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Dragonfist restore and facelift

By wolffcub

4 years ago


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#51 4 years ago

The center scales needed to be tackled the correct way or it would have been a waste of time. Took the time to do a pattern and array it in Corel Draw to fit my area. Took some time to get the dxf to be recognized correctly from Corel so i brought it into Solidworks and worked some magic.

Lets play the jelly bean game!!! but can you guess how many dragon scales there are instead?
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Once down edges are trimmed so they can lay flat and not get under spray.

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#53 4 years ago

A little bit of a sacrifice had to be made trying to do the scales. The original pattern had some very small areas that would not have worked out well trying to reproduce. I think I came fairly close and it will do the trick. There are about 3400 scales if you realy care.

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Once cut its best to leave the cut sheet sit for a few days if possible for something like this. After the stencil material gets cut it will actually open up just a hair allowing the cut outs to actually remain on the backing and not get pulled up when peeling off your cut piece. You can see in the pic the separation.

#54 4 years ago

So there is a reasoning for doing all the black first if your wondering. If i were to paint the area red first then that means i would have had to transfer all the scales to the field and then sprayed back to get the outlines. Doing it that way would mean i would have to use a transfer tape to lift the scales off of the backing and then after applying it to the board tried to get the scales to stick properly and securely enough so they would not lift when trying to remove the transfer tape.

So I did it backwards. Black first then all i need to do it transfer the web to the board. This brings up another possible issue. Painting red over black gives you essentially black lol. Laying down a white or grey coat first and then the red can cause an issue when you lift your web after and you can possibly see the slight white or grey layer from the sides. Trick is to fool the eye with layers. First coat is a thin hot pink, then a cherry, and then the blood red. The lower test is an example of how it works well. The top is red just sprayed over black.

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#55 4 years ago

Sexy hot pink!

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#56 4 years ago

And a follow up of straight red.

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#57 4 years ago

Fairly close of a match.

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#58 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Fairly close of a match.[quoted image]

Oh yes. That is going to look like it just left the factory.

#59 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Fairly close of a match.[quoted image]

Geez. That is crazy beautiful!!...Nice work. Amazed by your mad skills!!

#60 4 years ago

Very nice work!

However, i'm puzzled. I see you favor masking/airbrushing, of which takes a ton of prep for each color. And you end up painting areas that don't necessarily need paint. Why would you not match the color that's there and paint the wear spots with a hand brush?

#61 4 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

Very nice work!
However, i'm puzzled. I see you favor masking/airbrushing, of which takes a ton of prep for each color. And you end up painting areas that don't necessarily need paint. Why would you not match the color that's there and paint the wear spots with a hand brush?

Great work! But I agree with Brenna. Your PF didn't look to bad at the start, at least in the pictures.

#62 4 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

Why would you not match the color that's there and paint the wear spots with a hand brush?

I'm guessing it has something to do with being a perfectionist.
It's looking pretty damn sharp!

#63 4 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

Very nice work!
However, i'm puzzled. I see you favor masking/airbrushing, of which takes a ton of prep for each color. And you end up painting areas that don't necessarily need paint. Why would you not match the color that's there and paint the wear spots with a hand brush?

Now you got me feeling worse about it.

#64 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Now you got me feeling worse about it.

That wasn’t my goal. Honest question.

I’ve used the frisket/airbrush method for white under plastics. In this case, I want the white brighter, so the airbrush makes sense.

In some colors that are a pain to match (like grays) it can make sense to paint the entire area.

#65 4 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

That wasn’t my goal. Honest question.
I’ve used the frisket/airbrush method for white under plastics. In this case, I want the white brighter, so the airbrush makes sense.
In some colors that are a pain to match (like grays) it can make sense to paint the entire area.

Using a brush makes the texture look like garbage. It's also harder to get consistent and even results.

The new colors look much better than the old. Like the airbrushed red is so much more vibrant than the original red with ball swirls. I am not sure that pictures always do justice to how much better it looks.

#66 4 years ago
Quoted from frisbez:

Using a brush makes the texture look like garbage. It's also harder to get consistent and even results.

You're not thinning out your paint enough then. Mix enough water in so when your brush touches the surface, the paint flattens out. If it doesn't, it's too thick and you will get brush marks.

I said in my post above: painting the entire area is sometimes needed. Faded color, lots of damage or ball swirls and difficult to match colors.

#67 4 years ago

Sometimes I'd rather repaint the whole thing than trying to match colors.... that way, the new area will ALWAYS match!

Sometimes I get lucky and find a color right out of the bottle that matches REALLY well.... there was a blue that matches the Bally Blackjack color really well, once applied you couldn't tell where it was.

#68 4 years ago

Over the top!

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#69 4 years ago

Cut more scales and put down the blue.

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#70 4 years ago

He’s got the blue measles.

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#71 4 years ago

Stand ups and drops got a little dressing.

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#72 4 years ago

Time for some airbrush splatter.

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#73 4 years ago

Splatter went down good. Just some black shade in a few areas by hand after.

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#74 4 years ago

Amazing !

#75 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Splatter went down good. Just some black shade in a few areas by hand after.

VERY nice work with the dragon scales and the splatter!

#76 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Splatter went down good. Just some black shade in a few areas by hand after.[quoted image]

Wolfcub, I don't know what you do for a living, but if you are not working in the artistic field you sure missed your calling.

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#77 4 years ago

Progress is being made on the other bits!

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#78 4 years ago

You can use 1000 grit sandpaper on the white plastic trim on the backglass sides and turn it white. Then polish it with wax. Will turn it white and make it shiny like everything you are doing.

#79 4 years ago

Beautiful! Fantastic work!

#80 4 years ago

I do love those target decals. Clever idea.

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#81 3 years ago

Boring stuff.....

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#82 3 years ago

More boring stuff.......

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#83 3 years ago

Really amazing work

#84 3 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Boring stuff.....
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Eye Candy.

#85 3 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

More boring stuff.......
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more Eye Candy.

#86 3 years ago

I will skip all the other steps in the painting process as it gets monotonous.

This is it all finished at last. Hope the owner thinks it was worth the wait.

Rails just need to be put on, and all the post holes to be drilled and beveled.

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#87 3 years ago

That looks awesome. Send it to Mirco so he can make us all customized DF playfields!

#88 3 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

I will skip all the other steps in the painting process as it gets monotonous.
This is it all finished at last. Hope the owner thinks it was worth the wait.
Rails just need to be put on, and all the post holes to be drilled and beveled. [quoted image][quoted image]

Well, if he does not like it, I'll pay you for your work and give him my play field

It looks super.

#89 3 years ago

Beautiful work, just beautiful.

#90 3 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

That looks awesome. Send it to Mirco so he can make us all customized DF playfields!

Agreed, I would absolutely replace my Dragonfist playfield

#91 3 years ago

Great job! We can certainly talk about a mass production.... the original would not get hurt...

Regards,
Mirco

#92 3 years ago
Quoted from Highclasspinball:

Great job! We can certainly talk about a mass production.... the original would not get hurt...
Regards,
Mirco

But it might not be returned in a timely manner either.

#93 3 years ago
Quoted from Highclasspinball:

Great job! We can certainly talk about a mass production.... the original would not get hurt...
Regards,
Mirco

You would have to change all of the custom fonts back to Stern Style fonts .

#94 3 years ago

I'd actually want the custom font - I like it.

#95 3 years ago
Quoted from slochar:

I'd actually want the custom font - I like it.

Some will like it. Some won't. Safer for a repro to match factory. And the bottom 4 inserts will need to be brought back to proper colors of yellow, green, blue, and pink.

#96 3 years ago

I think it would be a shame to replicate this one. Everyone and their dog would buy one and convert an old cab. So much for a rare title.

#97 3 years ago
Quoted from cottonm4:

Well, if he does not like it, I'll pay you for your work and give him my play field
It looks super.

Kind offer! I suspect he's going to be very happy!!

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#98 3 years ago

Now that’s a good polish !

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#99 3 years ago

With all the AMAZING work that wolffcub has done on the playfield, targets, etc. I have the task of trying to get the rest of the machine up to near the same level. It's tempting to keep the playfield as an art piece... but these machines are meant to be played!

The cabinet had some interesting layers of paint, grey was added on top of the blue for some reason. Also appears the head cabinet was initially going to be a Catacomb. Lots of sanding and patching!

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#100 3 years ago

Then some primer. Decided to do the whole inside and underside of the cabinet, not sure if there is a good reason why they don't do this from factory other than saving some paint. Guess I'll find out in time

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