Looks great! I would high-tap it if you haven't already, nothing like full voltage on a Williams if all of the parts are dialed in.
Looks great! I would high-tap it if you haven't already, nothing like full voltage on a Williams if all of the parts are dialed in.
The Bally Surfer really brought back memories of a time on a NC fishing pier playing one, thanks for the photos!
Phil-lee
Whereabouts in NC? Growing up, our family vacationed in mid and late 70's on the Outer Banks in Rodanthe next to the fishing pier. No games on the pier but they built a rec hall right next to it and I remember Nip-It, Chicago Coin Casino and a few others. Tons more at an arcade in Nags Head.
Quoted from swinks:If the C-587-6 does not work and there is a slight difference, happy to tweak the design to suit what you need and make it available for you
Thanks, I'll let you know when I do the full teardown if it fits.
There is another similar looking but larger white rollover button that is on a lot of bally EM's. I didnt see them at the usual suppliers so they may be another candidate for a repro.
The first pic below shows the little rollover buttons (there are 3 in each ship) and the larger rollover buttons below the ships. The second pic shows some more of the larger rollover buttons at the top of the game. Cosmos has a lot of rollover buttons.
On a related topic, is there a supplier that has the white plastic posts available for mid-sixties Bally's? Looks like PBR just has the faceted posts. Bay Area just shows red post but out of stock. Nothing at Marco or Pinball Life.
Quoted from Ballypin:On a related topic, is there a supplier that has the white plastic posts available for mid-sixties Bally's? Looks like PBR just has the faceted posts. Bay Area just shows red post but out of stock. Nothing at Marco or Pinball Life.
Have you called PBR? A phone call might find what you need?
Quoted from Ballypin:On a related topic, is there a supplier that has the white plastic posts available for mid-sixties Bally's? Looks like PBR just has the faceted posts. Bay Area just shows red post but out of stock. Nothing at Marco or Pinball Life.
I think you will need to source used or old stock for the smooth posts. PBR just sells faceted and jeweled posts IIRC.
Quoted from mikeincali:A-Go-Go. Just picked this up a few days ago after seeing one at PAGG. Can hardly wait to set it up and get to work on it..
Very fun game. Congrats!
Quoted from mikeincali:A-Go-Go.
You going to bring it to Dixon or Lodi next time
since there seems to be a split among the factions
relating to pinball shows in the Delta.
Quoted from Ballypin:Phil-lee
Whereabouts in NC? Growing up, our family vacationed in mid and late 70's on the Outer Banks in Rodanthe next to the fishing pier. No games on the pier but they built a rec hall right next to it and I remember Nip-It, Chicago Coin Casino and a few others. Tons more at an arcade in Nags Head.
The Arcade at Nags Head was legendary,still dream of that place. Dolphin Pier at Topsail had good machines,so did Emerald Isle fishing pier. We spent a lot of time at the Outer Banks and I can't remember a Pier that didn't have at least a couple of machines.
My Family fished, I mostly hammered the machines.
I know I played this machine, but the fog of time has taken the specific place from me. It may have been at Iron Steamer Pier.
Finally got around to shopping a lovely originalC37 which I purchased from hoov (terrific A1 seller) awhile back. The machine has the best playfield in my collection, 100% bg & was a pleasure 'to shop'.
As is always the case after a shop (clean & x5 wax of the pf) the machine plays fast & true.
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I always get thrown off a little when I see solid state components wired into an EM game. I understand rectifiers and diodes wired onto DC coils, but I don't get why I'll see capacitors or resistors sporadically wired in some places. It seems to be only on later games as well. Anyone have any insight?
Quoted from mbaumle:but I don't get why I'll see capacitors or resistors sporadically wired in some places.
I am pretty sure my woodrail WMS Golden Bells from 1959
has at least one resistor wired between a couple of relays,
so electronic components have been around pinball for a while.
Sometimes capacitors and such were used to incorporate a delay component into the games logic.
My 1960 Williams 21 has one. Mine gets real hot, maybe too hot. Normal to be really really hot?
And a beautiful C37!!
Quoted from mbaumle:I always get thrown off a little when I see solid state components wired into an EM game. I understand rectifiers and diodes wired onto DC coils, but I don't get why I'll see capacitors or resistors sporadically wired in some places. It seems to be only on later games as well. Anyone have any insight?
Late-era Gottlieb em's were using some new design functions of System 1 SS's in some ways - DC rectified components - flippers, pops, kickers, etc., for instance.
Somewhere around 1977
Quoted from mbaumle:I always get thrown off a little when I see solid state components wired into an EM game. I understand rectifiers and diodes wired onto DC coils, but I don't get why I'll see capacitors or resistors sporadically wired in some places. It seems to be only on later games as well. Anyone have any insight?
Resistors have been used for driving 6V lamps off 25V solenoid circuits since at least the 60's. I've seen capacitors in the 70's for delay functions.
Quoted from pinwiztom:Sometimes capacitors and such were used to incorporate a delay component into the games logic.
Quoted from MikeO:Resistors have been used for driving 6V lamps off 25V solenoid circuits since at least the 60's.
Quoted from hoov:Late-era Gottlieb em's were using some new design functions of System 1 SS's in some ways
Interesting. I think the first time I noticed solid state components on an EM game was on my Chicago Coin Hollywood. It has, what looks like, small non polarized electrolytic caps wired into each score reel solenoid. In retrospect, I guess it's purpose was to keep the coil energized just a hair longer so it can register quick switch closures. I think.
Still, it's interesting.
I picked up this 1969 Williams Kick Off on Wednesday. There was a tiny bit of flaking on the yellows of the backglass but otherwise it looks good and the playfield looks great. No wear around the kickout hole which is good. Everything plays surprisingly fast, from the slingshots to the flippers it is great fun.
In fact my 9-year old has declared it her favorite pinball table! That may have to do with the fact that she beat her older brothers score thanks to a kickoff return for a touchdown, lol. We will put a lot of play on this one.
Looks good. Kickoff was my favorite too for a long time. It was set up with just the right threshold for added balls. Every time I played it, it felt like I was flying by the seat of my pants. You really had to fight for it. Earning another ball was like going into overtime (appropriately). Just trying to stay alive long enough to get a good score. Breaking 4000 was really something.
I see someone added a couple posts protecting the outlanes. I have seen that before on this title. They are brutal without them. Which to me is part of the frustrating fun but you may like to keep them.
Quoted from Matesamo:I picked up this 1969 Williams Kick Off on Wednesday.
Just a little note, it's a 1967 which I also once had set up, and I'm sure one of these days will have room
to have it set up again. My main goal was getting high points. I could be wrong, but I think 56 points
was my high. A great little 2" flipper Williams..
Quoted from AlexF:I see someone added a couple posts protecting the outlanes. I have seen that before on this title. They are brutal without them. Which to me is part of the frustrating fun but you may like to keep them.
You are correct! I just googled some photos and they are not part of the original layout, I did not even notice. This game would be NASTY without those, lol. Even with them, they are placed very well and the ball sneaks through the upper game pretty regular. I will probably leave them as the holes would be a little unsightly.
Quoted from Mopar:Just a little note, it's a 1967 which I also once had set up, and I'm sure one of these days will have room
to have it set up again. My main goal was getting high points. I could be wrong, but I think 56 points
was my high. A great little 2" flipper Williams..
I had a little brain fart there, I knew it was fifty years old so no idea why I said 1969. It has been very well received by the family which is always a nice thing after a long drive and moving it into the basement.
Quoted from AlexF:Looks good. Kickoff was my favorite too for a long time. It was set up with just the right threshold for added balls. Every time I played it, it felt like I was flying by the seat of my pants. You really had to fight for it. Earning another ball was like going into overtime (appropriately). Just trying to stay alive long enough to get a good score. Breaking 4000 was really something.
I see someone added a couple posts protecting the outlanes. I have seen that before on this title. They are brutal without them. Which to me is part of the frustrating fun but you may like to keep them.
I have an unmolested Touchdown (win a credit version) and the outlanes are brutal but part of the attraction, I have broken 5000 a few times but its tough and I like my games with some rake to them so it plays fast.
Quoted from bek1966:Nice Kickoff! I really like the artwork on this one - playfield and backglass.
The artwork is very good, from the unknown artist,
but the hands on one of the cheerleaders look a bit awkward.
I also like the atomic power bumper caps.
I'm pretty excited about a recent pick-up I made,
a 1965 Bally Sheba! I think she'll look great next to my 1964 Bally Hay-Ride, with art by the same mind-bogglingly talented Bally mystery artist: IMG_20170518_202236 (resized).jpgIMG_20170519_225146 (resized).jpgIMG_20170518_202644 (resized).jpgIMG_20170518_202631 (resized).jpgIMG_20170518_202618 (resized).jpgIMG_20170518_202608 (resized).jpg
Quoted from RyanClaytor:I'm pretty excited about a recent pick-up I made,
a 1965 Bally Sheba! I think she'll look great next to my 1964 Bally Hay-Ride, with art by the same mind-bogglingly talented Bally mystery artist:
That is a sweet looking table!
Quoted from gdonovan:That is a sweet looking table!
You're preaching to the choir, Gdonovan! Even the lined arcs on the plastics are printed with metallic gold. It's really a sight to behold. Anyhow, thanks for the kudos.
The girl in the center on the backglass looks like Barbra Eden from "I Dream of Jeannie" the tv show.
Great find and very nice condition too.
Love them yellow score reels!
Quoted from TopMoose:Memorial Day weekend means it's time for my biannual shop job!
Nice games. Where are you buying the color rubber rings?
Quoted from Vic_Camp:The girl in the center on the backglass looks like Barbra Eden from "I Dream of Jeannie"
except the BG Sheba is showing her belly button.
BG looks great, except for those few areas along the bottom lift channel
and some freckling/foxing on some of the skin tones.
PF looks very good also
Quoted from Vic_Camp:Nice games. Where are you buying the color rubber rings?
Titanpinball.com
Quoted from dasvis:The women on the backglass look very similar to the ones on Bally bingo pins, perhaps same artist?
Here's a few shots from my United Tropic's early 1950's bingo pinball.
Could be the same artist?
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That looks more like Molentin to me. I would describe his style as elegant but simple. The mystery artist is also elegant but seems to ramp up the detail. In my subjective opinion of course.
Quoted from AlexF:That looks more like Molentin to me. I would describe his style as elegant but simple. The mystery artist is also elegant but seems to ramp up the detail. In my subjective opinion of course.
Completely agree.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:I'm pretty excited about a recent pick-up I made,
a 1965 Bally Sheba! I think she'll look great next to my 1964 Bally Hay-Ride, with art by the same mind-bogglingly talented Bally mystery artist:
Hard game to find. Nice nab! Always liked that one. I have the lower part of the four player version, "Campus Queen". I need the head for it; preferably an English language version.
Quoted from AlexF:That looks more like Molentin to me. I would describe his style as elegant but simple. The mystery artist is also elegant but seems to ramp up the detail. In my subjective opinion of course.
Quoted from RyanClaytor:Completely agree.
Good eyes. I knew enough that it wasn't Christian Marche anyway.
Now if there were a Bingo with Pointy People I'd have to own it ! That would be cool LOL
Quoted from Vic_Camp:The girl in the center on the backglass looks like Barbra Eden from "I Dream of Jeannie" the tv show.
Great find and very nice condition too.
Love them yellow score reels!
She does look like Barbara Eden! Vic, we are showing our age.....
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Almost forgot about this but when I went to pick up my jacks open in new jersey about 15 miles where I picked it up from there was a black sign along the road that said I buy pinball and a phone number.
Quoted from oldcarz:She does look like Barbara Eden! Vic, we are showing our age.....
My old boss bought her house from her back in 1989. I was working for him at that time. It was kind of a trip walking around that house thinking Barbra Eden walk these halls. She sold the house because the town would not let her put in a heliport in the backyard. I still drive pass there about once a week.
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