That's pretty cool.

Looks great. I like the mirror blades. How they holding up?

Not yet, been buyin other crap but I did put a wild 12v led strip on the apron behind the out lane guides.

Pretty as ever.

and you won't see any...only in person.

Just let me know when ya got some free time.

The people who make them think it's a bad idea.

That's cool, I like the way the eye moves. I noticed you don't pull the rod back by the eye ball. Because it will come unglued?

It looks really cool I think. Gotta get around to doin that one of these days. Ever go to the Axeman store on University Ave, about 6 blocks west of Snelling on the right side of the street in St Paul? They have #47 sockets with wires attached for 25 cents each, they work great.

I could stop and grab a bunch for ya if you'd like. I'll get a pic up today sometime.

By the time bidding is done that's gonna be a $400 tl. I just bought a NOS BoP tl for $149 shipped.

What parts of it will be mirrored ya think?

Well I was close at $400.

I'd be down for a mirrored one. You would too wouldn't you Aurich.

yes I could do that, it would give me an excuse to put my alt. in. How much you give me for it, it's mint.

Sorry NCD. You'll just have to come over to see it.

Welcome to the club. Looks good from the side. What has to be done?

Mine was a resto. to better then new and was 3k

I wonder how hard it is to find a good one these days?

I've got $75 into mine, added a killer programmable color changing, chasing @ fading led strip. Comes with a small key chain remote. It just goes crazy with the chasing effects. It's just the main strip on the apron, the others are reflections.

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Hopefully you can find all the new parts she deserves.

Yup, that's cool.

Completely programable. Close as I can come to players perspective.

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Looks like that dirt protected the pf.

On ebay, they have 4 on there now, buy it now $75 + $15 for shipping. Item # 271416579483. Sell name is Highendpinballrestorers.

Took 12v power from the 2 wire, 4 pin connector on the JAM drop targets. See photo.

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Nice to have you join us Jeff. Great gameroom, lots of vids.

Good to see you also Dreg. Yes please share what you've done to your girl.

Great story, yes share your rest.

Great times BEFORE cell phones, cable TV, internet and under a buck gas.

Take your time Aurich and do it rite.

The only way I'd get cable is for the car racing and besides who with pinball games has TIME to watch TV. Besides, I can use that $100+ per month for a lot of other things. I hate those monthly bill that never go away.

Love it.

Wooo, that must look wicked under black light. Nice job.

Glade you got it fixed. You think that's strange look what I found on that plastic when I bought my game. I have no idea where it goes.

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Like that? It holds the displays away from the tl rite?

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Can't say it's really needed, if anything if it comes into contact with the tl it would be a ware point. I'll leave it off and put a tag on it and put it in my Elvira parts box. Thanks Aurich.

Been working on the girl today and this is what I have done. And with 2 red flex on the flipper buttons they are REALLY bright.

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It's to intense of a light for my camera, it looks like a white blob with a red fringe. Trust me they are BRIGHT red.

Hooked up to a near buy GI, my thinking is that being lit all the time it gives you something you can see to shoot for. I tried putting the light up into the hole further but got a nasty reflection of bright red light, it was bouncing off the thickness of the pf so I pulled the bulb out until it lit the hole evenly with no reflection off the pf. I may pull it out further to soften the light more.

Nice for you to join us. How much room do you have for new games?

PM sent.

Hope ya find one...my girl isn't going anywhere.

Here's an easy light mod you can do. Gives ya something to shoot for.

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Welcome, what kind of shape is she in?

Another one? Well welcome to you also. How long you had her?

WOW 10 years and your still play'n her. That's true love.

That's the way I feel about my girl also.

and that they are thicker too.

They usually come with the ramps.

It would be nice to get a thicker set of ramps but mine were replaced when the game was restored so they are perfect. The whole game looks like it just came out of the box. It's a keeper.

Mine has wire also. No posts.

Outstanding light mod, should have been that way from the factory.

Should be matte.

Good find, especially the modesty decal, never seen one before.

Have you tried flattening it?

Yes those are Security head screws, you can get a set of bits at Harbor Freight or Home Depot. They are not needed very often but when you need um ya need um. One of those kinds of tools.

How old is your tl and how long did it have incandecent bulbs in it. Did you ever wash or clean the back of the tl?

I just wish that guy that made the flickering pot flames would come back on and tell us they are ready for sale. That was soooo cool. I was ready to send him my money.

There's no worries cleaning the back side of a tl, I had to do it with a couple, just used a mild soap and water and the brown gunk came right off and made a big diff in the colors and brightness of the tl. Just do a small spot at first and you will see.

Thanks for responding KoolFingers, I hear ya when you say life got in the way. I hope things are better for you now. Mark me down as wanting one, that is such a great mod. No one else is doing anything like it, it's very unique. Could you post a link to the post you put up with the vid you did of your mod? I'm sure people would love to see it. Thanks.

Thanks for posting it in this topic where people can find it. Like you said you were thinking about doing if you could add on to it so it looks like the pot is bubbling that would put it over the top. This is the first bg light mod I've ever seen besides just flashers and led's.

So your going to keep it?

GREAT story and good to have you back. I'd leave it all original for as long as possible but when things start to show their age and break I hope you can find the parts needed. I wish I would have bought a ramp set.

That wasn't from rubbing that was from his teeth hitting the glass as he licked.

My tl was perfect so I passed on the glass also.

Yeah it's a double layer plastic.

Thanks for the info. Mine is there so I'm one of the lucky ones.

Great news, it must have played pretty funky without the flap there.

I would think so.

Never tried the stuff.

Never had the problem, looks like the black tape is your only option and if it gets worn just pull it off and put on a couple of new strips.

The only real solution for your situation is a router attachment for a Dremel and route out the clearance needed and repaint that area.

I like the bigger ones too.

I LIKE......I LIKE.

Looks like your almost ready to go, how about new decals. No word yet that I've heard, have you looked into having the pf restored and cleared? Would be more expensive but you would probably get it faster then waiting for a repo pf.

Wish I would have gotten the ramp set.

Oh you luck dog. What a "pair".

Take it off and have it TIG welded, not MIG or wire feed. TIG is very precise welding.

Epoxy would never take the sheering force that that piece is subjected to.

Because the metal has a crystal structure it will only go back into one position so don't file the 2 surfaces flat and weld.

If you've done it before it's doable then. Good call.

Lookin good. I have the same black powder on mine too, looks perfect on this game. I used a red flex to light up the Collect Boogie Bonus and a Comet green 2 head flex to light the Open Coffins to Light BBQ slot. Gives me something to shoot for because they are lit.

Even with leds the pf is still pretty dark. Some double spot lights would really help. I have some but haven't put them on yet. The color changing strip works and looks really nice and it does a lot of different patterns and fades also.

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I've got the boney finger bats on my girl.

I wish that guy who made the flickering pot flames tl light mod would finish it.

Can you get us a couple of staged pictures of where the ball winds up.

That was close, hope ya find a good one.

Welcome to the club. Mine aint going anywhere either. Any mods on it?

I see, nothing wrong with leaving them original. That new pf sure is going to be nice. The Monster ramp is on the left and Water Slide is on the right. That German company (can't remember the name) had the Water Slide but the price was really high and the shipping to the US was REALLY high.

That looks really nice but that paint loss on her leg has got to piss you off.

To funny, I like it. Not to many will get the connection.

Last I saw Pinballcenter in Germany had some, are those the ones for $250. Everyone else sold out the last run which was about 4 months ago and they went FAST. Decals were included also with those.

Yeah they are and everytime we get the same old song and dance..."we only have a license to make so many" and "we only make so many because what if they don't sell and we have to sit on them". I say to that.

Yup your missing a metal guard wire, the other hole for it is just behind the black rubber at the beginning of the blue arrow. If you took it apart you should have it in your parts tray.

If you can make it it will probably save you a ton of money.

Yeah that's what I was thinking also.

Are their ramps that much thicker then originals?

The thickness is very important on the water slide ramp.

From the picture it looks like the plastic saucer is broken and it's really hard to see the upkicker lever. My guess would be to replace the saucer which is very easy and when you have the kicker off take it apart and clean off the pivot pin, the old grease from the factory may be hard. Go the the the post "Ball eject problems on ToTAN". Look for the link for pinballrevolutions which details how to take apart and clean the pivot pin. Hope this helps.

That's why my EATPM isn't going anywhere.

Here a couple of pictures, notice on the new clear one it has 2 tabs that stick up, they prevent the ball from coming back down. The third pict is an old one with one tab broken off where every once in a while the ball would fall back in. Your saucer probably has both tabs broken off. The new one is clear red and looks great with a socket and a flex red led lighting it up from the underside.

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OK how about this, if you look at my last picture you see a piece of metal that is above the hole. On my game if I look straight down on the hole that metal piece covers about 3/4 of the hole. I don't really see it on your game. With the angle you took your picture I should clearly see that metal piece over the hole. It deflects the ball from going more upward which then will shoot it more sideways.

Straight over the hole.
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From the front at an angle.
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From the front more of an angle.
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AH HA! Mystery solved....That will be $100 for my detective fee. Sorry I don't know where to get that piece, do you have a manual. I wonder if that's the problem with karmalords game too?

Thanks, I should have gotten them when I had the chance. They should make a smiley face with it blowing it's brains out.