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By chance is anyone looking to off-load their EATPM pin?
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6 months later
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:Need some help. I just picked up my Elvira, and I'm making my list of needed parts. I'm having one HELL of a time finding the plastic channel at the bottom of the backbox that the backglass sits in. It's an odd shape which no one seems to carry. Does anyone have a source for this stuff?
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I’ve been looking for that trim forever. Posted for help and heard nothing. Probably on the unobantium list…… unfortunately!
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:There's a wonderfully done resto thread done about 4 months ago by alexmogil. My documentation would pale in comparison....lol. I'll be referencing that one alot.
Does anyone have a domestic source for the apron decals? I can't find any in the states.
I’m getting all my decals with this next Zitt order. We need a few more to join in!!
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2 weeks later
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:So, all the damage on my piece was on the portion that faces towards the player, the front face i suppose you could say. Mine had some chunks missing out of it. The repair was super simple. All I did was buy a sheet of 1/16" thick black ABS plastic off of Amazon. I believe it was about 12" x 36" and cost around $20. I then measured the original channel face dimensions and cut a piece of the ABS the same size. Lastly, I roughed up the face of the original plastic and glued the new piece of ABS on it. I used clear silicone as an adhesive. A plastic bonding epoxy would work also. Just be sure to have plenty of clamps or clothespins or something on hand to hold the 2 parts together while they cure. 1/8" ABS is too thick, make sure to use 1/16". Worked wonderfully for me.
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Killer job!! Pin is coming along nicely. I’m currently still in the tear down phase on mine. I’ll definitely be referring back to your posted pix. Cheers
3 weeks later
Just received my backboard decal from the Pinballcenter, and let me just say there’s room for improvements. Color, overall length, alignment, graphics etc. Sticker will definitely work if you just want to cover up the existing board. But due to my OCD I’m going to re-do the entire graphic. Then print it on air lock improved quality material. Will post pix when complete.
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I’ll post pics once I’m satisfied with results.
1 month later
Quoted from Pinkitten:My camera doesn’t capture how green this new display is. It’s very bright and very green! My original display gassed out. I installed an Xpin replacement yesterday and I’m very happy with it. Took me 15 mins to swap them. Green fits this theme.
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Pinkitten where did you get your display? Green has been on back order forever.
2 weeks later
Finally got the back board decals printed. They are high quality air-lock 3M vinyl and couldn’t be happier with finished product. Art is spot on with several corrections made from previous decal purchased. If interested PM me. Working on apron art now!
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2 weeks later
2 weeks later
Sending out some decals to a Pinsider down under (Aus) and he mentioned he’d be willing to work with shipping for other Aussies interested. I’m hoping to ship out in the next couple days so if interested let me know and I’ll put you two together so you can work out details.
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Finally got powdercoat back, thanks again to Robertstone0407 another killer job! Making some progress….
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Has anyone ever wrapped their brain around reproducing the SKULL cave? Like the majority of us, our plastic forms have miscellaneous cracks from age/abuse and over tightening screws over the years. I have spoken to a few plastic manufacturers and the initial cost of producing a form would be up to $10K!! One was reproduced several years back and it was close, but not perfect. Would be stoked to hear some thoughts…
Quoted from tiltmonster:It must have been done before, I didn't buy one when Marco had them available a few years ago figuring I could get one at a later time... that's not the case but you'll see them listed as out of stock at some pinball part stores.
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/31-1517-2011
Yeah they have been out of stock for years. Those are slightly different from OEM, missing the (typically broken) front right tab and teeth are different. We are some crafty dudes, I know this is possible!?!
Quoted from Pinkitten:There is one skull cave on EBay with a few boogie men, but it’s $249.00.
I had a buddy buy that b/c seller said it was original and when he received it, completely night/day. But for the person who just needs one and truly doesn’t care, it’ll work. Funny b/c he wasn’t too stoked with it and seller was being a complete dick, refused the return stating it was a Bally. In the end got his funds back and there it remains on Ebay.
2 months later
Quoted from Pinkitten:I decided to try a few of the anodized lock nuts on EATPM. Not cost-effective to overuse them, but here and there they are pretty nice on certain pins.
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Nice detailed touch.
2 months later
Quoted from Pinkitten:Added Invisiglass and red powder coated legs. What an awesome pin. Start the party!
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Another proud owner of her trilogy! Looks killer….
brmorr 2 months later
Quoted from DarthPaul:Does anyone have any tips on getting the monster slide installed? I've probably spent about two hours trying to get that one screw in.
I love working on pins, I love working on pins, I love working on pins! Mindset is always a good place to begin…..
Quoted from DarthPaul:Took a dinner break and watched a little of the Hallmark channel. Decided to go back down to give it another shot and 10 minutes later, I did it. Elvira never looked better.
Hallmark channel, some good wholesome programming. Great for lowering that BP!!
Quoted from tiltmonster:Yesterday afternoon I installed new bumper caps, new ramps, new plastics excluding the Organ Player and Elvira in the Cauldron (I didn’t see the need to replace those) and I also installed the M&M Creations rollover switch, so it was a long afternoon/evening. Doing all this at the same time made sense because I had everything ripped apart and its very time consuming.
I’d like to give a shout out to Kyle5574 on YouTube, his video helped me out quite a bit, but I did a couple of things differently. This is many layered processes that has a few curve balls, and his video is very helpful.
I removed the back playfield glass channel which allowed to get access behind the backwall making it easier to remove the screw holding the ramps together. By doing that and removing the Boogiemen plastic it will allow access to drill a new hole in the PF because the predrilled ramp hole did not line up.
The decal on the left ramp is not a perfect fit, I had to start mine slightly higher or the curve would have been offline, it’s not that noticeable but you can see part of the hole under the ramp.
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The M&M rollover switch is great and is working well but I wish I had installed it lower. I wasn’t sure if it was not long enough to span the gap to get a reading and may be too close to the PF. You can see it’s shadow where is sits now but if I had placed it lower it would have been out of view behind the Monster Slide sign.
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I’m very happy with the way it turned out and I think it was worth all the time and aggravation. Pop Bumper caps were from Marco, ramps from Starship Fantasy, plastics from CPR and the rollover switch from M&M Creations. I had some of these parts for several years just waiting to be installed I was procrastinating due to the time and effort needed for this install. This is also a good time to replace those impossible rubber under the ramps so have some on hand!
The carnage
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I wish someone would remake the Skull Cave again that would be great, mine is brittle and starting to fall apart.
Good luck to anyone redoing their ramps!
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I have done my research on those dastardly Skull Caves, b/c I think we all are in similar situations in reference to conditions. They were never designed to stand the tests of time. Talked to several manufacturers in the attempt to reproduce, but the money they want to simply create a form was cost prohibitive. With the increasing technology in 3D printing, I'd be interested if someone could print a killer reproduction. So yes, I'm putting out a challenge for those of you with design/printing skills!!
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Quoted from Pinkitten:That’s a beauty! A local collector and friend of mine restored his EATPM a few years ago, and I bought it in 2020. It’s restored top to bottom like yours, and even has a Kruzman clear coated pf. I sleep underneath it at night just to make sure it doesn’t get away.
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NICE!!
2 weeks later
Quoted from Jrotten:Pinball center has the set, colors look off but has the one you need. From what I remember Pinsider Zitt does group buys from him since he doesn’t ship to USA but does for him.
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I ordered some Pinball Center decals and was not too stoked when they arrived. Bad colors and graphics.
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2 weeks later
Quoted from dudah:Scanned and cleaned up this puppy, gonna try printing out of fluorescent translucent green tomorrow!
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No SHIT!? Keep us posted, definitely one of those unobtanium pieces.
Quoted from RandyW:For a machine that spent its first 13 years in an arcade, the cabinet is surprisingly damage free!!
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I'd kill to have that shop space.
Looks like you're getting close! Not sure if it is the camera angle but your version is missing detail the original has. The nose looks rounder, teeth don't seem as detailed, the line and space between the eyes on the forehead. The green might be throwing me off as well. Totally stoked that someone finally took this on. I'm sure all of our skulls are in varying degrees of cracked.
Quoted from dudah:The scanning app I use (PolyCam) can only capture small details so well.
I've been putzing with MeshMixer to clean up the model and v2 will have some more defined features!
Definitely appreciate the effort!
Quoted from RandyW:High gloss blood red. I’m going for that wet blood look.
RED!?
1 week later
Quoted from RandyW:Oh yea, I guess they couldn’t find the volume switch???
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Looks like you have a few projects waiting in the wings!
Quoted from DragonLord:Thank you all! This is really helpful. Everyone's input helps to determine what direction to go. I'll post updates as I progress through the project.
The more feedback the better. Keep it coming!
tiltmonster DarthPaul Beechwood
P.S. I can tell this is a good group already.
What’s going to determine your route of resto is your knowledge and bank roll!
1 week later
Quoted from RandyW:And I thought I got a lot powder coated!
And that's NOT part of the armor. Still stuck on the flavor I'm going for!?
4 weeks later
Quoted from RandyW:First test of my custom apron decals didn’t go well. Colors are wrong and they made it too big. The clear vinyl’s ink can’t get bright enough. So the next set will be printed on white vinyl and die cut.
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Now you feel my pain! Getting my repro decals printed was a pain in the ASS! I spent a bunch of $$ with printer’s trying to get it correct. First mistake was trying to replicate the UV ink. Good luck, it’s looking killer!
4 months later
Quoted from 12Globetrotter:Awesome!!!! Thanks so much I would have never found that especially without a photo of it on their site.
Now all I need is the skull cave thingy. Everyone is out of stock. I heard they were some special run done by someone long ago.
There was a reproduction cave on EBay for the longest time and there was a Pinsider 3D printing an option. Check previous posts.
1 week later
Quoted from pyrotech:Thanks to Enchantress, I will my new plastics. One more, Does any know where I can find new ramps? Marco's has them but they want $300 plus.
Starship Fantasy
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Quoted from kyle5574:That’s beautiful! So much nicer than the original or the repro! I’d absolutely buy one if you/they want to make more.
Quoted from RobertWinter:Contact user CYUniversal (Lalo). I had mine made 24" wide to match the EHOH topper width which sits next to it. You can go larger or smaller. Price will adjust accordingly.
I might be in on one as well, repro topper definitely needs an upgrade.
Quoted from RobertWinter:Contact user CYUniversal (Lalo). I had mine made 24" wide to match the EHOH topper width which sits next to it. You can go larger or smaller. Price will adjust accordingly.
Talking to Lalo now, how’s the quality? Anything you’d change or do differently?
Quoted from RobertWinter:The quality is excellent. It's USB powered so you'll need a small wall/plug adapter. It comes with an inline electronic dimmer that I unplugged and am not using.
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The edge light can be a different color if you like. I thought green looked the best. Red might also look good. He also offers back lighting at no extra charge if you want to light the wall behind the topper. I opted for no backlight.
Here's a mockup Lalo did with red edge (and before we centered the Bally logo)
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I does looks a *litttle* dark when it's not plugged in (which is to be expected) but really comes to life when turned on.
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The unit is sealed and non-serviceable as far as I can see. Hopefully I'll never need to open it up.
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Don't think I'd do anything differently. I *might* have made the Bally logo a little larger, but I'm happy with how it looks. Like I said, I went with 24" width to match my EHOH topper width. His next size up is 26" which would probably look really nice.
How did you mount?
2 weeks later
Received topper from Cy Universal (Lalo) yesterday, this thing is completely Bad Ass. Much better than the CPR version. Cheers to RobertWinter for the heads up.
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Did you go with 24" or larger?
I went 24” with EATPM and he did a 24” JJP GnR for me. Even though these put out ample light I was/still on the fence with backlighting. Thought it might be overkill!?!
Quoted from ktuhde:Does anybody have a spare replacement skull? Or know of a seller in the US? Seems like my search comes up with only vendors outside of the US.
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These sir fall into the “Unobtanium” category. The plastics used in manufacturing weren’t meant to stand the test of time. Good luck finding one in killer condition anywhere on planet earth. There’s been repros made but just not the same.
Looks like another company has come out with a new version/offering. Anyone have experience with these or is the company legit? Cost is cheap w/o shipping. Might be into a group buy to save on shipping!? I just shot them an email to see what I can find out. In a side by side with original there are differences, but I think the art with the OG was the paint.
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Quoted from SilverUnicorn:Does anyone have the modesty decal for the backbox? Don't care if original or a remake.
Chris
Chris check with https://www.actionpinball.com/parts.php?item=PDG480 their page says they have them. Part of the backing came off of mine or I'd offer it up.
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https://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/elvira-and-the-party-animals-playfield-decal-set.html
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