Evan,

What actually drops the 'D' target? Looking at the manual, I don't spot it. Mancave mentioned a loop of wire? What solenoid actually pulls it down? Item 4 in the drawing pops them up.

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Pc 19 is a small coil with a wire attached to it--the dotted line coming out of Pc 19. The coil rotates the wire when it fires and a bend in the wire bumps the middle target. You can sort of see it in the picture on post #3230

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/dredd-owners-thread-members-only/page/65#post-5224474

Thanks Howard - live and learn, I guess.

I've owned the pin for two years, and I don't recall ever seeing it drop (maybe I simply missed it). I can test this from the menu?

Yes. Go into test mode > solenoid tests. Cycle through them until you find something like "trip drop targ". You'll have to close the coin door ( or at least push the closed door buttons manually) to let power flow to solenoid for test.

The wire mentioned is held captive by the strip of black plastic that is screwed to the main body of the assembly (item 20 in the diagram) At the bottom of the plastic it has little "claws" for want of a better term that hold the wire in place when the plastic is screwed on, which prevents the wire from falling down into the assembly and rendering that loop useless. Quite often when the center target isn't dropping properly it's because that plastic is broken and the wire has dropped.

Son of a gun...it did drop in the test mode. LOL, never noticed that during game play!

Thanks for info guys.

Here is how the 5 bank works:

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We were dicussing the other day, isn't JD the only 90s B/W with a 5 bank drop target? Or that many period?

Holy cow, did you build that cad model just for this thread?

Thanks Davi! Where in the heck did you get that image?!

It's not my merit.
When I was in a hunt for a drop target, I found this cad drawing.

Just a quick repost in case anybody can help (or direct me to a better place to post?)

The plastic "plunger" under the sniper tower is jumping out of the housing when it's triggered and I can't seem to get it to lock/latch in any way. Is there something I could be missing, or does it need adhesive or something?

Any help is hugely appreciated as it killing me removing the pf everytime it happens

The black plastic popper cup should have a screw in the middle which screws into the end of the popper rod to keep it attached.
Missing the screw? or is the cup itself busted out around the screw hole? The popper rod itself shouldn't be able to come out as it goes through the coil and has a flattened end on it.
Rod reference >> https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-6306-2
Popper cup reference >> https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-8561
Screw reference >> https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/4106-01152-06
According to the manual that's the screw used anyway

Would anybody be interested in a picture of the switch on the crane magnet?

Thanks for the reply, massively helpful. This is what I'm working with :/
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It seems like it clips onto the bar inside the spring, but this isn't holding in place. Once it's in and you apply gentle pressure it lifts the plunger in the coil, but if you put it under any stress it pops out again.

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Do you know where i can find the 3D of the plastic crane + metal arm + magnet?
Working on a mod to replace all, here the concept.
Thanks

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Is that shaft under the cap metal? hard to tell in the pic cause it's as black as the cap. If that's the case then the popper rod shaft is broken?? I'm wondering if that's the correct assembly??

The whole plunger is plastic. I may just try a dot of gorilla glue for now as a intermittent fix and order the part you mentioned.

Out of curiosity, how does the shaft adhere to the main mechanism? Is it a clip on the bottom or is it wedged into the spring itself?

Just picked up a JD over the weekend and had a couple questions.

One being about the right ramp. I've noticed when you nail the right ramp that the ball can really sail through fast and ends up jumping off the rail on it's way to the right flipper. There's nothing to really slow it down, and bending the rail to more of an incline doesn't seem like it will help. Should there be a ball flap or something to slow the ball down or does this happen on all JD machines?

Another question is about the sniper tower coil, it randomly keeps firing sometimes after playing for a bit. I'm thinking the coil either gets hot, and needs replaced, or the opto is misfiring and needs cleaned/adjusted. I'll be testing it further in the next couple days, just wasn't sure if it's a common problem or not.

Need an Air Raid ramp, but I guess it's going to be a little tough to find. Last night, the ball knocked a chunk off. It actually broke in a decent place to where I can kind of snap it back in, but can anyone give me any advice what I could use to repair the plastic? Some kind of glue? I definitely have to rig something up before I can play it again.
Of course this had to happen only 2 games after installing a colordmd, art blades, and eagle topper. Felt so good for 10 minutes then this lol. Still damn pretty though!

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Glue won't eliminate the root cause. This is a design flaw: as you can see, there is a deformation on the metal protector (next to target). This metal takes over all the force to the plastic ramp. That's why so many broken Air Raid ramp out there.
I am also looking for suggestions, how to protect the ramp.

I have no info about other drawing.

You need to rebend the "T" bracket to the oblong target... so as to move the target face
forward... so as it could buffer/protect the edge of the metal wall to the ramp.
Consecutive hits to the exposed edge of the metal ramp protector most likely
caused it to break.

The attachment point for the ramp to sling is broken on many JD’s which effects the geometry of the ramp causing the ball to fly off. Cliffy makes a repair kit that works sometimes. People also use a couple washers to hold it to the attachment point. A picture would help.

Doubt the sniper coil is bad. Sounds like a switch issue. Take it apart to inspect and clean. Windex on q-tip for opto then dry with other end of q-tip.

The assembly drawing is in the manual available on IMDb.org. Take the whole thing apart below playfield and inspect against the drawing. Don’t use gorilla glue. Order the parts and repair properly. Unusual for something like that to break. It doesn’t fire frequently. The coil may have overheated at some point and deformed.

Is it supposed to be a plastic shaft that long with the cup on the end like in the pic though? according to the manual it's a metal rod with the plastic cup screwed onto the end. That was why i was suggesting in a previous post it may have the wrong parts, or did earlier versions have different popper assembly parts? The one on mine and the one on the project machine i did had a metal rod with the plastic cup like the links from Marco's i added.

That is because it is broken at where the hole for the pin is. Go buy a new pin and new plunger and you will be good to go.

Good catch. My game also has a metal shaft and screwed on cup and it’s an early sample game.

I have the same fly off issue on mine. It can be really annoying, especially when the ball sails directly into the outlane.

As for the sniper popper, it’s probably the opto there is starting to flake out. Just had the same thing happen, so I replaced the opto emitter and receiver and it’s all good now.

That’s fucking rad.

Holy crap Rage!! That is an awesome idea!! The crane never made any sense to me picking up a ball from a spinning planet. But the hand of Judge Death takes it to a whole different level!! First you make the awesome nuke towers and now this! Hopefully once you get it all figured out, you put me down on the list of one of those that want to send you money!!

ragefactory
Great work! Hope to see it for sale soon!

I have a brass apron. Does that mean mine is a sample game or something?

Does yours have the all the other features a sample game does?

Yes the ball flying off and draining has happened way too many times already for just getting the machine this past weekend. I'm going to check to see if what "luckymoey" suggested will help solve the problem.

I'll try cleaning the opto first to see if that helps the sniper tower problem.

I too have a brass apron and never thought too much of it. I know it's not a prototype because it's lacking those differences, but what is different between production and sample?

Not sure if posted here before but have a couple JD playfields from the WMS closout ... if interested email me and I can pull and see what condition, etc ...

[email protected]

What I could really use are some playfield plastics for mine.

Are those going to be in stock anytime soon?

Attached two pictures to see if what you are referring to is broken or not. I couldn't see anything specifically that would be missing/broken. Played a few more games last night and had several balls fly off the rail and drain.

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Your plastic ramp attachment tab looks great. Most are broken off or cracked. The only thing I see that could be contributing to the problem is your wire form is secured under the sling shot plastic when it should be on top of the plastic. Beyond that, you may need to just gently push up or down on the plastic ramp portion to adjust the angle of the wire form until it's dialed in.

Ok great, thanks for the tip. I'll try what you said and hopefully that will help.

Going through a parts-bin I found some JD parts.
But have two questions, the lamp-boards, is this a complete set?

About the pursuit-assy's, is there a right and left version? or do these come from two JD's and are they both for one side?

Thanks

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Yeah there is a right and left version. They look like 2 lefts to me.

Board set looks complete.
Pursuit assy set:

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Thanks guys, appreciated!

Thank you all, will give it a whirl.

Joined the club yesterday and I'm super happy with my machine! The machine is missing its topper, is a bit faded and the right flipper doesn't flip everytime you push the button. Other than that its near perfect and original! (And a lot cheaper than the $3500 machines currently on the Dutch marketplace lol)

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Does anyone have an LED list? I'm planning on making an LED order to either Cointaker or Comet for Black Friday.

Here's what I did with mine. The Playfield G.I. might be a bit off because I replaced some with Opmax bulbs from Comet...not at all necessary.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j08coRuUP04wOGhm_v68D4RiGTnjdsEqM90SvL9hJHs/edit?usp=sharing

Unfortunately, I didn't total everything up. If you do, let me know and I'll update the doc.

Also attached a photo of my backbox which was inspired by a TNT Amusements YouTube video.
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Anyone know what size the screws are that hold on the opto switches on the stacked wire forms (that connect to the ramps) in the upper right?