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Elvira Party Monster: F4 Fuse Blows on Aux Board

By Xerico

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

Hi.

I recently acquired an Elvira And The Party Monsters (EATPM).

I am having an issue where the F4 Fuse keeps blowing.

The drop targets work 1-2 times, and the upkick works a couple of times with a fresh fuse.
Then the fuse will blow.

I checked the coils and they are in good shape.
The wiring looks a little dirty, but no bare wire or anything.

Since I have not worked on a Sys11 game in a while, any tips on where to start would be great.

Thanks.

#2 7 years ago

I had the same fuse blowing on my Mousin Around when I first got it. It ended up being an issue on one of the boards. I sent out the main board and driver board to be tested and repaired. I don't exactly know what was done but it solved the problem.

#3 7 years ago
Quoted from Xerico:

I am having an issue where the F4 Fuse keeps blowing.

Is this on the power supply or aux power supply, since you are checking coils then I think it's the aux power supply. Why don't you try putting in a new fuse and then go to coil test and repeat at each of the 50volt coils while watching the fuse. When you get to the bad coil you will see the fuse pulse and glow as the coil fires. This should narrow it down to which coil circuit to check.

#4 7 years ago

Now I see you have AUX in the title....

#5 7 years ago

I will give that approach a try tomorrow when I return to troubleshooting.

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Thanks for the tips!

Marcus

#6 7 years ago

Nice find!

#7 7 years ago

Update.

Shorted coil on right slings and melted coil (wrong size) on boogie men caused the fuse issue.

I will be ordering the coils this week and that should bring EATPM up to 100%.

She is playing right now as The power to bad coils has been snipped.

I will be rebuilding the flippers and getting some nice Titan glow in the dark rubbers.

She will be taking a trip to TPF to meet Cassandra.

Marcus

#8 7 years ago
Quoted from Xerico:

Shorted coil on right slings and melted coil (wrong size) on boogie men caused the fuse issue

You need to replace the diodes on the aux power supply for these bad coils too.

#9 7 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

You need to replace the diodes on the aux power supply for these bad coils too.

Thanks for the tip. I will also order some new diodes.

To better educate myself, I am curious as to why this is necessary. Please elaborate.

Thank you!

Marcus

#10 7 years ago

I have found that when a coil locks on even for a short time a large amount of current flows thru the coil in excess of 10 amps. This over stresses the diode and if it goes bad it will ruin the driver, predriver and the new coil your installing. In my opinion it not worth .07 cents and 5 minutes of your time to replace.

#11 7 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

I have found that when a coil locks on even for a short time a large amount of current flows thru the coil in excess of 10 amps. This over stresses the diode and if it goes bad it will ruin the driver, predriver and the new coil your installing. In my opinion it not worth .07 cents and 5 minutes of your time to replace.

Excellent advice.

Thank you!

Marcus

5 years later
#12 1 year ago

Need help, i now have 2 weak coils. I was fixing the right one and during testing the left on is now in the same situation the right one was in. I check cold solders, re did them all, cleaned and replaced coil sleeve, repleced a bad eos swtich (all for the right), and now i am out of ideas. Both flippers are now weak, (no gusto from the high voltage end) buy holds in place when low voltage kicks over. Any help would be appreciated. I dont know where to go from here.

#13 1 year ago

maybe start a new thread?

possibly the EOS switches are not making good contact?

try removing a wire from each and measure continuity/resistance across the switches?

even new EOS switches need a good clean and check with a meter to confirm zero ohms across switch.

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