he can be out there with the lights but horses for courses. Nice to have in a line up but I guess 3 Dwight pins in a row it would get a bit much. I personally don't have a problem with his programming.

I kinda think that's the point. (Although you really can see the ball, it's just that your eyes have to adjust.) It seems to me that he's doing a riff on AFM's strobe multiball. It's supposed to be challenging. You can always just time out the lighting effects by holding the ball (like on Winter Is Coming hurry-ups on GOT), but then you won't advance the game.

The light show on SW that you're referring to is during Escape from Boba Fett - the strobing lights are supposed to make it difficult to concentrate and distract you from the series of shot you're supposed to make.

I suppose he could put in an option to turn the lighting effects off altogether, but that would make the games lose some serious character and change the risk/reward setup of certain modes.

I think this is a legit question. I get a lot of complaints from visitors to my gameroom that Ghostbusters is just "too damn bright". The effects are awesome, but a bit too much. Or maybe we're all just getting old?

But I'm not sure that this is only with Dwight's games. For example, Hobbit can be pretty blinding as well.

I wonder if manufacturers include a "dark room test" in the development cycle? Where they test the game in total darkness to make sure it looks good in arcades and game rooms. Surely Stern are aware of the Ghostbusters being too bright? Everyone at TPF was mentioning this when they launched the game.

I keep hoping for some kind of brightness control in the menu for recent (LED) games to tone it down a notch.

One of the reasons I sold my ghostbusters. You work to start a multiball and the whole time it's strobing at you and you can't get anywhere. I love light shows, don't get me wrong but it's just over the top and ridiculous on ghostbusters.
Probably wouldn't buy another game with him programming it.

I have a simple solution for both my GOT and GB in my dark arcade:

I added spotlights to the slings, aimed at the main playfield, and powered by the coin door light so they are always on. This adds a good wash of light across the playfield, so when the inserts flash they don't strobe with that intense alternating contrast. It makes all the difference, and I can enjoy the intense insert light show without getting blinded.

Game of Thrones Pro - Winter is coming. I complained about it a lot. Some people found that to be a cool thing that felt like winter, but I found it blinding. So I 100% avoided playing it. Which meant I would NEVER play Winter had Come multiball. I think I played it twice while I owned the game, and my entire objective of that multiball was to catch one ball, and then dump the rest of them to end the multiball. Earning an extra ball meant I needed to literally look away from the game.

Was it over the top? Well it definitely contributed to my dissatisfaction with the game. Having to avoid modes and multiballs because of lights made it a bad game for me.

I was thinking of putting some gels under the inserts of these clear triangles next to the slingshots. They are the main "blinders". I would hope these would tone down the brightness. Green, blue or purple could even look cool.

Gels (image borrowed from Mezelmods website)

I totally agree, when i play the new Stern games they blind me. Especially GB and GOT.
If you put LEDs in a Sega or Data East they act the same. It really hurts my eyes.

I think the HORDE light on TWD might be worse than GB and GOT both. I know GOT can be turned down but I'm not sure about GB and TWD?

There is and it helps, but my solution also improves on it, and definitely helps with Winter is Coming.

I added spotlights to my TWD as well.

Well, the faster you hit the encessary shot the quicker the strobing goes away..its more annoying timing it out really

I agree with OP.

I have largely stopped playing the mentioned games due to the lights. Great effects and great games but in all cases, I cant handle the LED blinding.

I LOVE Dwight's light shows... It really makes the game come alive and adds personality. Think about the cool effects of ST Klingon Multiball start or the Winter is Coming in GOT. Those stand out to me and the game would be less without them. Part of what I play pinball for is to see the cool light shows. Keep it up Dwight!!!

The setting to reduce intense lighting effects does work.

My problem with GOT & GB is how often the GI is either strobing or off, that's what really screws with visibility for me. Especially if the GI is off when an spastic insert show is running. Much like with Frolic's spotlight solution, if the GI was mostly left alone (except for in places where you don't have an active ball you can lose anyway) it wouldn't be as bad.

I agree that WIC on GOT Pro is too blinding. I might try to hit it once, but if I miss I will just catch, hold it, and wait. I love the game, but that one thing just annoys the heck out of me.

Not sure how to rate this in general. Every game is different and haven't played many games in the dark. I actually prefer to have some light in the room at home. I do like a bright light show and love when the game blows up at critical parts in the game. I get that some people don't like things that bright and I have to admit it can be frustrating losing track of the ball on a good game because of flashers. However, I much rather have a bright game that a dimly lit one. Seeing a dimly lit game with incandescent bulbs on location depresses me. Putting in leds and getting all the colors to pop just adds so much to any game.

I think GOT has one of the best light shows ever. It's crazy strong and in your face. Love it!!!

I'm a huge fan of the light shows in GOT, GB and SW! Different strokes. As mentioned you can definitely dial them down in settings or add an always on spot.

Exactly - Change the settings. Why does everything on Pinside needs to turn into a whine-fest?

Understood. Lighting effects can help create a more intense and dramatic atmosphere. I think Dwight is the best in the business at doing that.

I played GOT - I would need to wear sunglasses to play this game on a regular basis as the inserts are not screened in a way to diffuse the leds.

KISS is way better as inserts are not see through.

Light shows are great but not when you can see the led bulbs through inserts....

No really, 50% like it or don't care either way. 90% of pinside seems to hate every game ever made so I'd say satisfying half the crowd is pretty good.

Forgot to vote. Done!

Well really I timed it out by selling the game

I found it blinding.

50% is not a lot when it's out of 50 votes and on a website were people tend to literally hate everything. I think menu adjustments are a good idea to help balance it out for people that don't like it but still you will have people that whine because they think all LED's are to bright and that they are the devil.

If you put a poll asking is Lyman's code on his last several games way to complicated you would have a bunch of people that say it is and that they just want to bash the ball around and have a flashing light that tells them everything. If you did a poll about LCD's you would probably have 50% that claim they are not needed or wanted and they just want a score real.

Well we all have our analities