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Eight Ball Deluxe solenoid misfire

By In99flames

3 years ago


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#10 2 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Oh dear, that coil connected backwards should have caused the playfield fuse to blow and potentially the Q8 driver transistor on the solenoid driver board when activating the 7 Drop Target Bank Reset coil. It was essentially acting as short circuit across the coil. The Black-White wires must connect to the non-banded (anode) side of the diode across the two coil lugs. You need to then somehow install the isolation diode between the Grey-Red wire and the coil lug with the banded (cathode) side of the diode. This diode prevents voltage going back through the windings and powering other coils in the circuit.
See the diagram below:
The missing diode(s) on the 7 Drop Target Bank Reset coils (shown in the pink box) is allowing voltage back onto the Grey-Red wire causing the 2,10 Drop Target coil to activate when the 4 Drop Target Bank reset coil activates. That missing diode is required to isolate power from coils not being selected by the solenoid expander.
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This post was super helpful Quench! Your the man. It saved me a ton of work with with diode problems. One last issue I have is with the “e” target. When selected it seems to complete all of Deluxe. All of the switches seem to register properly in test mode plus I replaced the diode connected to E target. Any idea why it would do this?
Thanks,
Del

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#12 2 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Knock down the 1 to 8 drop targets so D-E-L-U-X-E is lit.
I presume you're saying at this point if you hit the first E target, all the playfield D-E-L-U-X-E gets spotted?
Anyway if yes, then get the D-E-L-U-X-E targets lit and manually raise *every* drop target in the game including the inlines.
Navigate a screw driver behind the drop targets to activate the E target. Does all of D-E-L-U-X-E get spotted? If no, then start dropping individual drop targets until you determine which ones cause the problem to occur.

You explained it exactly right. It will select all of D-E-L-U-X-E only by pressing the first E with drop target 2-7 every time. You can also see the same results without target 3 or 4 intermittently. Sometimes it will do it 23567 or 24567. Another words, one or the other.

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#14 2 years ago

Once again, You Nailed it Quench! I’ve had this problem before. I did a continuity test to switch and it seemed fine which I don’t understand. Of course when I took it apart it was missing the inner tube sleeve. Put it together with sleeves and problem solved. It was the #2 switch incorrectly stacked just like you said. Big fat thank you, “the pinball Electronic problem solving King”!

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