I was able to get a topper from cointaker at normal price. Dunno if they have any more. Now for me to actually find the damn game....

Well im glad I was able to help some folks! No someone find me a reasonably priced premium to go with my new topper!

New EHOH here as of today. Question about the stern shooter rod. I installed it and the ball just barely makes it up and into one of those lanes. No way I could do skill shot. Anyone else have that? Im guessing maybe wrong spring? What color spring is best for the game?

yea ill check that. Seems square but ill make sure. if not stronger spring it is

So I switched the spring and the little springy thing on the outside part of the plunger and saw a bit of improvement. But it seems the ball is getting slowed down or rattles a bit halfway/ 2/3rds of way up the shooter lane before the turn. So I dont know if anyone had issues there and had to adjust anything.

Also question about the left orbit. Where should the ball hit when coming from left orbit?

hrm. I dont think its that. It slows down before it gets there and the auto launch has no issues at all. but ill check it out after work. thanks

So new owner for about a week
Now. Today the game started having an issue. Some switch is being activated when it shouldnt. Only way i can describe is it triggers a “swoosh” sound that is the same sound that happens when you plunge.

Sometimes when i hit start it plunges right away which means a switch is being activated. And many times i hit the flippers and i get that “swoosh” sound and it gives me points.

Anyone know which switch that is and what to do? Its not the slings i know that. But id figure it would be somewhere close to a flipper.

I believe it may be the rollover in the shooter lane. When i press that down it makes that sound. But when i look under the cabinet i dont see anything different really.

Any help?

It seems the left ramp makes a similar noise as well it that helps? Maybe opto up there?

To tell you the truth I still never know what Im looking for in stern switch test. Ill try to figure it out. The switches all work it seems, just theres one thats going off randomly when other things happen. Could it be a leaf switch on a coil somewhere maybe im wondering?

Thanks ill check the optos. The two thinfs that make that sound are trough rollover and left ramp. So maybe left ramp opto is loose.

Side note i like JJPs menus for switches

Thanks! At least this is a little problem. Alien has been bricked for a month!

So interesting development. Switch test doesnt work. I go into switch test and the flippers dont work or anything else. Does that mean anything?

I really think its the rollover in the shooter lane. But when i look at it it seems fine

Im and idiot in switch test i didnt pull the darn white knob. But i still cant re create the issue in switch test….ugh

Cant recreate by smacking it. I just get the tilt. Im
Pretty sure its the rollover in shooter lane. Sometimes the game gives me 30 points and the swoosh sound before i even plunge. And when that happens usually it goes into ball search eventually before i even plunge

This time on ball one it gave me 30 points and the noise before plunging. But it hasnt gone into ball search yet.

Only thing ive noticed with the optos is the lasers arent lined up with the holes in the plastic. But they still seem to work fine. And they are not loose.

Ok good point. Those may be a pain to adjust. Hopefully those guides come off easy without too much bother.

Ifs 30 points that seems to happen randomly. Many times when i hit the flippers. And it has a swoosh sound with it

Ok thanks. Yea it seems that circuit board has no chance of the laser hitting the holes as its just bot long enough.

It probably is the left ramp return opto. It makes the right sound and the laser is lined up over plastic and not the hole. I unscrewed the ramp and wiped it down really good. Its not dirty. Well see if that helps. But the otpo is very securely attached. And i dont want to drill a hole!

In my case i think that would block the light totally because the hole is like a cm away

what do you mean by that? Can youu send me a a pic of the opto and the other side? Where on the other side should the light be hitting? Is there a certain spot? Maybe they arent lined up perfectly?

And yea when im in test mode I cant re create it

i know it triggers the sound. Ill double check if it triggers the points. this is the left return ramp opto

Ill take a pic of mine shortly. Would just like to see what normal looks like

I mean the red light is off from the hole. Are you saying the red light is not the actual opto switch light that tips the switch? If thats the case it may be aligned correctly after all

ty for that

Guys im back finally trying to diagnose this switch that is going off when i hit the flippers.

So many think its the opto on the left ramp. I believe that is the ramp return opto. That switch works fine when i run my finger by in switch test. But there seems to be some kind of opto on the ramp entrance as well right?

That does not trigger anything when i run my finger past it. Could that be misaligned?

And the game randomly awards 30 points usually when hitting flippers. It makes the same sound that the left return opto does.

I just cant recreate it in switch test

Ok its not the left ramp return opto because rhat gives like 40k points. This is 30 points…

So in switch test i can only get it to register by pressing on the ranp metal near the hole and touching the receiver. If thats the case im guessing its not aligned well?

Ok. Maybe found something. The left ramp. The left side of the ramp(i guess the guardrail on the left as the ball goes up) has some play to it. I can move it back and forth a mm or so easily. Is everyone elses ramp left side loose like that?

Maybe when i hit the flippers that inside rail moves and hits the left ramp entrance opto?

Hey pinmonk. Thanks for the help. Its definetly that opto. But i can only trigger the opto by actually touching the reciever on the left side. I cant make my finger going up the ramp do it….

Ok. I can manuever it a bit to get the red light to come on and it works. But when i screw it down its doesnt work again. Maybe i need super tiny washers

Holy crap its so sensitive. I had it perfect. And while putting the left return ramp back on the red light went off…..Mfer…

Ok. I think i got it! Its definetly that opto. I got it all lined up. For now. Lets see if it lasts

Thanks everyone

I thought of that too.

Side note. When is the topper suppossed to activate with elvira popping out? Dunno if it has happened during the game but then again im not looking up

Ugh! Here i thought i had it fixed as it was fine fir a few games. The opto is fine but something else is making that swooshing sound and awarding 30 points randomly. Ugh!

What gives 30 points in this game each time?

Just did that. It is the left ramp opto as we thought. My guess is the inside of left ramp is shaking a bit causing the metal to cover the light and trigger it. Is the inside of the ramp suppossed to have give to it? I can move it with my hand back and forth a bit easily

Ok the ramp doesnt visually move when flipping. But i did notice the red opto light blink off for a quick second while flipping.

So i would think its tint movements in the metal ramp that causes the laser to see the ramp thinking its a ball. Though when i move the ramp with my hand the switch does not go off…

switch test confirms its that left ramp entry opto. Heres a video of what I mean the left ramp diveder has movement: https://i.imgur.com/Q3QfyEH.mp4

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So im in test now and almost every flipper hit makes the left entry opto go off. And the red light doesnt even blink and it still goes off.

So maybe this is board related somehow? Or the opto is just bad? Hoping its not the whole opto as I dont want to de asemble the whole left side to install a new one

Nope. Flippers and the opto are both on node 8 and the wiring is right next to eachother… just reseatted everything and re trying

Even after reseatting wires its still happening.

In switch test i cant even recreate it by touching the opto or the ramp jiggling.

Itll switch if i run my finger up ramp or every 3-10 flips on either flipper

The opto is working, its just randomly awarding a lot as well. I dont care about 30 points here and there, if i could just selectively turn off that sound effect id do it!

Hehe that is a lot of work for a relatively small but annoying problem. The red light appears to be on the whole entire time….
And i cant recreate it manually by touching the opto or the ramp. Only with the flippers or my finger running up tripping the wire.

The optos are not loose. Ive clamped them down where i find them to be working. And even when i loosen them and re adjust its the same result.

Can you take a bunch of pics of that opto on your game(both sides) and see how they line up?

Maybe ill post on facebook and hope that Gomez responds like he sometimes does. Heh

So just discovered that the auto launch will sometimes trigger it as well. And the pop bumpers. So basically violent coils are making the left ramp entry opto fire despite it seemingly being installed flawlessly…they are screwed on well!
I cant recreate this by touching the opto board or the outside of ramp

Im sure i could do that. But it really seems that the beam is in tact. And i CANT recreate this by touching the opto itself or by touching and moving the ramp metal. So i doubt its that right?

Yea. But wouldnt me moving the ramp and pressing on the opto itself simulate that?

Can you send me a pic of how yours look?

Thanks for all the help btw.

I took off the left return plastic ramp to get access and i jiggled it around all directions the most i could. It doesnt seem to have any play at all. The only thing that has play is the inside of the metal ramp if you saw the video i linked to. But when i do that by hand nothing happens either…ugh!

Sorry had to sleep. Earlier in the night i would see some flicker. But after adjusting many times i think i have it lined up properly and i dont believe its flickering anymore. But it could be so quick i cant see it

Just checked. From what i can see the light does not flicker. But if its just for a micro second maybe i cant perceive it?

Well i did some more attempts at re aligning the left ramp entrance opto and thought i had it perfect. Switch test was great. No more left ranp entrance opto going off. Put balls in and seemed to go ok. Then put glass on and its back to the same bullshit. Ugh!!!

Yea i had tried that as well. Nothing. I also did your straw connection and it seems aligned. If anything the left side of the opto is just the slightest bit to the right. But if that were an issue you would think jiggling the left side of the ramp would cause it to trigger. But it doesnt.

I forgot about this. Which one is rx and which is tx? The one with the purple light is on right

Am I putting the black tape on the outside of the ramp? Or the inside? Id rather not have it too visable. Thanks!

Will do. Thanks

Yea im at my wits end. I did order replacements. But wonder how much stuff i need to remove to replace them

Black tape didnt work. I cant recreate it by shaking ramp. Only by coils AND by repeatedly tapping the back of the reciever. Like flicking it with my finger.

If its alignment. If anything i think the receiver may be set just a tad high. How would i lower it without shaving down the black plastic on the opto where the screws go?

Left side is receiver. So i actually just unscrewed the plastic part from the circuit and pressed on it as much as i could while acrewing back together. Just trying to get the sensor sitting a bit lower. And that just passed switch test and i think one game. About to try another.

In the end i bet it is a bad solder. When i flick the receiver with my finger i can make it go off.

Soooo i dont want to jinx myself here…….but i think i got it? At least for now. Switch test passed and just played a few games with no issues. At least that ive noticed. So im not going to touch that damn glass for a while and just hope its good to go. Maybe that tiny bit i was able to move the reciever down did it….

Thanks for everyones help. Hopefully i dont come back tomorrow!

Just had my best game yet. ~2.2b. Beat they came from space. Is that the final wizard mode and considered “beating the game”. Or do you have to do it multiple times?

Ah darn. What qualifies that?

Nm. I missed phone a friend. Got it

Ive owned all those 3 games including bksor twice. Alien looks and sounds great but is a meh game to me. I dont love wide bodies. And as you ask about before Alien may be a pain in the ass. Mine was down about 2 months after playing 20 games. I think the PB system is a bit iffy and the experience made me stay away from Queen(a dream theme for me). Though their support is incredible and very responsive.

I really enjoy BK LE and EHOH. Bk le and pro are very different games and some prefer the pro. LE is easier.
I really enjoy my Ehoh, but I dont think its AS good as its rating. Its good, but very linear like BK. And its an easier game so I have to be in the mood for a long playing game before starting(kind of like deadpool).

Ill say this though. EHoH will be harder to re-acquire if you miss it. Especially an LE.

Glad you changed your ad to trade for a Toy Story CE instead of LE. Toy Story is selling well below msrp right now and Ehoh well over msrp. And baywatch is a fun game.

If its a smaller run the worst premiums come down to is the 10500 new price probably. There still arent many. And this game probably compares closer to bm66 than other premiums.