have planned it better.

I stop and take my picture and go back to my game. I finished with 109K points and a half dozen replays and all is well with the world.

Atlantis can hand you your ass but when you hand it back its a great feeling of accomplishment.


#3922 4 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Beautiful game Mike. Very nice example of Atlantis! It was nice to see you again this year at TPF.

Same here, Dan.

You seemed to be in a pinball funk looking for your next great game. I wish you luck in your search. Another game always comes along.

#3926 4 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

There are not many 70's machines I want. I would like to have a 72 Bally Fireball again like I had in the 90's. I would like to play a 1970 2 player Scuba because it looks interesting. Maybe people can chime in on how they feel about the game Scuba.

Scuba game play is good for a multiplayer. I don't have much time in on one personally but it gets decent reviews. The hard part about Scuba is finding one with a decent playfield and backglass. The ones I've seen seem to have gotten played a lot on route and the coloring and layout make the playfields prone to wear.

I have one in my parents basement in Michigan but have not gotten it up and running yet. It's about a 7 all around.

#3981 4 years ago

Kind of stuck in a rut right now.


#3984 4 years ago

Abra Ca Dabra heads.

#3987 4 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

can anyone say HORDER!
I guessing one of those is one I sent you...

Yes, one of those is the cabinet you sent me.

I actually had accumulated two ACD's. One with a rough head and backglass and another with a great cabinet. The plan was to make the best of two into one. Then a third ACD showed up in exceptional condition. The third will be my keeper with only 29k plays on the meter. The best of the original two are just now getting play tested before it ships off to a collector in the northwest.

The funny part of the story is the third game which will be my keeper came with strings attached. I had to also buy his Asteroids upright video, a jukebox, a cheesy worn out foosball table, and a stop light. It took almost a year to get the deal consummated because he was asking way to much for the package deal and took that long for us to agree on price. And I still paid a premium for the ACD.

#3989 4 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Totally worth it though - congrats!

My thoughts exactly.

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#4034 4 years ago
Quoted from sysprog:

Just about ready to move this back to the gameroom.
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If original that is the nicest Gulfstream I've seen since back in the day.

Well done.

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#4107 4 years ago
Quoted from Svendtube:

I just picked-up a 1960 Williams Blackjack a couple weeks ago with the shelf cabinet .I am enjoying the game .I like that you can score 21 for special , beat the dealer ,and get a high score to win free games and I like the kick of the 50 volt coils. It also came with fully functioning coin units ,always ripped out of the 60's Williams games I have picked-up.

That's a game you don't see every day.

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#4215 4 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

that was my understanding and maybe I misunderstood?
on blue note one of the top roll over lights are lit. if you hit the lit one will a plunger shot you get 10k but once you any point is scored it goes out not to be see until next ball.
I am not sure about bally or Williams games but I can think of one gottlieb em that had that.
maybe mike0 or dirt can chime in

If you are talking a discreet skill shot then there are limited Gottlieb EM games that offer this. The examples that come to mind quickly are both Soccer/Super Soccer and Top Score/300 where if you hit the rollover at the top a stand up target lights for a Special if you hit it before scoring any points.

But, to me, the skill shot on any EM is the shot that gets you more points than the other alternatives. While not a disappearing skill shot, they are skill shots nonetheless.

Here are several examples:

1. On Surfer/Surf Champ one rollover lane is lit for 2 bonus where the unlit lanes provide only one bonus. To me the lit lane is the skill shot.

2. On Jumping Jack/Jack in the Box the lit hole is the skill shot. It also ups the value of drop targets/bonus by 10x.

3. On Spirit of 76/Pioneer there is a less obvious skill shot which is the center C rollover since that is the only place on the game you can get it. It doesn't cry out skill shot but it is the skill shot nonetheless.

4. On Quick Draw/Fast Draw either the A or C top rollover is the skill shot to me due to the fact that the B rollover is duplicated at the inner rollover lanes above the flippers. These B lanes are much safer to get than the adjacent A and C return lanes because any ball that hits at the A or C return lanes can rattle into the respective outlane.

5. On Drop a Card one of the two lanes at the top is lit for extra points.

6. On Slick Chick your skill shot is one of the top lanes for SLICK or CHICK and 50 points. If you already have SLICK as you plunge the next ball the CHICK lane is your skill shot and vice versa.

7. On any single player Gottlieb wedgehead where you are trying to unlight a letter or number at the top to complete a sequence the skill shot is a letter/number that you need. As you collect/unlight the letters/numbers the remaining letters/numbers become your skill shots. Ice Revue and North Star and Crosstown and.......

I'm ready for the controversy to fly now.

#4259 4 years ago
Quoted from goldenboy232:

Here's the beginnings of my EM collection. I've only been at it since mid-January but I'm very proud of my lineup. Hope to add a nice Gottlieb Bank-A-Ball later this month and then will have room for one more wedgehead after that.

Nice start.

Mr. Obvious chiming in here but either the legs on TA and B are too tall(should be 27.5") or the legs on FL are short (should be 31").

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#4315 4 years ago

I don't ever have a problem with bent legs, broken wood, or broken glass when I ship a game.


Not that the moving guys aren't nice capable people, they are at my place 10 minutes tops on a pick up.

#4322 4 years ago
Quoted from Tyamry:

That looks familiar! Thanks Mike O, great pin! Just set it up to play. I will fit it into the line up in the next couple of days!
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You're welcome, Larry.

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#4429 4 years ago

Here is the start of the finish. My Ken Head repainted North Star cabinet came home today.

Thanks, Ken!!


#4441 4 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

What about originality?

Most of my games are original condition. This one made the decision easy because the cabinet was painted over in mildly slathered on white enamel. There was no recovering the original finish so a quality repaint was a no brainer.

Had I found a second North Star with a decent original cabinet I would have just swapped them out. That's how my Slick Chick evolved.

#4459 4 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

I agree! It was stored in a basement for many years in non working condition. The tech replaced a burned out flipper coil, score step up units stripped and cleaned because they were seized solid, lots of corroded relay contacts cleaned, many failed lamps replaced, missing small bell unit replaced with a new one and two damaged legs replaced.
What's interesting is this "UTAH" pinball machine has flippers but they don't look like flippers. Can you find them in the playfield photo?

The flippers are the horizontal rings just above the out hole. Funny how they created their own configuration after the main manufacturers came out with the original 2" flipper design. Kind of like Gottlieb and Williams shared but United was not in the club.

#4512 4 years ago

The current queue.


#4514 4 years ago
Quoted from Mikala:

MikeO, what games are those, left to right? That third one from the left looks interesting with the 7 drop.lanes.

Left to right.

Outer Space
North Star
Kings & Queens

#4545 4 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

I am hoping to trade my cherry Slick Chick for some Bally(s) zipper flipper games.

Dan - I thought you already traded Slick Chick away around TPF? Did it come back home to roost?

You should have no problem finding a willing trader of zipper flipper game(s) for your SC.

#4559 4 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

This game looked like it had been in a flood.

When you metioned this game and it being in a flood and you being in the KC area I wonder if it might be the game that I had and traded about 15 years ago. It was an Odds & Evens that I traded from a neighbor at that time. Story goes it had been totally submerged in two separate floods. The back glass was basically perfect which amazed the heck out of me where the playfield and cabinet showed the exposure it had received. I traded it off to a friend who, if I recall correctly, got it running and sold it. Did you get the game in Stanley? If so, it is the same game.

I have no idea how far gone it was or how far he went with it after he got it running. But the comment of straw and weeds doesn't make sense unless it is a different game and coincidence that two Odds & Evens were totally submerged in this area.

Let me know when and where you got it.

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#4692 4 years ago
Quoted from TopMoose:

I made a video of my Jet Spin. Enjoy!
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I browsed through your video. Nicely done.

I noticed you have the urethane rings on the game. How does it play with these compared to new good quality bouncy white rings?

The only exposure I've had to urethane is on the flippers at the location we have league and, in general, I don't like them. They appear to deaden the ball action. They take spin off or just absorb energy. I've had to adjust my strategy for bounce passes where the ball is coming to one flipper and letting it bounce over to the other flipper. If it is coming slow where a normal rubber ring is on the flipper and the ball can make it to the other flipper I end up losing it as it doesn't transfer the momentum as well.

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#4776 4 years ago

It's zcai on the front and the rest of the letters are on the back so that when it spins it reads Zaccaria.

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#4845 4 years ago
Quoted from gottem:

Almost made an offer this morning for a local Sinbad SS that is in nicer player condition. I have not seen it in person yet but it's a short drive. Well I knew that was bad, and stopped my self from setting up the visit. I want my first to be collector quality Gottlieb 3" bat AAB. That Sinbad would have been settling due to impatience.

Keep in mind more than one game will be inevitable once you get the first one. So I wouldn't let the fact that the Sinbad doesn't match exactly the criteria you set for the first game get in the way. If the price and condition and accessibility are acceptable, go for it. If space or funds are an issue then that's a different story.

One is never enough.

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#4955 4 years ago
Quoted from frg:

So finally King of Diamonds arrived
For now my wedgehead line up is complete and I am super happy. Bowling Queen will get a new coin door, but that's it...
This was already there...

I've been watching your posts regarding your EM accumulation with interest.

I was in Ulm and Munich last week and it was all I could do to not invite myself over to your house to experience EM's in Germany. We actually traveled through Stuttgart on our way to Heidelberg one day but it was too long a day already to try and make a side trip.

Nice collection you have there. Enjoy.

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#5042 4 years ago
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

That looks about as fun to play as a Bally Vampire............meaning not much. To bad all the EM vampire themed pins were lame on both artwork and gameplay IMO.

And the girls on the backglass are butt ugly.

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#5102 4 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Here's a few shots of my Drop A Card. Complete restoration, someone had sanded off all the paint and stained the cab, I guess to make it look like furniture. Looked like crap instead.
This was a full restoration, including taking it completely apart (including the score motor) and cleaning and polishing the whole thing. Thanks to Boilerman who had already made the stencils, since I had nothing to go on to make my own, and also Ron Webb for an absolutely stunning backglass. And also to PBR for liberating me of way more money than I should have spent on this.

Well done, Ken. And on a great game to boot. I was lucky enough for DAC to be the game that got me hooked on EM pinball back in the day.

#5119 4 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Ken? Me no Ken.
But thanks anyway!

I don't know why but when I see your posts and those from EM-Pinman (Ken) I have to look twice to see who is posting. Sorry for the confusion. Nice work nonetheless.

#5141 4 years ago
Quoted from kovalski3:

Today's find! Really nice original machine Backglass is plexi. Probably a shay repro.

Probably an original. I'm not aware of Shay running any repros on plastic. (UPDATE - It has been confirmed that Shay did repro the glass for this game on plexiglass)

On the other hand, it is not that unusual to find some original back glasses from this era on plastic. That is why they hold up so well. Not sure if it's because the ink bonds better or if the plastic expands and contracts at a rate similar to the ink.

#5149 4 years ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

Shay's '62 World Series repro. is indeed Plexi, as are a few of his other baseball repros.

I stand corrected. Thanks Dennis.

You learn something new every day.

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#5202 4 years ago
Quoted from Toyguy:

Picked this old girl up over the weekend, a 1963 Gottlieb Flying Chariots. Definitely NOT a collector machine
Needs plenty of TLC, but is mostly there in terms of gameplay. It has some horrible relay buzzing going on, one of which gets to burning I think, so that's priority one. The rest is simple stuff - broken switch blades and the like. Cabinet is severely yellowed and quite beat up, but that's just character! Has a 20 Fr coin door, so apparently is a re-import. I may try to replace that with a US one if I can and maybe even a refresh/restore one day...

If it has a 50hz score motor (standard voltage in France runs at 50hz) that would be the thing that I would consider replacing before I touched the coin door. Assuming you are in the US on 60hz power a 50hz score motor will run faster than normal, faster than a 60hz motor. The score reels and bells will be noticably faster. It's a pet peeve of mine regarding the couple of reimport EM games I have owned. Change out the motor to a 60hz motor and it will be normal.

And frankly, that coin door appears to be straight and should polish out decently with some Mother's Mag Polish.

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#5261 4 years ago

I started putting my North Star back together tonight into the cabinet that Ken Head repainted for me earlier this summer.


1 month later
#5358 4 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

That is a terrific looking game. However, I guess that the guy who installed the NOS playfield delegated the flipper bat installation to a subordinate. And they're off. . .

If you look closer he did say he corrected the flippers.

1 month later
#5561 4 years ago

Just finished shopping out this Big Brave I sold to a friend.







#5575 4 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

It's not as bad as the pictures make it look after using every inch of the basements 18 x 28 space to the extreme to fit in my 25 wedgeheads.

I've been to Vic's and it is amazing how he has squeezed so many games into the basement he has. Dimensionally my basement is like 28 x 28 but when you include the stairs, furnace, half bath, closet, partition wall, etc. I have room to set up 10.

#5580 4 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I must have missed you when you came to Vic's. I'm there quite often. Did you make a pingrimage, or were you in NJ for another reason?

I squeezed in a two hour visit in March of 2011. It was high school spring break for my boys. We were going to spend a few days in Brooklyn staying with my in-laws and then on down to DC for a few days. I was at a jobsite in WV and flew out of Pittsburgh while my wife and kids flew out of KC. We all flew into Newark except my flight got in over 4 hours earlier than theirs so I made a pingramage to Vic's until my family arrived.

It was the best use of wait time ever.

Sorry I missed you.

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#5620 4 years ago

If that's a restore nice work.

If it is truly an original RF in that condition OMG.

#5626 4 years ago
Quoted from Chippewa-Pin:

I was going to guess you!

So where did you get before pictures?

#5656 4 years ago
Quoted from Electrocute:

Nice choice, still looking for El Dorado which is very similar.

The layout is where the similarities end.

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#5788 3 years ago
Quoted from Underspin:

Just finished the restoration of this '74 Magnotron I picked up from Schudel a while back.
Though I usually don't like EM's without drop targets this one is alright. It a shooter's machine all about scoring and collecting the bonus. Solid "B / B-"

Very nice work and looks to be a nice example of the game to start with.

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#5852 3 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Not sure if I shared this one yet. Saved this one from an uncertain future. Picked up from Dr. Dave. Right side of cabinet was quite trashed from deeply carved graffiti. Just a player, but pretty fun with the Atlantis layout/geometry. Ball return gate is a bit of a gimmick, but am enjoying it a lot.

Nice work on that playfield and cabinet. At first I wasn't sure what you were talking about until I saw the before pictures of the playfield.

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#5986 3 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Must be his own 2 player conversion? Keep in mind OXO is 4 player and that one is 2 player. Nothing comes up on Google for it, and there is no factory 2-player variant to OXO.

Wouldn't be difficult to limit the game to 2-player.

#6003 3 years ago
Quoted from DaveBuckholts:

I'm uncertain of using the cleaner/wax and then being able to apply a carnuba wax afterwards because the cleaner/wax contains petroleum distillates..??

That shouldn't be an issue by the time you go to apply wax. The distillates should be evaporated by then.

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#6138 3 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Yesterday's find.....
Name all of them - should be easy except for the P & B. The Sing along cab has been re-painted.

That's bucket list material for a lot of collectors. Nice find.

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#6167 3 years ago

The machine plays really well, the only small thing really wrong is that the right hand flipper is quite weak, any advice on what may be a possible cause of this would be greatly appreciated.

The first simple thing to inspect/service is the end of stroke switch. Make sure the points are clean and making good contact/wipe. Take a hard metal file to the contacts to make sure the surface is fresh.

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#6232 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I took a pass on the Eager Beaver although it was offered to me.

Another one will come along.

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#6305 3 years ago

Alex - nice find on the Majorettes. It is a challenging AAB game. FWIW, I changed out the lock bar for a mid 70's style bar to save your palms/hands. As for the caps I belive PBR has the slant top style but I would cut the chipped original deco ring away from the center cap on your game and install it to a new deco ring.

Dave - don't know if Shay has any more ED glasses. He claimed to have sold me his last one a few months ago.

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#6822 3 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

I like the different color coin lights.

Different denominations.

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#6946 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Story is this one had a malfunction very early on and went into storage where it sat for years. Very well preserved, it looks like it just came out of the box. It wasn't working right when I got it either but I could only find one thing wrong.

All it takes is one switch.

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#7013 3 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

picked this up today, really clean game. cabinet super nice and white not yellow. pf needs to be cleaned and shopped looks like it will come up nice. the plastics behind the drops have two chips upper corner but a new repro set is pretty cheap. backglass is one of the nicest i have seen on this title. normally reds are bad and faded. this has two small spot that that are starting to lift but other than that it is nice and bright not faded
anyone local who might me interested let me know, i really don't have the room.
it was just to nice to pass up. it is one of the best multiplayers imo
otherwise it will be shoved into the never ending project pile...

Great game. Kicks my ass daily and keeps me asking for more.

#7023 3 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

i am asking 800 is that priced right? i thought that was a great price considering the condition of pf,bg and cabinet.
it is one of the highest rate multi-players IMO
but i don't deal in multiplayers a lot these days.

$800 is a bargain for that game in that condition. Although if you didn't put new plastics on it or if the market is soft in your area that's about right.

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#7086 3 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

I know, NOT an EM but it has been on my down low want list for as long as i can remember.....

One wasn't enough?

#7088 3 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

i waited so long to find one, when i had the opportunity to get two i pulled the trigger. now i can say i have had every system 1 game. system ones don't get much love but they are what i cut my teeth on early on. i can't say i hated any of them even soar ride wasn't that bad imo

I'd have done the same thing.

#7106 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

OK now we have an opportunity to rank System 1 games... what's yours?

#1 Joker Poker
#1 Count Down

#7122 3 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

to be honest, I only played Annie about 20 times at a show many many years ago. I really liked it and could never find one.
I would need to put more than 20 games on it to truly put it in my top 3 system 1's
the art is killer and it had great flow. so only time will tell. I will restore the better of the two and if you are interested in the other pm me and we can talk about the other

I hope you don't need plastics for either of these games.
ebay.com link » Nos Gottlieb Asteroid Annie And The Aliens Pinball Machine Plastic Set Rare

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#7164 3 years ago
Quoted from Darcy:

You better show her more love than that. Make her wear her seat belt, Sheeesh!

My thoughts exactly.

2 months later
#7608 3 years ago

Nice work, Don. It's always satisfying bringing one back that has that one more game appeal.

#7609 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Says he got like 31 emails... yeow! Glad he honored the deal we made because it was a long trip!

Don't be fooled into thinking he honored a deal. The response I got was that they had a bid if $900 and were looking for more. You lucked out that no one bid more.

Have fun. Neat to have one of the EM versions of the System 1 games.

#7611 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I believe both versions are DC rectified.

All the EM versions of System 1 games are rectified.

Ultimately he did honor his word. Glad you got it and are happy with it.

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#7697 3 years ago
Quoted from ryansherwood:

Picked up this jungle princess today. got it half way up the stairs to my second floor apartment and just could't get it any further. the stairs are just to steep.

Take the playfield and playfield glass out of it and move them separately and you will find it quite doable.

#7700 3 years ago
Quoted from ryansherwood:

That's what I was thinking, thanks

Keep in mind the body cabinet of JP is deeper by 2-3 inches over the body cabinet of ED. If getting ED up the stairs was tight getting JP up may not be feasible, regardless of whether the playfield is pulled or not.

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#7763 3 years ago

Here's the finished playfield out of an El Dorado I'm shopping out at the moment. All original except for the flipper bats and rebuild parts. Cabinet is every bit as nice as this also.

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#7772 3 years ago
Quoted from ryansherwood:

Is the tilt switch beneath the score motor supposed to be open or closed?

Normally closed.

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#7831 3 years ago
Quoted from RWH:

I have owned a few Em's and many early SS pins and one thing I have noticed that is totally a mystery to me is the condition of PF's. I mean 95% of all the 30-50 year old Em's appear to have PF's that are in far better condition than most SS pins that are only a few years old.... I know that the older pins were coated using lacquer rather than the clear coat of today; that being said, it appears the lacquer was a much more durable and lasting medium so why would they move away from it???? Cost? Difficulty in application or what? Just curious is all. Does anyone have a definitive answer?????

My opinion is that it was a cultural shift that occurred at the same time pinball evolved from EM to SS.

Video games started coming out at the very same time and operators quickly found they could make more money with less effort routing video games and that started changing their priorities.

Before video games operators were inclined to maintain their pinball games well to keep them attractive, playing well, and earning well. As other amusement games came into fashion (video games) and the effort needed to maintain them went way down so did the consideration(efforts to keep a game nice) to keep pinball earning.

The advent of DC power to flippers and pop bumpers with the SS games contributed more wear to the playfields but we have all seen decent examples of early SS games where the operators did take adequate care of the games and it showed in their condition.

If you can, please ignore the picture below of the glorious original Gottlieb coin doors. I had started a post a couple of days ago to include them and thought I backed out of that but it appears they stayed in my cache and uploaded here. It was door day at my house this weekend. I have two El Dorados I'm working on and both doors cleaned up exceptionally well. Aren't they pretty?

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#8038 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballPianist:

This is my Balls-a-Poppin game, Bally 1956. After I found some small parts of this game at internet, I decided to build and assemble missing parts myself and reconstruct a complete Balls-a-Poppin game. I built the whole machine from scratch! (took me a year to complete project).

Nice work.
There has to be a great story behind this game that we would love to hear/see. Any chance you'd be inclined to expound on your game and the efforts you went through to create it?

#8106 2 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Man, you're right on top of things! We'll see. Maybe you'll come up with something for a trading piece..
I have the Majorettes set up, and also have both Slick Chick and Gigi, and if I was going to trade/sell
one, it would be the Gigi, although I never played either..

I actually got exposed to Majorettes, Slick Chick, and Gigi all at the same time at a collector's home over a decade ago. I found examples of all three since then and still own the Majorettes and Slick Chick. Sold the Gigi due to space and its condition wasn't the best. I have a friend that is close by that has an excellent Gigi so I can get my fix at his house.

I highly recommend not selling a game, and an iconic game at that, before you have ever really played/experienced it. Try and get some play time on it before you make your decision. I'd hate for you to find out down the road you regret selling.

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#8226 2 years ago

Golden Bells is a decent player.

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#8291 2 years ago

I smell more zipper flippers.

#8303 2 years ago

Marcus is local and he said he is waiting on STI. So can't be a Marcus game.

#8365 2 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

So I got confirmation that my game is shipped out and headed here all the way from Germany. I want to give a shout out to Xerico aka Marcus for locating this game for me and passing on the lead. The game is one of the original 80 production "Rogo"s. This was a very expensive game to acquire and I have heard that the game play is awesome. I plan to have this game restored to all its glory and NicVolta has agreed to help me with the mechanics inside the game sometime late summer or early fall. Enjoy some of the pictures that I have of the game.

Tell me this is a bad Aprils Fool.

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#8541 2 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

basket case surf champ pf before and after

Nice work Dave.

What bugs me is how nice that game was for previous owner to let it get so exposed. I know it happens but still......

I've had two games that come to mind like that where the interiors were clean enough to eat off of but the exterior had been exposed to long storage in a chicken coop in one instance and a damp sunny storage shed in another.

#8555 2 years ago
Quoted from embryonjohn:

Just picked up two pins from a body shop in Fitchburg MA. Some guy brought in his hot rod for some body work and couldn't come up with the cash to pay his bill, so the owner of the body shop took the pins as partial payment.
I only have room for one pin. Which is the better player?

I'm a Gottlieb guy and would vote for Vulcan/Fire Queen.

#8573 2 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

i am sure it will be BUT i need an intervention because i keep telling myself NO MORE projects and they keep coming in.
i just can't help myself, i need to get my pinball fix!

It won't let up until you find something else to demand your time. There's nothing quite like bringing a game back to life to live on so pinball survives for future generations.

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#8955 2 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

Bought that with the paypal "flooded basement" donations?

So he actually buys a game........after trolling here for money........and is then stupid enough to post about it here? What a dumba$$.

#8993 2 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Should clean up nicely.

That does look like it will clean up well. And it is a fun player.

#9034 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

The cab and coin door were strategically cropped out while filming the video and you can see why from the photos below. I'm hoping to re-paint the cab and de-rust/clean up the coin door/plates this summer so the game will look as good as it plays.

That coin door will clean up great. Too bad the coin chutes and entry plate are missing.

#9052 2 years ago
Quoted from bicyclenut:

I had to show all of you this. What the heck is this?
fresno.craigslist.org link

Another example of "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."

There looks to be a pretty nice Spin Out under all that wood.

#9054 2 years ago
Quoted from bicyclenut:

I really wonder if this is just on top of the original cabinet or someone made a different cabinet? Im not paying $1200 to find out.

That thought crossed my mind as well. It could possibly be the equivalent of a phone case for a pinball.

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#9108 2 years ago
Quoted from Ballypin:

On a related topic, is there a supplier that has the white plastic posts available for mid-sixties Bally's? Looks like PBR just has the faceted posts. Bay Area just shows red post but out of stock. Nothing at Marco or Pinball Life.

I think you will need to source used or old stock for the smooth posts. PBR just sells faceted and jeweled posts IIRC.

#9119 2 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

I always get thrown off a little when I see solid state components wired into an EM game. I understand rectifiers and diodes wired onto DC coils, but I don't get why I'll see capacitors or resistors sporadically wired in some places. It seems to be only on later games as well. Anyone have any insight?

Resistors have been used for driving 6V lamps off 25V solenoid circuits since at least the 60's. I've seen capacitors in the 70's for delay functions.

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#9198 2 years ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

I know this title had been getting a lot of press lately (hopefully not over-hyped), but I felt I had to share this one with the group. Not sure why, but seems like lots of nice examples around. Maybe the theme just didn't appeal the mostly teenage boy audience? This one had just over 18k plays, perfect glass with just some very, very minor work done on the body and field. Before anyone asks, it's not my game, and not for sale. Enjoy!

HUO by chance?

#9215 2 years ago
Quoted from embryonjohn:

Where does one buy this tool

Go to the hardware store with a 44 lamp and purchase the following:
1- a piece of tubing that fits snugly to the 44 bulb tip
2- a piece of dowel that fits the tubing snugly
3- some red electrical tape if you need the same effect
4- use a worn shooter tip for the opposite end under the red tape.


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#9341 2 years ago