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Dual butterfly trip

By pinballslave

9 years ago


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    #1 9 years ago

    Just thought I'd share my amazement at just coming back from a business trip and managing to get a complete Papillon (by a Spanish company) PLUS, from a completely different seller in another country, the backglass from the French version of a game with the same name, and amazingly similar backglass artwork (but completely different playfield).

    The co-incidence is kind of shocking in a way... The seller of the French glass was taken aback a bit when I opened the rear door of my car to put the glass in when she was confronted with this 'alternate version' of what looked like the same game... plus the car stacked to the roof with pinballs managed to squeese 4 games in this Toyota Granvia on this trip!! (and still have a passenger seat).

    there are no images of the Spanish version anywhere I can find on the net, and the IPDB doesn't even mention the game... so you see it first on Pinside

    I'll be uploading all the images I have for the Spanish game to the IPDB as soon as I get them to make a page for it, and also to pinside... the playfield is kind of something special

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    The French one is on the right, and the Spanish one on the left by the way...

    #2 9 years ago

    Wow looking forward to seeing this!!! Makes you wonder just how many titles are out there and are not listed anywhere.

    #3 9 years ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    Makes you wonder just how many titles are out there and are not listed anywhere.

    I bet there's 100s to be honest... The Spanish were very prolific in the 80's I think, and a lot of stuff that got made was kept in Spain... and with all that hot Spanish blood influencing the artwork, there's some interesting stuff to be discovered!

    #4 9 years ago

    French one looks great....But the scoring displays don't line up, so you won't be able to use it in your game

    #5 9 years ago
    Quoted from robertmee:

    But the scoring displays don't line up, so you won't be able to use it in your game

    I'm not planning to... the French one is just for gameroom decoration... I'll use the Spanish one in my game (since it's the Spanish game). Also, the French one won't fit in the head of the Spanish game because it's a completely different size

    #6 9 years ago

    Far out back glass pinballslave

    #8 9 years ago

    Here's a pic of the main artwork of the Spanish version playfield... you see it first on Pinside

    I could hold a competition for best quote of what the guy's thinking

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    #9 9 years ago

    One of the rumors is when an operator in spain wanted to swap out games on location, he was required to literally destroy the ones being removed. No third party or reselling was allowed. So what was originally a rare 600 game production run turned out to be a 40-50 game survival rate from back then, most of those survivors are now in the hands of private collectors, even fewer of which have any interest in the internet. It's just a rumor I heard - I have no first hand knowledge of any such deals. Who made your spanish Papillon game?
    It looks like either Inder or Videodens?

    #10 9 years ago

    Interesting romor Destruk... I'll have to ask my Spanish contact if he's heard this too...

    This game is by Videodens... The French one is by Jeutel by the way...

    #11 9 years ago

    Hey pinballslave, you keep amazing me with your finds of Euro games. Keep telling us about them and provide detailed documentation.

    Destruk, the legislation on coin-op games, even non-gambling or hazard ones, is rather bizaare some places. And varies a lot from country to country in Europe (like region to region in the US). At least historically.

    #12 9 years ago

    beautiful backglass and artwork

    #13 9 years ago

    As an interesting point, the playfield is covered with a plastic sheet about 4mm (1/8inch) thick, a bit like on Electra, but half as thick... The small dot in front of the woman's ribs is actually a matal clamp that fixes this plastic sheet to the playfield (to stop it bowing up in the middle). The problem is, if dirt gets between this plastic sheet and the playfield, it's a headhache to clean out (and this has happened at the edges)... Must check underneath and see if that clamp is pulled down by a nut or if it's a kind of rivet!!

    Also, where you normally get obvious lens inserts, on this the lenses appears to be part of the artwork... like the green triangles pointing at the left standups, and the 5 blue rectangles on the entry to the left lane...

    And a final bit of trivia; Papillon is French for Butterfly... but the Spanish is Mariposa (apparently!)... so clearly the Spanish stole the game and backglass artwork from the French and couldn't be bothered to change the game name to their own language

    #14 9 years ago

    Gives new definition to the word "Playfield"

    #15 9 years ago
    Quoted from pinballslave:

    there are no images of the Spanish version anywhere I can find on the net, and the IPDB doesn't even mention the game... so you see it first on Pinside

    That's too cool! Just let me know which games to add and I'll make database entries.

    The info I need:

    Machine name
    Manufacturer name and country
    Year (and month if possible) of release

    The rest can be edited by yourself after I create the database record!

    #16 9 years ago

    pinballslave, I created an avatar for you, hope you like!

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    #17 9 years ago

    You dropped a bomb on me, baby..

    #18 9 years ago

    That playfield is the bomb - chain reaction of satisfaction!

    #19 9 years ago
    Quoted from robin:

    Just let me know which games to add and I'll make database entries.

    You already created a page for this game Robin after I sent you the basic info on it before I got hold of it... I'll also upload more pics when I have time...

    Quoted from CrazyFliprFingrs:pinballslave, I created an Avatar for you, hope you like!

    That's very kind of you CFF, I like it and may try it for size later The Seawitch lady of your av is one of my favourite playfield women, I have this playfield decorating part of my store... she's hot... as drawings go!

    Quoted from Winball_Pizard:

    You dropped a bomb on me, baby..

    I'm perplexed at what this vid might be of... shame I can't see it now... I've a very strict firewall at work

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    #21 9 years ago

    Jeutel always made original playfield design, but artworks were fully under influences.

    The Papillon's one is taken from the cover of an obscure disco space opera named "sunshine on the world.

    Nothing to tell about the music, but artwork is amazing. ^^

    Enjoy!

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    #22 9 years ago

    Very nice

    #23 9 years ago

    That's amazing LorenZ, really nice to see... now I want to track a copy of this album down just to have the artwork to o with the glass and the other game... and to hear the music of course, even if it's rubbish!

    By the way, is there any connection between the album and the pinball name Papillon, apart from the central kissing figures looking like a butterfly that is...?

    #24 9 years ago

    By the way, is there any connection between the album and the pinball name Papillon, apart from the central kissing figures looking like a butterfly that is...?

    I don't think there's any connections, Jeutel used to take visual parts everywhere, on the "apocalypse" U could find John Rambo with a mustache.

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    #25 9 years ago

    Nice thread! Somehow it slipped by me three weeks ago. Very interesting stuff!

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