OK. I can't take it anymore. There seems to be some solid speculation that Elvira's House of Horrors will be the next Whizbang boutique game produced by Stern. Cassandra, Dennis, and Greg will all be at TPF in March. Will there be a game announcement at that point? A few people have suggested as such on this forum.

Now this thread is not for people who would not be interested in a third Elvira machine. I'm not interested in hearing from those people. If you wouldn't be interested in it, that's fine. But let's keep this thread for those who would be enthusiastic about another Elvira machine. It goes without saying that I will be first in line should this machine get announced. I have my money ready NOW!

With any luck, this thread will turn from a gossip/rumor thread into an announcement thread and then a reveal thread. I've got my fingers crossed that this will actually happen.

Who else would like another Elvira machine and what are you hoping to see in it? I'm already thrilled with what I see with the color LCD for Aerosmith and can only imagine how great that technology could be used for Elvira.

Edit 3/25/17

It's official! Elvira's House of Horrors is coming!

Edit 9/13/19

Modified with official title now that Stern has shown it in their teaser video.

Edit 4/8/20

Discussion of game now directed to the Owners Club thread.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/elvira-s-house-of-horrors-the-owner-s-club

I sincerely doubt they would re-theme WNBJM a THIRD time...

This would be great Game Over music.

Maybe 53 more days until an announcement at TPF on March 25th? Fingers crossed!

Great. *Another* slot I need to get my hands on (pun intended)!

It will be later than that...

Not a reliable one methinks.

It's already been designed. And no, that is not the artwork.

I believe the specific programmer has already been chosen.

Didn't they already say there would only be one version? Like WNBJM?

Believe me. It will be worth the wait!

No.

Also no.

Dennis completed the layout/design before his contract with Stern expired. He stated this in the recent podcast interview.

I'm pretty sure it's one model, like what happened with WNBJM.

From Halloween Wars 2016

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Only one version was designed by Dennis. Not sure how they could offer multiple models...

JJP won't be doing Elvira 3, but we can always hope for an Elvira 4! If it can happen with POTC...

It's Dennis' design...

Well said @mof.

I am also setting my expectations low. Hard to be disappointed that way. Stern has a way of *modifying* designs to fit a certain BOM and Dennis has been out of the loop on the game for a LONG time.

But it *is* Elvira so I'm buying it on theme alone to complete the trilogy.

She no longer makes convention/signing appearances in costume.

Not a myth. It's real!

It's always been named Elvira's House of Horrors contrary to some people's wishful thinking...

So, are we adopting EHOH as the accepted acronym?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/deadpool-or-monster-bash#post-4532051

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Did anyone catch the contents of the teaser? Specifically, the Deadhead Family Crypt?
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And the house with the lit windows. Did you notice how the gargoyles on the stair rail flew UP as the camera approached? Hmmm...
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Oh, and the organ tune sounded *very* familiar!

To me, E3 is this - https://www.e3expo.com

But I understand your sick donkey reference.

Nothing has been confirmed.

I've known about this game for a long time...

Can someone pm me the photos?

Received. Thanks!

I think the pops are behind the right ramp.

You mean Freres...

I think you meant like the frogs/leapers from SS.

I have already stated I'm out unless the blistering playfield situation is fixed.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/1313-mockingbird-lane-munsters-club/page/112#post-5167451

It will come down to what gets used the most.

People *hated* the WH2O acronym for Whitewater when it was suggested instead of WW, but it ended up being accepted in the long run.

I don't care what people call it. Just fix the playfield blistering issue so I can buy one. I don't really care for the Circle Of Missing Artwork (COMA!) solution but if that's the only way to prevent it, I'm good with it.

I'm not convinced. SS was not E2. BK3 didn't stick for BKSOR. I'm using EHOH myself, donkeys be damned!

More like the frogs on SS. Unless those tip back like EATPM instead of jumping up. But the teaser video intimated that they jumped up.

No.

I prefer this one.

Remember, this game is called Elvira's House of Horrors. The theme is more about the house and Elvira is merely the host/owner.

Elvira is only on the Scared Stiff playfield what, two times? And they're basically mirror image poses of each other. And she's nowhere on the SS cabinet.
I'm seeing at least 3 Elviras on the playfield. Near the crypt entrance, on the plastic above the side targets and in the top window of the house. I agree that more Elvira is always better but you need some balance with the theme elements.

EATPM admittedly has a LOT of Elviras on the playfield but that machine is *named* Elvira.

Not a slam dunk for NIB. But yes, at *some* point I'll get one.

My EATPM was Cassandra's personal HUO game. And my SS was Dennis' sample game. Who knows where my EHOH will come from.

I'm using EHOH. The more it's used, the faster it will be accepted.

EHOH is winning by a 2 to 1 margin against E3 in the poll someone else started.

Sorry Levi!

Except the game is called Elvira's House of Horrors. The same reason ACNC is not called NC.

It's also not ESS because the title of that game is not Elvira's Scared Stiff. It's just Scared Stiff.

I started using EHOH a year ago and I'm sticking to it!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/deadpool-or-monster-bash#post-4532051

He meant OMG4...

I think the *joke* is the house number is actually 666, but the middle number lost a nail and flipped over.

No offense to Wincat, but that drawing is too cartoony for Elvira. She would never approve that as a likeness.

There's a drop under the left side of the house.

I really liked the house lighting during the haunted mode.

I don't think they've ever done that before. Why would they start now?

Unless they release an "Elvira Cabinet" Premium some point down the road...

If you're referring to the face on the ramp, I agree. It's a cool effect.

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No. That's Eegah.

And there's a reason he's holding a can of shaving cream...
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There is some truth to this.

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Good catch. Been wondering how they pulled that off.

Makes sense too. A similar effect was used on the Dead Heads on the backboard of EATPM.

No.

Look 4 posts up from yours for the answer.

Again, NO. littlecammi spotted it.

See here (link starts at 2:12 where the effect is obvious) -

Agreed.

12 different Deadheads? That sounds like fun!

Sounds like the Crypt Kicker to the left targets is going to be a player controlled shot similar to the cannon on ACDC/T2.

Did anyone notice that they updated the features video with music from each mode?

That's funny!

I've been watching a local copy I had so I never rewatched it on YouTube.

Does Pinball Browser work on Spike2 games?

How many other people had copies so they could watch offline though?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/elvira-s-house-of-horrors-the-owner-s-club

I'm still seeing ads for LEs here in the US...

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Warning! This is a VERY long post!

I've intentionally taken a hiatus from this thread once all the negativity after the stream started. Now that it has calmed down somewhat, I'll give my thoughts, albeit biased, on the game.

I love the overall feel of the game. The big haunted house on the playfield definitely sets the mood. After watching the stream, I have rewatched it numerous times to focus on the LCD to help with my understanding of game play. On game start, the LCD sets the mood with the house and lots of info areas on the screen. Not overly crowded IMO.
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I'll address one of the elephants in the room first, the Pool Party tubes. I had the same reaction as most others had, that it looked out of place. I understand the tie-in, but it didn't fit over the B-movie playing behind it. Maybe if on the first pop-bumper hit a "Pool Party" graphic replaced the B-movie playback while the tubes are popping onto the screen, and then reverts back to the movie after the ball exits the pops? Or maybe the tubes could be made a bit "spookier" looking by using the art that's on the pop bumper caps?
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The other elephant is the Deadheads. Personally, I like the different personalities that are being introduced here. In SS, you only got a quick glimpse of each Deadhead (Fish Head, Shrunken Head, etc). Here you get taunted by the current Deadhead in play until you banish them back into the crypt. The continuous floating head may be a little much. Again, they seem a little out of place floating around the main screen over movie. Maybe confine the current Deadhead in play to one of the smaller screens on the right while it's in play? Because I believe when you *do* banish one, they become a portrait over there.
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I *do* love the intro sequence for each Deadhead. How the floating skull turns into a Deadhead.
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And the Crypt Open sequence was very well done.
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One thing I missed during the initial stream was the Trailer Trash. This is when a mode is finished, you have the ability to collect an additional 50, 75 or 100% of the points collected during that mode. Shoot the house, get 50%. Shoot one ramp then the house for 75%. Shoot both ramps then the house for the full 100%. A timer starts on the first ramp shot so this is a fun little hurry up option after each mode for additional points.
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I like that there are playfield multipliers as well. Complete the target banks (Trunk Combo and Hand of Fate) on both sides to light an inlane shot to increase the multiplier.
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The lock animation for Junk In The Trunk is a fun throwback to the SS animation.
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Oh, and let's talk about the Elvira clips. Everyone has stated they wanted more Elvira but I like how the intro clips were sprinkled in. They were a little repetitious after a few plays, but I'm sure there will be many more options in the final version. You can also skip the video intros with a flipper cancel should you wish. Of the few clips I saw, I really enjoyed them. The Silver Bullet beer reference and the "you know, MY age" had me smiling.
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Here's a good example of *way* too many things on the screen at one time. There's the movie clip in the back. A still of Elvira over that during an intro to Wild Women Multiball. The Floating Deadhead. A pool party tube. And the WWM title. But it also shows you how much is happening in the game *simultaneously*.
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Looks like there are a lot of fun modes throughout the game - House Party, Wild Women Multiball, Hand of Fate and Unhappy Hour to name just a few.
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The animations for the LCD are all very well done and fit the theme very well.
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I *do* hope the match sequence is updated as it looks very rough at the moment.
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I don't consider myself a "super fan" but I do enjoy all things Elvira. Of all the models, I personally prefer the LE over the Premium. Why? Cabinet art is the main attraction for me in the price differential. I also started adding things that I would normally add to a game - powder coated armor, art blades, shaker, non-glare glass. With those and the other LE upgrades like the mirrored backglass, upgraded speaker system and lower arch, I feel it's definitely worth the added expense for the LE. I don't see the value in the SE.

Overall, I'm really looking forward to this game. I know what we saw was a only glimpse of what the game will ultimately become.

Do I wish the game were cheaper? Of course. But I wish ALL games were cheaper.

LE/SE have backglasses, not translites.

I believe the plastic on the right side of the arch will be pre-signed by the design team.

Because pumpkins and skulls don't float!

But seriously, the pop bumper area is where the pool party is and the pop bumpers represent floaties.
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It's all a throwback to the Monster Slide on EATPM.
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But I get your point about wanting it to be a little "spookier". That's why I suggested using the pop bumper plastic art that has gargoyles and skeletons in the floaties.

Even the side art above next to the pop bumpers shows Elvira's Hot Tub which is an homage to Elvira's Party Punch cauldron in EATPM.
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Congrats! You should post this to the Owner's thread - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/elvira-s-house-of-horrors-the-owner-s-club

What number is your LE?

Can you take some clear pictures of the backglass? Would love to see some better detail...

You're kidding, right? Because you can't be serious. And I'm a huge SS fan.

The price? OK, the LE is $600 more than previous LEs. I'm sure licensing and the custom Elvira clips added to the overall cost. And you can't compare price on this to a game that's over 23 years old (SS).

Not even half as many features as Scared Stiff? Let's do a quick comparison.

Both have two flippers
Both have upper rollover lanes
Both have pop bumpers
Both have two ramps (I'll give you that SS has more *iinteresting* ramps, but they're still just ramps)
SS has the spider hole with a VUK to the ramp, EHOH has a multi-stage crypt with a separate VUK
SS has 3 Leapers, EHOH has 4 Gargoyles
SS has the Spider Wheel, EHOH has the Hand of Fate
SS has the Stiff in the Coffin, EHOH has Junk in the Trunk - both kick out balls
SS has a bash crate that also locks balls, EHOH has a full size mansion with drop target, lifting ramp, interior diverter, rotating turret, interior and exterior lighting, etc.
SS has 3 stand up targets, EHOH has 6
SS has a DMD, EHOH has a full color HD display with actual custom Elvira clips
EHOH has a spinner, SS has none
SS has 14 shots (counting each target/leaper), EHOH has 18 shots
SS has 6 modes, EHOH has 6 haunts, numerous multiballs, other modes like Unhappy Hour, etc

So where are all these extra (double according to you) features you say that SS has?

They already tried that 12 years ago. The winner was pretty good but you can never replace Cassandra.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Search_for_the_Next_Elvira

Here's the winner - April Wahlin.

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If you watched the competition, April had the mannerisms and attitude down cold.

Don't forget Vampira!

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You're completely dismissing EHOH without ever playing it? Based solely on what you've seen on a stream with early code? If you prefer the art on SS over EHOH that's fine. But you can't say SS is "far and away the better pin" because it has twisty ramps and you've never played a single ball of EHOH.

Personally, I don't think EHOH needs to be "better" than SS or EATPM. Why can't it just be a new, different pinball that's fun?

When I sold the NIB SS I had a few years ago, it fetched much more than the current price of an EHOH LE.

I believe there are 3 states to the crypt. Open, closed and skull head bash toy.

Apparently this is the initial code that the games are currently shipping with.

As per the Readme file, "The code download will need to be unzipped before installing on a USB stick.".

There are 3 or 4 files unzipped, each about 2GB in size. Put those on the USB stick, NOT the downloaded ZIP file. Those fit on FAT32 fine.

Here's the ReadMe -

The code download will need to be unzipped before installing on a USB stick.

Update instructions:
Download the zip file.
Unzip the file; this will create a folder that contains file(s).
Open the folder, copy the file(s) to the root level of a USB stick.(Do not copy the folder.)
Power the game off.
Insert the USB stick.
Turn the game on.
After the game boots up, there will be an option for software update.
The volume buttons change options for full or quick update. The enter button selects the option and starts the update.
Once the update is completed, turn the game off and remove the USB stick.
Turn the game on and the game will be running the new code.

8 hour drive to Poughkeepsie for a $9200 NIB LE.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/86398

Fixed it for you (and me!)

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AYCE Gogi/On Tilt in Van Nuys also has all three Elvira games currently.

https://www.tiltgraphicsinc.com/copy-of-elvira-and-the-party-monste