That’s unfortunate as Elvira’s sexy innuendo was one of my favorite things in SS. Maybe there are hidden/unused Elvira clips in the ROM that could be unlocked with Pinball Browser in the future? Wishful thinking anyway. The “I’m having multiple jackpots” and “Don’t worry...I’ll get him up” call outs in SS always put a smile on my face, lol. Kinda missing my SS now...hopefully HOH ends up filling the void

Jeez, sure are a lot of these in the market right now. Don’t know if people are bored with it just trying to cash in on the low supply high demand right now.

Based on the prices, looks like yes

Yep. There’s a premium listed as sale pending at $9200. another listed for $8600. well liked the game and lack of new supply. LEs likely will be hard to find. Even when stern makes more premiums, if they do, my guess is it would only be a small run. I had thought about selling mine a couple of months ago, but couldn’t part with it.

Wow. I paid $9200 for my LE, and it was new! No way I’d sell though. That game may never leave.

I have a LE for sale for 25K
Or just a picture of it for $100

No just kidding, sorry for all that are waiting on this game. Really hope Stern will make some of these inthe near future. But listening to Gary I really wonder if they are going to do that.

Don’t believe it until they are on the line. Plans can change..

Can I join the club if I only have the topper and shooter rod? lol
I plan on getting the game but don't have space at the moment. I had FOMO with the topper and ordered one so I know that I will have one when I get my game.

FYI. stern is bumping the price of Elvira HOH and BM66 by $500.00

need to decide on keeping my order or canceling. any advise would be helpful

Where did you hear this?

It’s true. Was just notified about this as well.

Maybe they are including the topper.

Wow. Glad we have one, but I'd still buy at that price if I was looking. Such a great game

I paid $8,000 for used just last month so it is probably still worth keeping NIB order. Supply will still be limited I imagine.

That’s hilarious

So this would include people that have existing deposits down? That's a little awkward for distos who already promised a specific price. I guess that they have so much demand, they have to find a way to shake some orders off.

I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of prices going up this year.

I just got the same news from my distributor. This even applies to existing orders that have not yet shipped. =(

I just canceled my order. Between that and the tax, it was too much for me. Hopefully I'll pick one up some day.

If everyone would cancel we could take control of this price increase craziness but I know that is not happening so I am keeping my order.

I’m leaning towards cancelling my order as well. Game seems cool but that’s just bad business. Not to mention playfield issues have not been resolved with stern. I have 2 recent NIB Sterns with playfield issues.

I am disappointed as hell, but what can you do. I am picking up another newer Stern for quite a bit lower than what they are selling new...so we'll see if that happens again. Let someone else take the hit.

Just got the call too. Everyone probably will as they seem to be confirming people are cancelling or keeping their orders. This next run is going to be limited to these orders only I'll bet. Shaping up to be a pretty rare game.

Wow that’s fucked. I get that margins are smaller than other games but to up the price knowing full well many people have deposits down is gross.

Confirmed. Just emailed my distributor.

This should get very interesting for those with deposits in...they gonna be furious.

If everyone pulled deposits they just wouldn’t run the game period. It’s looking like my theory that EHOH is too costly for them to make money on is true. That’s got to be the reason why they’ve only produced 1070 of them so far. The demand is there but it doesn’t benefit the company to continue to produce when they can just crank out a bunch of bare bones Led Zeppelin’s sell thousands and make a killing.

This 100%. They’ll do one more run if you pay up. If deposits get pulled then no more ehoh for you. On to the next one.

yes all existing orders get the price increase. Im guessing both BM66 and elvira HOH aren’t big sellers and this will probably be a last run since they are about 6,000 games behind but hopefully since they hired more workers they will catch up soon.

If they want to do a price increase for new orders, fine (even though $500 is outrageous). However, jacking up prices retroactively on orders they've had for months, keep pushing back, and where deposits have been made is just unethical.

This is a direct result of people willing to pay $1k for items like toppers. Gary Stern has convinced himself pinball demand and prices are inelastic.

Well, Gary, Covid won't last forever and people are going to shift their money towards travel and other interests come summer and fall. Gouge customers for short term gain, it will eventually catch up to you.

What BS! Stern, your losing my respect more and more. Last 2 games I’ve spent good money on and they have NOT been Sterns. My third very soon will also NOT be a Stern.

So now what to do. I put a deposit down last year based on a set a price. Now $500 more is just insane. So because Stern jacked the price up will this allow me to get back my non refundable deposit back then? I am really not happy about this.

The family and I really love this pin. Since so few out there and it holding its value, I don’t want to pay near new price for a used one if one even comes up for sale near me. Looks like Stern wants to lighten up their production schedule apparently.

Does anyone else think this is the start of changing Studio vs Cornerstone pricing long term? Maybe $8,500 and $10-11k vs the pro, premium and LE pricing.

Anyone in California want to sell me your EHOH? Or trade for AFM LE ?? Let’s do this

I was given the option to cancel and refund or transfer

It's a shame Stern did this. JJP kept the WOZECLE price at$6500 for the first 500 even though they lost money. Still, this game is worth it. At least they could throw in another toy and powder coat for the extra $500. Maybe call it the X edition.

Thanks for letting me know. Appreciate it. I am not happy and they should at least give us something extra besides an extra $500 in their pockets.

That’s a bunch of crap not honoring their original price from literally last year when deposits were taken. If this was a vault edition made a few years later than fine, but 11 days into 2021 they jack it up $500 more. That’s just a really shitty business practice. Guess they want a big cut of our lousy $600 stimulus check.

I am new to pinball since 2019 and Stern really soured me to them in 2021. So much for hoping 2021 would be better. Not a good start. My family I love this game, but man this is just crap that this now jacks a premium over $8k. I hope this price will not be the new normal and they are testing the waters.

If people pay it, it will almost certainly become the new normal.

I don’t buy that an Elvira Premium costs Stern more than other Premiums. But if this only applies to Batman and Elvira it seems like an effort to either capitalize on demand or drive those titles from production- not sure which.

At this point it probably is both. I really think they don’t want to go back to making them both any longer since it’s been speculated they are way behind as it is for pins just from last year on top of Led Zeppelin added to the mix. Wanting to get rid of EHOH and B66 that they are not making much money on makes business sense, but sucks for us who want either title.

EHOH most definitely costs Stern more to make than most other premiums. 4 ball lock mechanisms (most games have one) Two Motors (most have zero) Lifting ramp, rotating deadheads door (not other games had this) Advanced Color changing spotlights in three areas, two diverters, entire house toy...man...the list goes on. They spared no expense on this title.

I think my pride is kicking in even though I really want it as does the wife and kids. My wife is going to think about keeping the preorder or cancel it. This sucks.

This is a test balloon - if people go for it, EHOH and B66 go back on the line. If people don't go for it, they don't. I certainly sympathize with potential owners who feel like they're getting scammed by Stern, but from a business standpoint, this is literally you voting with your wallet. If you vote no, another game goes on the line. Considering both B66 and EHOH are Lyman games, maybe he needs to start working on the next boutique game and this is a way to decide which direction to go in.

How much is a premium in Canadian funds now?

Rob

I think the test balloon was the $1000 topper that sold out quickly. At least they didn't try to squeeze another $200 on top of that.

I was surprised LZ topper was only $850. I was expecting at least $1500

The part that is most infuriating as a customer, is obvious. Those of us had deposits on a specific SET PRICE. These were ostensibly to be fulfilled in October. My deposit was paid in September. Then out of the blue, we’re told that they will not be fulfilled/delivered until March. Disappointing but it happens. Then the only info now is delivery later than march and oh, that original price that you paid your deposit for? No, that deal is gone. No explanation. Just, bc they felt like it?? This is terrible business. I frankly don’t care if their profit margin is smaller than they would like on these 2 titles. This is a horrible way to treat loyal customers who pay insane amounts of money for these machines. It’s wrong. It’s kind of mean-spirited. Absolutely, they should be honoring the original price that customers laid deposits down for! This is outrageous. I can’t see rationalizing this in to any kind of acceptable business practice.

Actually they did, they removed a ramp that was originally in the design.

For "what crazy price will people pay?!" , definitely. I was talking about manufacturing though - the topper is outsourced isn't it?

No kidding, I can’t even imagine where another ramp would even fit in this game. Any idea what the original design looked like?

Wasn't the ramp change in the design/shape rather than removal?