I suggest taking all refunds and sending them to RIOT pinball to get in on WOOLY!

That would be the wisest thing you can all do.

Yeah, i can imagine that is a PITA. Also seems like there was a desire for some drama based on you being out of the company. Frankly it sounds like a messy spot for all involved.

poor analogy...

To me it sounds more like the building was already engulfed in flames and everyone was on sleeping pills and Phil was kind enough to yell "FIRE" and pull out who he could while putting himself in more danger the whole time.

Sounds like a hero to me?

Sounds like he gave then at least 6 weeks and even did most of the leg work for them to hand it all over.

The more that comes to light, the more it seems they were using his SSN as a way to keep him on the hook and filter US funds to Dutch funds.

too little, too late.

I see ZERO reason not to take a wait and see approach with ANY non limited pinball.

wait a sec... why even have your asterisk for *3ish months? If you want to take a stand against pre-pay then you should include Stern in that also.

For me, I am currently happy to support US based companies with limited runs as I believe that is the only way they will get off the ground. That is my choice.

Why are you deciding to drawn the line at 3ish months from payment to delivery?

anything new in the past 12 pages or just the same shit?
can I get some updated cliff notes?

I listened to the Roger one (first half so far) and I fear that he is as he said, being naive. I really hope he does some more due diligence as he jumps in on DP project as at this point he just sounded like damage control and like he has not done all his research yet, but is repeating what was told from one side.

As mentioned the internet goes by 100x the speed of real life, but he has stepped into a sticky situation and the immediacy of the interview just comes off as attempted damage control with no real substance to me.

In this specific title, what is the benefit of being in/preordering? I honestly have not kept up and I may have missed it.

Is the preored risk for a custom rug and special trim?

I was still under the impression this is an unlimited game and anyone can buy after they are out?

is this correct?

Curious, what do preowners have as proof of any payments that have been made to Phil? If 2/3 of DP is locked out of accounts, how do they have a clue as to whom has paid what, who has been refunded, who has repaid after being refunded, etc...?

From the outside looking in, it all seems like such a goat rodeo that anyone could claim all sorts of wild things and DP would be hard pressed to determine anything other. At the same time, how can you trust that your money is safe in any way with DP currnetly? What is your proof of payment and how secure is it?

For all the questions and concern about other manufacturers, missed deadlines, etc..., this is the first time that I have seen and example where the books a really such a mess that your money may not be secure or even properly accounted for.

For anyone still in on this, I suggest keeping multiple copies of all payments or reciepts or I am guessing just emails of what/who has your money.

Sorry, I am just asking a question and not being a hypocrite at all. I was just curious what is the actual status of those that hae put in money and advising that you keep all evidence of payments. I am sure things will get figured out in some form but with the current state of messy affairs it is probably good to have your own personal reciepts in order.

I am glad you have finally choosen to fight for a game you love and manifacturer you believe in. I also hope you get the game as you expect and it surpasses your wildest dreams. Life is way too short and you might as well fight for something you enjoy!

I have no idea with Jpop, but with SkitB it seems all have gotten refunds and all emails I have gotten about my payments and where I stand have been very organized with a single owner in charge of it all. I know exactly where my $$ are and have always had confidence that the money is being spent on development of the game.

Unfortunatley in this situation it sounds to be very complicated with mutiple owners, accounts, payment transfers, money used to order BOP2.0 stuff, etc...

Maybe other companies are doing the same thing and we just don't know about it?

That would be great but I do not see it happening unfortunately. More realistic wish is that things continue to go well for Charlie/Spooky and then others can have him build games and ramp up production capabilities to meet a higher demand.