Good!

I think it's a great anology. People are all supportive for something they think is great. First sign something bad starts happening. Everyone turns their backs, and turns into a lynching. Beatles are the greatest band ever.

Seriously, you are harping on and on about crappy flipper feel that you experienced ON AN EARLY PROTOTYPE 6 MONTHS AGO. And despite the numerous recent reports and video, all stating that the flippers are just fine (and they are; I've played a recent prototype on location here), you STILL have this bug up your butt and refuse to let go of this OLD issue until, apparently, you experience it for yourself. All of your CURRENT criticisms based on an OLD, OUTDATED experience are simply misplaced. *sheesh*

you should experience everything with pinball yourself. If you start taking peoples word on what games are good and crap, your going to buy into all this hyped up crap that's overpriced to the gills. I've heard from more people that played it first hand, that the flipper are NOT fixed, more than the ones on here that say they are. We will see. If they feel good, i'll say so. I'm not biased either way.

I guess Bowen was lying then?

No reason putting money towards Hobbit, who knows when that might actually come out. Get your WOZ and enjoy it for a long time. Then decide what to do.

At least he wasn't hating on a pin that he has not played/seen the final toys and playfield art of like someone I know. Just giving you a hard time not meant to offend.

The unfortunate problem of The Hobbit was the movie. I'm not worried about Jack delivering an amazing pin, but I hated the movie so much I just can't bring myself to order one.

(Huge fan of the LOTR movies, love the LOTR pin, and very excited because my WOZECLE will get built soon because I thought the flippers were good when I played it a month ago, so I'm not a hater of anything but the Hobbit movie).

no prob, you abide! c'mon, I was giving my impressions based on observations, and not hating on it. I hope the Predator turns out to be very cool and successful. Still, a playfield that looks like it doesn't have a lot of cool shots, and that deadly standup pair dead-center.... But I acknowledge the opinions of those who have actually played it. Unlike some people who are hesitant to do so...

I don't think how good or bad The Hobbit movies turn out to be will affect how good or bad the pin will be. I wasn't a fan of The Lord of the Rings movies but loved the pin. New Tron movie not so great but Tron pin is my favorite stern title. Prefer The Rolling Stones music to AC/DC but the AC/DC pin is much better.

The new Tron movie was awesome!

Thanks for not getting all pissy about it. Its hard to joke around here sometimes without someone taking it personal.

Just FYI, I played the WOZ at the TPF and the flippers felt fine to me. Not as good as the new Sterns but very close. Yeah I know I said that. LOL. However the game had many other errors and the code was so far from finished that I could't get a good feel if it was good or not. I feel like a broken record when I say, we will see when the code is finished. The game was just OK to me at this point. It was my first time playing WOZ and I got about 12 games in. Seems like it hasn't changed much for a year now. Very disappointed in the progress so far. Really excited to see it finished.

Pappy

That is the way I felt too,IMO they will be better when WOZ is completely finished which I think will be soon.

Played WOZ at TPF as well. Game looks amazing, though not having the traditional translite actually took a bit of getting used to for me. LED display felt larger than what I was expecting. Gameplay felt a bit off to me though - probably just unfinished software, but there were a couple of things flow wise which I did not care for. Of course, this could be attributed to me making terrible shots and not getting enough game time in!

Overall though for the OP and some of the earlier comments, whole-heartedly agree on playing something before you buy. WOZ has always been highly anticipated for me, but I came away from it realizing its probably not going to be a "must-own" for me personally. Not a JJP bash, because I totally want them to succeed. As big of a LOTR geek that I am, I'd have to play Hobbit before purchasing. But to each his own.

As far as an earlier comment about lines for WOZ at TOF, keep in mind there were only 3 machines at the show, and of course most people there had never played one before so obviously the lines are going to stay long. This really has nothing to do with impressions of the machine itself, good, bad, or indifferent.