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Early Bally SS Backbox to cabinet hinges

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    #1 1 year ago
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    Early Bally SS Backbox to cabinet hinges

    Added: 2022-01-19 18:45:24 UTC • Ended: May 20th, 2022

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    My Frontier project is missing the backbox hinges, this is the same type as my Flash Gordon on the picture and not the later run Fathom type. Thanks!


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    #2 1 year ago
     
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    PM Rixzilla he might be able to help.

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    #3 1 year ago
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    hisokajp

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    Quoted from tomdrum:

    PM Rixzilla he might be able to help.

    i did try him, no luck though

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    #4 1 year ago
     
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    Next try Pbpins

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    #5 1 year ago
     
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    Then Lovef2k

    All friends who will help if they can.

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    #6 1 year ago
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    nice will PM then too!

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    #7 1 year ago
     
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    jj44114

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    For FG any commercial hinge will work. It’s a standard hinge. eBay will have many

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    #8 1 year ago
     
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    gdonovan

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    Quoted from jj44114:

    For FG any commercial hinge will work. It’s a standard hinge. eBay will have many

    Nah, I spent weeks looking for the right one.

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    #9 1 year ago
     
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    jj44114

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    They are pretty easy to find

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    #10 1 year ago
     
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    jj44114

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    They are just flat standard hinges. The later ones like fathom and centaur are the ones hard to find

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    #11 1 year ago
     
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    jj44114

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    Search on zoro. You will the exact size hinge

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    #12 1 year ago
     
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    This is the correct FG hinge.

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    #13 1 year ago
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    Quoted from tomdrum:

    This is the correct FG hinge.
    [quoted image][quoted image]

    they do look pretty std, let me take measurement from my FG ones then.

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    #14 1 year ago
     
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    Quoted from jj44114:

    They are just flat standard hinges. The later ones like fathom and centaur are the ones hard to find

    They are not, I spent weeks looking for the exact lift off hinge used.

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    #15 1 year ago
     
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    Brady2Gronk

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    I'm looking for them too and these are not exactly correct but are nice. You can either alter the hole pattern or drill your own holes to match. I think this is what I'm going to do.

    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/9299RH-32
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    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/NHSS80630LF

    Thoughts?

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    #16 1 year ago
     
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    Quoted from Brady2Gronk:

    I'm looking for them too and these are not exactly correct but are nice. You can either alter the hole pattern or drill your own holes to match. I think this is what I'm going to do.
    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/9299RH-32
    or
    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/NHSS80630LF
    Thoughts?

    Closest I have seen yet.

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    #17 1 year ago
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    Quoted from Brady2Gronk:

    I'm looking for them too and these are not exactly correct but are nice. You can either alter the hole pattern or drill your own holes to match. I think this is what I'm going to do.
    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/9299RH-32
    or
    https://www.guden.com/Item/Stainless-Slip-Hinges/NHSS80630LF
    Thoughts?

    ohhh those looks nice, i'll order a few and try it out. Looks like the screws on my FG are different size, 5/8" unto the head and 3/4" in the cabinet.

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    #18 1 year ago
     
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    I spoke to pps about making these, but he needs a sample.

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    #19 1 year ago
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    Quoted from Pinball_Basement:

    I spoke to pps about making these, but he needs a sample.

    if the ones i bought online works i could replace the factory ones on my FG and send them as sample?

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    #20 1 year ago
     
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    pindel

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    Either one of these should work great. amazon.com link »

    amazon.com link »

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    #21 1 year ago
     
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    gdonovan

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    Quoted from pindel:

    Either one of these should work great. amazon.com link »
    amazon.com link »
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    The hinge is not deep enough, the screws will intersect the 45 degree cut and not enough meat so will rip out the wood.

    Ask how I know.

    Been there, tried it.

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    #22 1 year ago
     
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    Quoted from hisokajp:

    if the ones i bought online works i could replace the factory ones on my FG and send them as sample?

    Yes.

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    #23 1 year ago
     
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    Quoted from gdonovan:

    The hinge is not deep enough, the screws will intersect the 45 degree cut and not enough meat so will rip out the wood.
    Ask how I know.
    Been there, tried it.

    Worst case scenario would be to get longer screws and maybe shim the hinge if needed. Once the head is up and bolted it does almost nothing.

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    #24 1 year ago
     
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    Brady2Gronk

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    I printed out the PDF from Guden and the outside two holes line up on the 3 hole one I linked. Just the one center hole is different and would need to be re-drilled into the cabinet / backbox. The old holes will be covered up so no big. That's what I ordered. One RH and one LH. I think it's the best option I've come across.

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    #25 1 year ago
     
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    Quoted from pindel:

    Worst case scenario would be to get longer screws and maybe shim the hinge if needed. Once the head is up and bolted it does almost nothing.

    The screws stick out the overhang over the playfield glass.

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    #27 1 year ago
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    Alright, i tried the hinges from Guden, they work well, size and holes are a bit all over the place so need to be careful they are installed in the right place for head to stand up in the right place and get the bolt from head through into cabinet nuts.

    3rd picture is comparing Bally original on the left to the new one from Guden

    Pinball_Basement if you PM me about PPS remaking those, i can either sent you the one i took out from my FG or send it to PPS directly?

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