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EBD 84 CPR Playfield Swap

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#1 2 years ago

Documenting this really nice EBD 84 using a CPR playfield. It will be getting full torn down and rebuilt after cleaning. It already has new plastics and a lot of new parts that we will reuse. The plan is to replace any of the old coils with new as many are already new. Any mechs and flippers will be rebuilt. We will use new Titan_Pinball rings in white and some cool white Yoppsicles dyopp21 to finish it off. The GI is CW and will be reusing from ryanwanger Comet.

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#2 2 years ago
#3 2 years ago

Some initial top side pics.

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#4 2 years ago

Taking apart.

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#5 2 years ago

Bottom side:

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#6 2 years ago

Removing parts from the bottom.

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#7 2 years ago

Wanted to thank phillyfan64 for his huge help getting the parts order together for me and some details needed from when we did his. There's a hole we need to drill off of what CPR marks and some of the lighting sockets need to be the right height. He's been helping me get everything right.

Meanwhile, parts are being cleaned/tumbled...

#8 2 years ago

Pop bumper mechs.

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#9 2 years ago

Saucer eject and ball return mechs.

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#11 2 years ago

Nope, I just tried everywhere today. I’m going to have to reuse these. Thankfully they’re decent.

#14 2 years ago

Some more mechs about to be torn down for cleaning.

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#15 2 years ago

Some top and bottom sides getting parts.

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#16 2 years ago

The supervisor doing what she does best.

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#18 2 years ago
Quoted from phillyfan64:

I like the lamps boards on the 84. Makes wiring a bit easier.

Oh my yes! These Yoppsicles are great and clean things up too. But not having all those new lamp holders is so much nicer.

#19 2 years ago

Bottom side is about ready with lighting.

DOH! Missed a section of ground braid so here it is done. I’m sure there’s more I’ll have to follow back with.

phillyfan64 was a huge help again with the lighting, heights and part numbers.

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#20 2 years ago

Posts are about all in. This title, due to some errors in the holes (and with the rails stapled and not screwed), requires getting plastics in place or lined up.

The left rail needs the plastics in place so I can line it up and make holes to screw down.

and the one rear left plastic will need lined up to make the correct hole. More on that soon…

New Titan rings are now on.

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#21 2 years ago

Here’s the post hole that’s way off as is. I followed the path I did with like on phillyfan64 where we used a T nut that I had to flush up to the playfield so the mech would sit. Originally it’s a screw stud, but since we are making a hole anyway, and it can take a beating, a through post makes more sense.

They’re out of order because when I sort them on whatever POS IOS beta I’m on crashes it.

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#22 2 years ago

More top side corrections. I have the left side rails back on. Set the plastics on the studs and then line things up.

As you can see the ball guide sticks out. I moved it back to match the plastic and made a new hole. The old hole is hidden. More gooder.

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#23 2 years ago

I cursed a lot tonight. These bells and the stupid setup are a huge PITA. But the left side is done.

Earned this GM tonight.

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#24 2 years ago

The supervisor is ready for treats…

So tonight is a wrap.

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#27 2 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Umm, I think your new ball guide rail position will cause ball hop onto that upper left flipper. You want to align the rail so ball roll to the flipper is smooth.
She's looking nice!

You’re right. I tested with a flipper bat and no rubber! So back to adjusting the plastic with the original hole. This is one of the worst ones for anything lining up well I’ve done. They all need tweaks but damn.

It’s back and looks better now.

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#29 2 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

You might not get enough current draw on the LED you have installed in the solenoid expander socket to reliably switch the relay.

Thanks. I was wondering but just recycling what it came with.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from PBMAN:

Anyone who might have any interest in the old playfield make me an offer. Proceeds going directly to Dave as an Additional Tip.

Don’t tell them that lol! They’ll make me pay they to take it!

#34 2 years ago

New bases for pop bumpers are really nice. Assembled them along with new wrappers, rebuild, and spoons.

Making some progress underneath. Many switches are lined up. They might as well left off the dimples as they’re in another galaxy. I’m lucky to find one hole line up on anything.

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#35 2 years ago

The supervisor was busy tonight too.

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#38 2 years ago

New tubing on switches so they don’t look so trashy.

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#39 2 years ago

It probably doesn’t look like it but there was 3 hours of soldering just the one side.

Saucer and single drop mechs installed.

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#42 2 years ago
Quoted from djblouw:

Are the new pop bumper bases 3D printed? Or molded like the original?

They look 3D printed but nice resolution.

#43 2 years ago

I’m finally back at it. Had a small window to get my Lightning wrapped up and ready for inspection and a test drive resulted in the rear calipers seized up after compressing for new pads/rotors. Anyway, new lines and calipers afforded my first real drive after nearly having it for two months.

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#44 2 years ago

Installed the four bank drop target. It’s switches received new clear tubing along with the right side switches.

Most of the right side is now soldered.

I still have the large target bank to rebuild, wait for a Nyloner I missed on one sling, install the left rear plastic, wrap up the flippers and adjust switches. I’m sure I’m missing a few things.

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#45 2 years ago

#ditchpinside

#47 2 years ago

Agreed! This is one of the biggest PITA areas. When there were still relatively new and out making money, did Bally sell these plastics as complete with the new bells and all I wonder. I can see a tech saying screw this trying to do it lol.

#49 2 years ago

Soldering is finally done. Flippers are all done and adjusted. Drop target assembly is torn down and being cleaned.

Top left plastic is installed with limited cursing.

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#50 2 years ago

And thanks to phillyfan64 again as he confirmed two lamps wiring. Apparently there are some differences in the manual from the original to these later runs. Not surprisingly.

#52 2 years ago
Quoted from thierryv:

Nice work , but do I notice yellow wires on the non banded side of the diode ???

I'll have to double check. It could have happened.

#54 2 years ago

Confirmed that my wiring is correct and following as original.

EDIT: Thanks for that guys. I was following the original. Thankfully just talked to the owner and they were put in before it came to me. I'll be correcting them. Looks like I'll have to check over the flipper wiring too.

#58 2 years ago

All good and glad you said something. I even double checked the pics from tear down and it makes sense.

Made the corrections. Had to fix one of the slings too. I’m used to doing later Sys11b/c and newer and you don’t have to worry much unless it’s older.

All good now. The boss confirmed she’s done working on the old playfield.

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#59 2 years ago

GI is good!

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#60 2 years ago

Inserts look good too. I found an incandescent for the solenoid board and put it in as recommended. PBMAN can swap it if he wants but this is what should be done.

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#63 2 years ago

Slings are wrapped up as well as the monster mech of all mechs. New clear tubing used.

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#64 2 years ago

It’s done!!! I got yelled at by the boss because I didn’t install the apron.

Switches are all adjusted and it’s ready to go.

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#65 2 years ago

PBMAN has the playfield so hoping for some pics in the near future of it in use.

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#67 2 years ago
Quoted from phillyfan64:

See piece of cake. Bally’s aren’t so bad. You’re an expert by now!

It would help if I had one to be more familiar! They have beautiful artwork for sure.

#69 2 years ago

That is a bummer but excited to see it running after he takes care of it.

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