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#9651 5 months ago
Quoted from DCRand:

Recently picked up this 4 Roses. BG is pretty rough. But the reverse wedge looks good between my two wedges. Cab was covered in decades of nicotine stains, pf pretty dirty and because game so difficult to win, someone had put posts in outlines, in three places!!!! Also had totally frozen red side stepper unit, and a couple bumper issues. Still missing chime unit and bell from backbox, so looking for replacement, but not critical now. Overall nice machine and fun but frustrating to play.

Very attractive and unique game. Love those huge lower corner plastics.

#9652 5 months ago

4 Roses is cool but violent nudging is necessary to save the ball from those tiny outlanes! I took the tilt off... helped!

#9653 5 months ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

4 Roses is cool but violent nudging is necessary to save the ball from those tiny outlanes! I took the tilt off... helped!

Yep, finding those "tiny" out lanes are like giant vacuum cleaners. And while tilt not off, the only thing left hanging through the tilt mech hole is the wire below the bob.

#9654 5 months ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I took the tilt off

#9655 5 months ago

I just finished shopping my EM Cleopatra not too long ago. One of these days, I'd like to do a proper restoration. Originally, I didn't think I'd like the gameplay so much, but after giving it some time, the game has really grown on me. Classic risk/reward strategies at play, with dangerous shots being the most valuable (going for that lit 5000 point switch is a death sentence). I also like how it's not enough just to hammer at the drop targets. You have to really aim your way back to the top to match the rollovers as well--not easy! Otherwise, you've literally completed nothing.

The best part, for me though, is the gorgeous backglass artwork. I definitely prefer it over the SS version. Oh, and the guts of the machine. Something about seeing the game jam packed with relays and switches just to accomplish the same task that the CPU of the SS version can do with ease is a testament to the ingenuity that went into these titles. I especially like the way the game mysteriously clicks and clacks as the steppers "scan" the bonus lights to find scenarios where you've matched both colors. It intelligently ignores the entire scanning process if the game doesn't sense that the player has made any matches. Pretty smart.

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#9656 5 months ago

Very nice Cleo, my SS version is jealous.

#9657 5 months ago
Quoted from SirScott:

Until you have played this one, don't judge taking the tilt off. At least that is better than the previous owner of my game who put plastic posts with rubber rings covering half the out lanes.

#9658 5 months ago
Quoted from DCRand:

Until you have played this one, don't judge taking the tilt off.

I set the tilt on 4 Roses tite when I had it so it would take real skill to succeed. Pretty much the way I have all my games.

It is called an anti cheat device for a reason, and being able to cheat at pinball takes all the fun out of it IMO.

#9659 5 months ago
Quoted from o-din:

It is called an anti cheat device for a reason, and being able to cheat at pinball takes all the fun out of it IMO.

I hear ya, but 4 Roses is awfully chancey... to the point where if you can't give it a strong nudge, the game is playing you instead of the other way around.

#9660 5 months ago

It's your game so do whatever makes you happy.

At my place we compete on single player as well as multi player games so be warned, you shake too hard, you lose.

#9661 5 months ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

4 Roses is cool but violent nudging is necessary to save the ball from those tiny outlanes! I took the tilt off... helped!

Nic...that's a cardinal sin in pinball! You might as well take off the glass too to control the ball.
All I can say is how the mighty have fallen.

#9662 5 months ago

LOL no worries... save the drama for a new daytime soap: Tilts Of Our Lives.

4 Roses wasn't getting played by anyone because it was constantly tilting. Love the artwork but gameplay-wise it felt quite different from anything else on the floor... almost like a slot-machine due to the difficulty.

Ultimately this too-chancey nature and lack of point bonus for running the red/yellow advances to the top caused it to leave the collection. Would rather get 500 points than a special for working so hard to reach the finish line. Insult to injury!

Could have installed a 500-pt relay to do the job, but in the end the geometry proved to be a bit too drainey for me.

*shrug* but hey, at least I re-installed the tilt before it left... :p

#9663 5 months ago

Nico, sorry to get you in trouble. Lol but I understand, thought my Drop a Card was one of the hardest games to play ( certainly has the most frustrating problem to track down ) but 4 Roses definetly more challenging. Even with tilt at least sensitive setting. Of course like scoring a goal in Soccer, when you do well, feels great.

#9664 5 months ago

I'm not too fond of games with wildly inconsistent scoring regardless of skill level. Generally the pros should be able to distinguish themselves most of the time except for the occasional breakout game.

Wasn't happening that way on 4 Roses. Too many 300-400 scores for the pros, and 600-900 for beginners. Is this a pinball or a slot machine?

#9665 5 months ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I'm not too fond of games with wildly inconsistent scoring regardless of skill level. Generally the pros should be able to distinguish themselves most of the time except for the occasional breakout game.
Wasn't happening that way on 4 Roses. Too many 300-400 scores for the pros, and 600-900 for beginners. Is this a pinball or a slot machine?

I find that happens with some games. When you first get it and are just batting the ball around you may have some stellar scores. Once you learn the game a bit and are focused on trying to achieve certain goals the scores can drop. Beginners may be more focused on just keeping the ball in play rather than making specific shots. It seems counterintuitive but can sometimes result in a better game.

#9666 5 months ago
Quoted from AlexF:

....Once you learn the game a bit and are focused on trying to achieve certain goals the scores can drop. Beginners may be more focused on just keeping the ball in play rather than making specific shots....

Sums up all my games. Once I understand the game my score drops. How long do I wait until it starts to rise again?

Better at restoring them I guess.

#9667 5 months ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I find that happens with some games. When you first get it and are just batting the ball around you may have some stellar scores. Once you learn the game a bit and are focused on trying to achieve certain goals the scores can drop. Beginners may be more focused on just keeping the ball in play rather than making specific shots. It seems counterintuitive but can sometimes result in a better game.

Matches my theory about how I play vs my wife.

1) She takes all the shots and will in general beat me half the time.

2) I'm a "high risk, high reward" shooter and when I'm cooking will bury her by a factor of 5x-10x when I'm on fire.

Our last game of Moon Shot she had around a 1500 score, I rolled the reels to 105,371.

#9668 5 months ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I'm not too fond of games with wildly inconsistent scoring regardless of skill level. Generally the pros should be able to distinguish themselves most of the time except for the occasional breakout game.
Wasn't happening that way on 4 Roses. Too many 300-400 scores for the pros, and 600-900 for beginners. Is this a pinball or a slot machine?

I have only had the machine for about a month, and with all the "make it easier" modifications have just this past week got the machine playing like originally designed. But finding that scores vary wildly and haven't "won" a free game since. Will keep it for a while and see how I like it long term. It does look good between the two Gottlieb Wedge heads.

#9669 5 months ago

Snangri La is unique in scoring. Everything is one at a time. Until the 300 is lit.

#9670 5 months ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Our last game of Moon Shot she had around a 1500 score, I rolled the reels to 105,371

Wow, does she still want to "compete" with you?

#9671 5 months ago
Quoted from DCRand:

I have only had the machine for about a month, and with all the "make it easier" modifications have just this past week got the machine playing like originally designed. But finding that scores vary wildly and haven't "won" a free game since. Will keep it for a while and see how I like it long term.

Hate to say it, but some games do tend to play themselves more than others. It takes time to discover whether the geometry is at fault or simply a temporary string of bad luck.

This is why I sold Flash Gordon... every other game might as well have popped open the coin door and punched me in the stomach regardless of what I did. Too chancey for me.

#9672 5 months ago

Flash Gordon is the solid state game that separates the men from the boys.

#9673 5 months ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Wow, does she still want to "compete" with you?

She is very good about it as she knows there is a good chance to beat me, usually by a small margin though.

Just when I beat her its usually a rout.

High Risk/High Reward.

#9674 4 months ago

fixable ?

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#9675 4 months ago

Well yah. In your hands I have complete confidence. I am pretty sure we have seen you resurrect much worse.

#9676 4 months ago
Quoted from boilerman:

fixable ?

Playfield looks okay and needs a scrubbing but the backbox in pieces scares me.

Good luck on the hard work for a great game!

#9677 4 months ago
Quoted from boilerman:

fixable ?

No doubt. With one hand tied behind your back even.

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#9678 4 months ago

well to be honest i got it as a parts game, it was dirt cheap. cleaned the pf to see what it would look like. it was just to nice to part out so as usual i saved it. not really to bad, as noted i saved worse. did find a nos bg and put new plastics on it and a handful of misc parts

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#9679 4 months ago

Slick Chick I'm picking up on Sunday. Guys owned it for over 40 years. Should clean up nice for a game with over 98,000 plays

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#9680 4 months ago

buying it from micheal j. fox?

Quoted from pinaholic:

Slick Chick I'm picking up on Sunday. Guys owned it for over 40 years. Should clean up nice for a game with over 98,000 plays

#9681 4 months ago

No,a guy from Brooklyn

#9682 4 months ago
Quoted from pinaholic:

No,a guy from Brooklyn

it was a joke. the picture looks like it was taken with a shaky hand

#9683 4 months ago
Quoted from boilerman:

well to be honest i got it as a parts game, it was dirt cheap. cleaned the pf to see what it would look like. it was just to nice to part out so as usual i saved it. not really to bad, as noted i saved worse. did find a nos bg and put new plastics on it and a handful of misc parts

Do I see a recently restored World Series baseball in the background? Possibly pics on that coming?
Hope so.

#9684 4 months ago
Quoted from SteveinTexas:

Do I see a recently restored World Series baseball in the background? Possibly pics on that coming?
Hope so.

sorry steve i saw you message but totally forgot. i send it asap

#9685 4 months ago
Quoted from boilerman:

well to be honest i got it as a parts game, it was dirt cheap. cleaned the pf to see what it would look like. it was just to nice to part out so as usual i saved it. not really to bad, as noted i saved worse. did find a nos bg and put new plastics on it and a handful of misc parts

You sir are doing God's work. Surf Champ is one of my all time favorites. Very nice to see all the love and work you put into saving it. Looks beautiful.

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#9686 4 months ago

Touch ups, check. Clear coat, check. Cabinet repaint, check. Mechanicals - check. Currently troubleshooting, this Gulfstream is just about ready for the York show - one of the fastest EMs ever built - simple but deadly, just the way I like 'em!

Looking forward to yet another wonderful show, see everyone in less than a week!!!

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#9687 4 months ago

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#9688 4 months ago
Quoted from Dono:

Touch ups, check. Clear coat, check. Cabinet repaint, check. Mechanicals - check. Currently troubleshooting, this Gulfstream is just about ready for the York show - one of the fastest EMs ever built - simple but deadly, just the way I like 'em!
Looking forward to yet another wonderful show, see everyone in less than a week!!!

Great Job. My Gulfstream restoration was a nightmare. I put about 150 hours into mine and yours looks pretty damn good. Can we see more pic's of the PF? First machine I bought without playing it first. I had an opportunity to pick up a project machine at a good price and a few pinsiders told me grab it, I will not regret it. I love this machine. Addictive play and truly one of my favorites.

#9689 4 months ago
Quoted from Dono:

Touch ups, check. Clear coat, check. Cabinet repaint, check. Mechanicals - check. Currently troubleshooting, this Gulfstream is just about ready for the York show - one of the fastest EMs ever built - simple but deadly, just the way I like 'em!
Looking forward to yet another wonderful show, see everyone in less than a week!!!

I'm looking forward to playing such a nice example, played this title alot back in the day.

I played your Cleopatra at Allentown and that was very nicely done.

#9690 4 months ago

Picked this one up today. Should have set up in a couple hours:)

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#9691 4 months ago

Sea Wolf? Lucky dog.

#9692 4 months ago

Wow, very cool - way to go! Can't wait to see more of it.

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#9693 4 months ago

Haven't had a local pickup in a while, but this one was worth it!

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#9694 4 months ago

Yea! Bow and Arrow. Mine has too many others ahead in line for resto.

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#9695 4 months ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Sea Wolf? Lucky dog.

Quoted from bek1966:

Wow, very cool - way to go! Can't wait to see more of it.

Yep moved things around and did some horse trading with dirtflipper:) A real nice one I think.

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#9696 4 months ago

What a great looking game - nice addition to your collection!

Brad

#9697 4 months ago

a step up from team one on looks alone.....

#9698 4 months ago

I never minded the art with Team One, but I did contemplate making 'long hair decals' for the players on the bg and pf. Might've looked good. Yes/no?

Sea Wolf took World Fair's place, which was then moved next to your old Buckaroo, Dave. Looks great I think.

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#9699 4 months ago

Possibly moving this guy ina trade but wanted to take a video of Normal operation!

» YouTube video

#9700 4 months ago
Quoted from presqueisle:

I never minded the art with Team One, but I did contemplate making 'long hair decals' for the players on the bg and pf. Might've looked good. Yes/no?

You could have put some longer, looser pants on those dudes and that might have helped.

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