You know, the himbo who played Flash Gordon is gonna be at tpf also - doesn't mean a new Flash Gordon game is coming out.

Elvira makes personal appearances all the time everywhere. It's her job. Doesn't mean a new Elvira game is coming out.

Yes. Another hint that she'll be at TPF.

She's "hollywood" 65 which probably means she's the wrong side of 70. Still there's a lot to be said for experience. Lots, and lots of experience. Plus, she can tell you about what it was like growing up in the 1950s.

It's actually not as good as almost every 1970s gottlieb 4 player or late 1970s Bally 4-player, and a bunch of 1970s williams four players. Which isn't a shock because it's based upon a crappy 1950s game. There's very little going on in Nellie and almost no progressive or interesting scoring features. It's a true bat the ball around, keep it in play game where almost everything is worth the same.

I like Nellie, it's fun, but your statement sounds like someone who hasn't played a lot of EMs.

Opinions can't be wrong. I like Nellie (of course would never pay anywhere close to asking for it but that's neither here nor there).

But...

If you think Nellie has more "code" than almost every 1970s Gottlieb EM, I really don't know what to tell you. Nellie is shallower than almost any other 1970s EM I can think of.

I'm glad you like Nellie, but you really need to play some quality EMs in the situation you described - with friends, over drinks, competitvely - before you make statements that make absolutely no sense. Playing one ball on a target alpha at a show and walking away really isn't the same thing.

I'll give you the sound and LCD screen and that it's "brighter" but I guess I don't care about that stuff when I'm playing that style of game. I will see your "strongly disagree" and raise it with a "times two."

"one of the best four player ever"....man...you realize you can buy a Bow and Arrow or Jungle Queen for 500 bucks and have a much better game than Nellie, right? If not a unique experience and interesting hybrid, which is what you are paying for and getting with a Nellie.

This isn't to insult you or call you an idiot. I just think you are missing out on dozens if not HUNDREDS of great games out there. Or maybe you just like the novelty that is the total package of Nellie. But man, there are so many fantastic older games of this style.

It doesn't matter how "relevant" a pinball theme is for young people. A pinball theme is only "relevant" if it sells.

The question is, are there enough older people with disposable income who STILL haven't had enough of the thin, ancient joke that is elvira?

Based upon the strong holding value of her old titles and the wheezing enthusiasm of this thread, id say yes. Yet another Elvira game would probably sell, proving it relevant.

Preordering is very simple.

You send someone a bunch of money for no reason and then sit around waiting for your game while others who didn't pre-order impulse buy them and play in their homes while you wait.

It's a pretty cool system.

It's hard for me not to have the same feeling.

Elivra 3 was never actually announced by Stern, right?

Unless there is a special “rape monkey LE” all hope is lost!!

That's horrible. Reads like a sick donkey bleating.

Elvira3 or E3 for you brevity types.

is much more pleasing to the eye.

So far precisely ZERO people here have said they do not like boobs

So what exactly are you blathering on about, and why?

And how many more hundreds of these posts are we going to have to endure? The only people whining about political correctness in this thread are people
Who claim to hate political correctness.

Stop it Social Injustice Warriors! It makes you look dumb. Everybody loves Elvira, and her boobs. Fact.

No, they are interested in typing “SJW” as many times as possible, as quickly as possible, and as obnoxiously as possible, for no discernible reason.

Sometimes I seriously wonder what is wrong with half the people here.

I’m sure you guys will get lots of boobs in the game, it’s kinda Elvira’s thing. So relax.

Didn’t they officially announce an E3 game two years ago? It’s just been a slow cooker.

Oh thank you Jesus! BOOOOOOBS!

Take that, gloria Steinam!!!

Looks super cool. Nice work on the sneak peak. I’m sure the official pics will be out soon.

Stern does it again! I love it.

Did they get the same artist who did the old games?

Damn so we all hate this, with occasional sporadic bursts of hope and unabated “SJW” whining?

I’m going back to bed.

You just never know what you’ll get out of this crowd. I last checked in here at noon when the photos came out. Figured everybody would be creaming their jeans at the boobs and the big mansion and such.

23 hours later I find everybody hates it.

Also SJW!

So I guess I don’t have this place figured out after all. But I also find I’m less interested than ever in caring.

Anyway go Redskins! Whip them Cowboys!!

Yeah, “we want something new and innovative/why isn’t this exactly like some 20 year old game” is always a funny one.

If E3 were a state, fair to say it would be Texas! Game’s gonna rule!

E3!
E3!
E3!

I can’t wait to play E3 at E3!!!

Guaranteed minimum one “is Lyman on code?” Post per page of this thread till mid October.

Well, see, here's the problem with this. There's one of those fat guy / disabled person scooters called an "EV3" so we don't want anybody to get confused!!!

Therefore it must be EHo3HVH. It's the only logical choice.

Did she say who's going to be on code?!?!

Elvira existed solely on TV, PG-13 rated movies, and beer commercials. She's about as raunchy as an episode of Three's Company.

I'm not quite sure people are really even remembering Elvira correctly. Maybe getting her confused with Linda Lovelace?

And yet it seems like if the game doesn't feature her getting titty fucked by a horse or gangbanged by the Universal Monsters people are going to be disappointed that Stern made the game too "PC."

Seriously folks - if you can stop reflexively typing "SJW" over and over, what are the "raunchiest" things in the previous Elvira games? "Nice organ?" "That'll get him up?" Are you really worried that Stern is going to nix stuff like that at the behest of feminists who all seem to like Elvira anyway? (at least the ones I know).

I seriously think that is what it would take to keep this crowd happy.

We all E3 up in this bitch.

Sorry Robert!

Man he's been on the warpath lately.

James, what's going on buddy? I haven't seen you this agitated about gender relations since you got thrown out of that health club 10 years ago.

Relax man! Tranquillo. Be cool!

Why does everybody keep trying to apply some kind of scientific logic to this?

I'm actually for retrofitting All elviras by number. I will be starting a thread and poll shortly.

E3: The people's acronym!!!!!

Don't believe the lamestream "polls" as they are incorrect reporting!!

I think you mean OMGSPJS

So for the record:

I believe E3HO is the first game ever with a 69 joke on the playfield?

We are making dirty history with this game, and I like it!

Yeah, just you. And like 75 other guys.

Doesn't anybody read any of this stuff around here, or are all we all just pissin' in the wind?

I think we should use TMNT2 for the forthcoming "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Dumb Sewer Pizza Adventure for 90s 12 Year Olds" pin.

What say you?!

E68!!!!

Hell yes...that means next year...

5. Discuss TMNT2 Endlessly

I agree. Plus, Keith works fast, and Lyman works slow.

This is also true. Avoid Dwight games if you hate Munsters, but not if you like button mashing multiplier character path stuff. I doubt we'll see anything as bare bones as Munsters anytime soon.

"If Stern wants to continue to dominate the market they need to slash prices 25 percent!"

That's just rude!

The internet!

(was there any question? It's Mick.)

Child's play.

Some of those video games you see at Dave and Buster's are like $40,000 and up.

Right.

But they cost more and are on location. All I wanted to point out really.

It doesn’t really look like official Elvira stuff dude. More like fan art. Which it is.

Sorry man!

If the premiums could be bought for $3500 I'd take two of them!

Et tu, Whysnow?!

Calling Beatles a reskin is a stretch (not a single post from the original Seawitch design is in the same place).

Calling Batman 66 a reskin is ridiculous. The entire left 2/3rds of the playfield is different.

God hate the word "titular."

Still game looks awesome. Better trailer than usual from Stern.

So do we love it now or do we still hate it? It's hard to keep up.

Mild distaste mixed with lukewarm excitement at $7999?

What was the last "awe inspiring" moment a new pinball machine brought you?

So all of your awe-inspiring pinball moments are 25 years old. Maybe stop expecting that kind of thing from a pinball machine? Also there's 47 pinball companies now, yet you lay the "lack of innovation" complaint solely on Stern?

Is it too early to start counting coils?

It's as awesome as you'd expect from a global lifestyle brand based on the iconic and outrageously fun modern American game of pinball:

Stern Pinball Announces New Elvira’s House of Horrors Pinball Machines

CHICAGO, IL – September 18, 2019 – Stern Pinball, Inc., a global lifestyle brand based on the iconic and outrageously fun modern American game of pinball, announced today the availability of a new line of pinball machines celebrating the iconic character, Elvira, Mistress of the Dark! The game was developed in collaboration with the Whizbang Pinball Studio team of Greg Freres and Dennis Nordman. Greg and Dennis developed the first two Elvira games. Elvira’s House of Horrors pinball machines will be available in Premium, Limited Edition, and Signature Edition models.

The taunting is over and the haunting begins in the third and campiest installment of the Elvira pinball trilogy! Trying to sell her mansion through “Alternate Realty”, Elvira’s house is haunted by the movie characters from her past. These ghouls, ghosts, monsters, and strange assortment of vintage characters with horrific acting skills seek revenge on Elvira while she and the player confront them, sending them back to the “film” from which they came! Elvira’s House of Horrors immerses players in a fun, campy, B-movie universe filled with all of the humor expected from the Mistress of the Dark including custom speech and, in a pinball first, exclusive filming of Elvira for custom video scenes featured throughout the game!

The Premium, Limited Edition, and Signature Edition models all feature Elvira’s “House of Horrors”, a frightening Victorian fixer-upper, full of creepy charm and supernatural surprises. Players can gain access to the mansion through the front door, the cellar, or through the garage which is guarded by a gravestone drop-target. An orchestra of color changing RGB lights accentuates the house in sync with the different “House Haunts” featured throughout the game. Lighted windows and a spinning attic turret track players’ progression on their pinball journey.

If a haunted mansion wasn’t enough to keep your skin crawling, beware of the “Deadhead Family Crypt”! This mausoleum houses a variety of characters that need an awakening courtesy of a steel silver ball to their head. This interactive crypt will keep players on their toes with the Crypt entrance unleashing balls from a separate location while also becoming a physical bash toy. And with Elvira’s pending move from her hopeful home sale, the interactive Elvira’s “Junk in the Trunk” toy allows players to lock balls for a frantic two-ball multiball.

“It was a pleasure to work directly with the Mistress of the Dark on this third collaboration,” said Gary Stern, Chairman and CEO of Stern Pinball, Inc. “Elvira’s House of Horrors pinball is a haunting fun time!”

The Limited Edition model is limited to 400 units globally. The Limited Edition model includes additional unique features such as a sequentially numbered plaque, an exclusive mirrored backglass, exclusive custom themed cabinet artwork, a custom autographed bottom arch, exclusive custom art blades, anti-reflection pinball glass, and a shaker motor.

The highly collectible Signature Edition model is limited to 50 units globally. The Signature Edition model includes all features of the Limited Edition game, plus special hyper-chrome embossed cabinet decals, a personally autographed Elvira collectible trading card with cover and mounting, and a signed special Elvira certificate of authenticity that includes a swatch of fabric from Elvira’s iconic red velvet sofa.

Complementing the immersive theme and exciting gameplay experience, Stern Pinball’s powerful SPIKE™ electronics hardware system enables high-definition graphics and innovative animations on the video display. SPIKE™ reduces system complexity and energy usage resulting in enhanced reliability and simplified servicing. The state-of-the-art electronic system also powers a high-fidelity 3-channel audio system that is three times more powerful than audio systems of previous generations.

Pricing and Availability:

Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price:

MSRP for sales to USA end-users, before any VAT, GST, Sales Tax, Duties, or other taxes.

Premium Model: $US 7,999

Limited Edition Model: $US 9,599

Signature Edition Model: CALL FOR PRICE

Elvira’s House of Horrors pinball machines are available through authorized Stern Pinball distributors and dealers around the world.

About Stern Pinball, Inc.

Stern Pinball, Inc. is a global lifestyle brand based on the iconic and outrageously fun modern American game of pinball. Headquartered minutes from Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport in the heart of North America, the company creates, designs, engineers, manufactures, markets, and distributes a full line of technologically advanced terrestrial and digital pinball games, parts, accessories, and merchandise. Stern Pinball serves digital, consumer, commercial, and corporate markets around the globe.

Recent Stern Pinball titles include Jurassic Park, Black Knight: Sword of Rage, The Munsters, The Beatles, Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Guardians of the Galaxy, Star Wars, Aerosmith, Ghostbusters, KISS, Metallica, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Star Trek, AC/DC, Batman, and Spider-Man. A broad range of players enjoy Stern Pinball’s games from professional pinball players who compete in high-stakes competitions around the globe to novice players who are discovering the allure of the silver ball for the first time. To join the fun and learn more, please visit www.sternpinball.com.

Innovation sucks in pinball and if that's what you want, find a new hobby, you aren't going find your "awe inspired" in this one. I'm surprised you haven't figured that out in a quarter century. Clearly, the iconic and outrageously fun modern American game of pinball is not for you.

I like stuff like that! Reminds me of the fault in Earthshaker.

If past trailers are any indication the music in the trailer is probably in the game.

Nice! Easily the best pre-release video we've seen from Stern. Lighting looks great.

The first time saw electromechanical pop bumpers it was positively awe-inspiring. My world was forged that day.

Come on Stern!!! Step it up!!!

Hey let's be fair - it's innovative at least!

Not sure if it's pointless. The point is to shoot the ball across the playfield and hit the standups. Perhaps it will be visually pleasing?

I hope that haunted house is built strong enough to support the many pounds of fake spiderwebs and ghouls its going to be subjected to.

Not to mention, Elvira is kinda like KISS, and not just because they've had careers that far outlasted any reasonable expectation.

That many pounds of makeup hides a lot of age-related sins. I'm sure Cassandra still looks great in full Elvira drag. Just like Paul Stanley!

That's been on a few games already dude.

Not really, when you consider the inherent value of games these days.

An op I know is routinely selling off 5 year old equipment for $1000-1500 less than he paid for it, regardless of pro/prem/LE. His break-even point is really long before his coin take reaches the purchase price of the machine.

That's not ironic. It's just a thing.

You know, when you guys downvote, you are really just downvoting yourself!!!!!

It’s a sad commentary on humanity today, really.

We don’t take orders from him!

HE WORKS FOR US!!!!

I think you got that backwards. JJP's premium pricing on Wonka was clearly intended to compete with Stern premiums, not the other way around.

You know those polls are not contractually binding and likely don't necessarily reflect reality right?

I voted in it and I've never bought an NIB game in my life.

You are a quick learner.

Movies go Public Domain for a number of reasons, including most famously Night of the Living Dead which has been PD since it was released in 1968.

It's no surprise most of these movies were also featured on MST3K. They didn't have to pay anybody to use them as they are mostly (or all?) public domain.

Yes. And GOT. And Aerosmith. And Beatles. And Ghostbusters. And KISS. And Walking Dead.

I think pretty much all of them. Toppers are just another garby cash garb!

He’s a quick learner

Why do these threads always turn into show and tell?

“Elvira? No thanks, I’ll stick with my well-modded Tron with a color dmd, Pink powdercoat, and signed instruction cards from the second unit director. It’s near mint with only a couple scratches underneath the game thanks to an overzealous, lightly modded Schnauzer with aftermarket grooming and a custom, schnauzer Refinery collar. He’s a good dog just gets excited. He’s near mint with papers - comes from a championship bloodline. Sometime he likes to sleep underneath another game that isn’t Elvira, my gorgeous fully restored HEP high speed 2 with pinsound board...”

Cool thanks for the info!

That's a good question. I'm not against releasing games "early" per se - it's been a pretty successful model for them. But Stern has been cranking out so many games lately I don't think it hurts them any to hold this back another 6 months - year.

This being said, we heard all these complaints with Batman 66, which was revealed before it was even flipping and released about 2 years away from mature code. And it all worked out.

You can buy these games now, or you can buy them in two years when the code is mature, or not buy one at all and just tell us about the MBLE you just bought for no reason. It's up to you. Some people just want the game and don't mind seeing it evolve while they own it. Some people want the game now and melt down when the code takes so long, despite past precedent. And some people don't want the game at all but love complaining about code.

So there's something for everybody.