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Dungeons and Dragons Rebuild

By Tallon

5 years ago

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#51 3 years ago

Here is a shot of the striped front. Again, it appears to be black plastic


#52 3 years ago

I just recently acquired one of these beauties and I've been going through and getting it up to snuff. I've been debating on if I want to attempt a playfield touch up and clear coat, so I look forward to seeing your progress! I've got the little black marks on the warriors legs (and other light colored areas) just like yours.

#53 3 years ago

I have been lacking this week mostly since we got a cold snap and 10" of snow. I know it's Easter Sunday but I'm hoping to hit it hard this weekend and get a ton done.

#54 3 years ago

And here we go. The playfield has gone out to clear coat and as of this past Tuesday was ready for wax and re-population. Since I posted a couple pics in the Vid's PF restore thread I wasn't going to go thru it here but it look too damn nice not to.
Here is what we started with.....2014-06-30_22.31.10_(resized).jpg2014-06-30_22.30.49_(resized).jpg
and here is what we have now....2016-03-08_21.14.00_(resized).jpg2016-03-09_16.50.32_(resized).jpg

and a little side by side of the ball trail repair. 2014-06-30_22.30.07_(resized).jpg2016-03-08_21.14.29_(resized).jpg

All in all I very pleased with how the touchups came out. I hand painted everything either making a template or just free handing it.

I had many conversations with person clear coating the PF and followed his instruction to the letter. From what I could use on the PF for paint to what I couldn't use (pencil for layout) to the type of scuff pad he liked to use for giving the PF bit for the clear. If your thinking about doing this, I would recommend talking to the person doing the clear coat for you and get detailed instructions like I did. It truly looks like it was dipped in glass!

#55 3 years ago

Lets talk about flaps for a sec. I wanted to clean up the blue spring steel instead of replacing it because the metal was 3 different thicknesses and some pretty funky shapes. I know a lot of people like to just replace it but seeing as I'm running short on time and I know I wouldn't be happy with the results of hand cutting the metal, we are going to re-blue the flaps for the side playfields and the magic saves. I decided to leave the magic saves attached to the ball guides since we are just trying to clean up a ball trail. The other flaps have a little rust on them (like all D&D machines) so we will strip them and totally redo them. After a little shopping at gander (yes I got ammo too) I came home with this. 2016-03-26_21.24.11_(resized).jpg

The Magic Saves are in good shape they just have a ball trail so they will not get stripped 2016-03-26_21.23.59_(resized).jpg

The flaps are a little rusted and have some pretty ugly ball track too.2016-03-26_21.23.53_(resized).jpg

This is a pretty nasty smelling process and since your working with cold chemical blue, I recommend gloves and some form of eye protection (you don't want this crap in your eye). Following the directions I cleaned everything with the cleaner/de-greaser and rinsed with water. Immediately dry every thing to keep the metal from re-rusting. The next step is to strip the metal. The direction say to rub on and leave sit for 2 minutes. It also suggests you use a little steel wool soaked in stripper and rub to remove stuck on bluing. I suggest you just got for it with the steel wool to start with. I find it helps to even out the metal and gets everything off in one treatment instead of having to go back over it again. Again, rinse in water and dry immediately to help prevent rusting.2016-03-26_21.30.52_(resized).jpg

Next we clean/de-grease again (use the steel wool again) and rinse.

Now we start the bluing process. I got the paste kit as I thought it would help stick better. Same instruction as before, rub on and leave sit for 30 seconds then rinse in COLD water. This is where is gets interesting. I followed the everything to the letter for the first coat. Knowing it would take at least 3 coats I could play around a bit. I noted that the first coat came out a bit blotchy and I attributed it to uneven coating. As you can see, the paste kind of clumps even when spread around. 2016-03-26_21.44.48_(resized).jpg2016-03-26_21.44.52_(resized).jpg

I decided to go back to the steel wool since the your suppose to polish in between with it in between coats. I helps to clean up the blotches but I still didn't like it so I just used the steel wool to apply the bluing. I also used it to help polish the metal while I was rinsing. Worked like a charm and helped even the coats out. I stopped at 3 coats since it seemed to match the original color there. The last step was to polish the metal with clean steel wool and seal the metal with a finishing oil wipe. I'm very happy with the results and see no reason not to do this again. 2016-03-26_22.06.29_(resized).jpg2016-03-26_22.06.32_(resized).jpg

#56 3 years ago

Looking good. When all is said and done put a color changing LED bulb behind the backglass... it makes the game look even cooler!

#57 3 years ago

Good to see you are getting things done

#58 3 years ago

So it was in the 50s today and since it wasn't snowing for once, I got a lot done on the D&D. I started the day clearing another cabinet (not D&D ) and worked the star rollovers with a microfile to clean out any clear coat that was binding it up. 2016-03-28_11.31.56_(resized).jpgIn between coats of paint I also got the side rails on the playfield and started attaching the aux wiring harness to the backboard. Stopped when I figured out I needed to have some power to make sure the LED were working and got the other D&D set up so I could test it out. 2016-03-28_12.51.18_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_12.51.23_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_12.51.02_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_11.58.52_(resized).jpg

After some "testing" to make sure the second machine was working right, I got down to going over the cabinet. The neck was more then a little beat up and every screw had some rust on it. Screws in the tumbler, neck scuffed and re-painted. 2016-03-28_12.11.21_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_12.11.35_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_13.58.11_HDR_(resized).jpg

After getting the neck out and cleaned up, I took a good look at the front and back of the cabinet itself. They were ok but my OCD wouldn't let it go. Since they don't make replacement decals and these are in nice shape, I masked off the sides and shot fresh paint on the exposed areas.2016-03-28_13.58.22_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_13.58.32_(resized).jpg I let it flash and got the masking off to let it dry 2016-03-28_15.26.41_(resized).jpg

About this time I got a call from powder coat. My order was ready and I was like a kid on Christmas. 2 sets of bally legs in black chrome and the grill and side plated in flat black. I even got 3 sets of leg bolts coated to match the legs. 2016-03-28_14.39.34_(resized).jpg2016-03-28_14.40.58_(resized).jpg

Last order of business for the evening was to get the neck all put back together and get speaker and grill installed. 2016-03-28_18.02.18_(resized).jpg

All in all, she is coming along. Got most of the playfield harness laid out but having a hell of a time getting it re-run. Will be working the underside of the playfield for most of the week.

Stay Tuned.......

#59 3 years ago


#60 3 years ago

So I have had a couple bad days this week but today everything kind of fell into place. Ran into a couple problems with assembly order and pretty much had to take the harness back off the playfield during the week. I only had a few hours each night to really look at it and nothing was really working so I stopped until today. Here is the nightmare I started with this morning. 2016-04-03_08.09.17_(resized).jpg

After many hours and some hair pulling I'm here 2016-04-03_23.49.34_(resized).jpg2016-04-03_23.49.41_(resized).jpg LEDs are installed throughout. hopefully I have them installed the right way.

As a side note, anyone who bitched about lamp boards, this is what you have to deal with without them. 2016-04-03_16.53.14_(resized).jpg2016-04-03_16.53.18_(resized).jpg That's a good 2 hours soldering to get all the leads back where they needed to go and I didn't pull the ground braids!

Harbor Freight got benchtop buffers back in FINALLY so we are going to spend most of the morning tomorrow doing this 2016-04-03_17.48.19_(resized).jpg

Last but not least I started on both side playfields and should have both of them installed tomorrow. The backboard will also be installed tomorrow.


#61 3 years ago

Progress was a bit slower today. Got all of the metal buffed out and a real nice shine on the lockdown receiver hooks and the apron brackets. Nice before and after.2016-04-04_11.27.48_(resized).jpg2016-04-04_10.07.37_(resized).jpg2016-04-04_10.07.28_(resized).jpg2016-04-04_10.07.17_(resized).jpg

After that I I was working on attaching the side playfields and noticed some black dirt on my new playfield. Turns out the foam in the stand up targets was done 2016-04-04_14.39.17_(resized).jpg. Quick trip the the hardware store and we are good. 2016-04-04_14.23.36_(resized).jpg2016-04-04_14.37.13_(resized).jpg

Last, I helped move a few pins and got the side rails and lockdown re-grained but I'm too tired to finish cleaning then tonight. I'll post pics tomorrow

#62 3 years ago

ACE Hardware to the rescue

#63 3 years ago

Lots more assembly done today. After putting the head on I decided it looked like crap compared to the cabinet it repainted so I blew 2 hours masking and painting the head quick2016-04-06_17.50.22_(resized).jpg

I had a door powder coated but the hinge was coated shut. I was going to pull the pin out but while I was hammering it out, the hinge broke loose. We got the door installed and it looks great!2016-04-06_17.50.06_(resized).jpg

Side rails and lockdown bar were re-grainded a couple day ago so I cleaned them up with some novus 3 and then waxed them with some mothers. 2016-04-06_17.49.46_(resized).jpg they look great 2016-04-06_19.29.48_(resized).jpg

I populated more of the playfield and got the apron on 2016-04-06_19.39.08_(resized).jpg

I have my first real work stoppage of this project as I had to keep my hand elevated for 10 minutes 2016-04-06_20.26.41_(resized).jpg

When I could get back at it, I drilled out all the holes for the wires on the playfield and got all of them installed. I HIGHLY recommend doing this as even with the drilling, the clear coat pulls a little. I can only imagine it would crack like an egg if you just hammered them in 2016-04-06_21.29.06_(resized).jpg

I was actually ready to turn it on 2 hours earlier but was just a bit nervous. Finally got to the point I had to because the plastics covered a bunch of the lights. I decided to go with LEDs but kept it a little less radiant. Staying with bulbs for the flashers as I don't like the led ones. Spent another hour going thru the bulbs and sockets getting everything up and running. It looks great. 2016-04-06_21.52.22_(resized).jpg

I know I missed some stuff yesterday but I was really throwing myself into getting this done. I would like to get it on the truck for MGC.

#64 3 years ago

Lookin' good

#65 3 years ago

Nice job, can't wait to see it at mgc.

#66 3 years ago

fantastic job!!!!!! d&d is a great game.mine is a keeper for me.

#67 3 years ago

Well, it's on the truck. Final pics tomorrow at MGC. Still kicking a couple gremlins out but she was playing FAST before we wrapped her up. Progress for today was the Punchout list. Little bit of everything. Best description would be a basic shop job clean, rubbers, adjust and clean pop bumpers and switches, clean and wax playfield, and clean and novus plastics. All the lights are now working and look really good with the LEDs. No real action shots today as I was really feeling the time crunch. One shot of the cleaned pop bumper rings was all.2016-04-07_10.39.04_(resized).jpg

See you all at MGC

#68 3 years ago

looking pretty f'ing good man
you need a topperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, really completes the game (plus you can go blind or have epilepsy from the flashers )
careful this machine with a clearcoated playfield is a beast, its soooooo fast

nice work on the touch ups

leds are great, just be careful with orange yellow red to keep it warm not cool, we are heroic fantasy themed here ^^

nice upgrade is adding a light on the upper left area, it has been mentioned on the DD club post

god i miss this pin

#69 3 years ago

Everyone is welcome to come play the beast. It is SUPER fast. Come on down do MGC and say hi. image_(resized).jpg

#70 3 years ago


#71 3 years ago

beeeeeeeeeeeee ohhhhhh tea fullllllllllllllllll

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