+ 1 to the kahula chip in. And maybe get a price from Goodmans Agent!?

I want the game to be made!

I can't help but think.. Phil you are a master at marketing.....good & bad... I think if what you have posted is true in regards to the PF art but I don't think it can't be sorted out. What is going to prevent the game from being made is the deposits that have been returned and the scaremongering which is stopping people from redirecting payment.

When Phil returns deposits from DP USA. Does that not exclude him from prosecution, as DP USA has taken no money. Obviously Phil also wants to do right by the people he sold to and outline the problems DP had before he left. That was 1month ago. What has been going on since then? Who is the PR with UNIVERSAL now?

Barry,Japp & team need to reply, but I understand the circumstances as to why Japp has not.

Price increase and price for the rug!! Everyone loves FREE STUFF!

OK so here is my take on it
1.) Barry may have taken money from DP USA to fund trips to promote TBL and finish off BOP2.0
2.) Universal has not agreed the Playfield art work- on the flyer I have seen DP did state in a big black box "artwork subject to change.
3.) Barry has not responded to Phil asking to be disbanded from DP.
4.) phil has done this for two resons because he is worried that pre-order customers won't get a game because UNIVERSAL will pull licence & he will face legal action if this happens

Is this the jist of it?

On pinball news, JJP did a presentation on Hobbit. In the presentation they showed a multiball sequence which Peter Jackson himself said no to. They still showed it as it was their vision and what they wanted to put in the game. It was refused and so abandoned. Is that illegal showing their vision? If it is not in The final product or licence is worked out before then is it still illegal.

UNIVERSAL may not know of the pin, but was it DP intention to make a prototype and show UNI the "vision" and then go make changes after that. Granted they should not have taken it to a show or organised events to show their vision before complete approval.

+1 to that!
If people bail at the rumour or the slightest hiccup then more fool them. DP should recognise it's loyal pre-orderers!

People are bailing after hearing only one side, I am sorry of what Phil describes, but I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion, scaremongering, people jumping on the bandwagon crying SCAM!

I've seen this in WOZ, PREADATOR & now TBL.
I'm pretty confident that most of what DP has put in the game will get approval. Change the artwork a little and the code to what UNIVERSAL is happy with and as with an earlier post the content we want will be put in through "updates" not done by DP obviously

Listened to #127.
I'm pretty happy right now. Of course I'm still in and my number should be moving on up nicely as well

Roger stated in the interview that he had spoken to UNIVERSAL directly and they have no intention of pulling the licence. Also that they KNEW about the Expo and NYC party.

This statement discredits Phils "UNI didn't know" Sure there are some things that need approval..Roger also says that he has seen paper trails on things that have been signed off by UNIVERSAL. Of course that is significant and FULL of substance to me.

Not really sure how you can say this and defend Skit B! And I am still in on both!

Just paid another $1500 to DP.

Don't care if they are using my money to fund the project TBL project.

I'm sure when Phil gets out/back from his treatment that he will go about refunding all those who want out.

TBL is a popular theme in US. Maybe most of the pre-orders were US and so DP USA has most of the $$, even deposits from Europe went to DP USA. So looks like they have no choice but to wait for Phil. Why has phil locked the account? because he thinks Barry will steal the rest...no.....because he cares about his customers and wants to refund them....maybe..... Or maybe he is planning to run with the money to get what he is owed! Everyone is jumping to conclusions and making accusations.

+1

I emailed Jaap
Things are going in the right direction. Waiting to hear back on a few things which takes a few weeks.

Guess he means the playfield artwork approval but I don't know.

News letter will come when there's more to report.

Heard from a reliable source that New Shit news letter should be out this Friday at some point.

Yes It was me that first Said a Newsletterwoukd be out today. It was from a reliable source, close to the company. The day is not over yet, but I too will be disappointed if one doesn't come out today.

BOOM!

Thanks for the update Barry, Jaap and Team!

Nice looking Playfied.

I am proud to say I'm an Achiever!

Not everything is black and white.
Maybe they had to file claim with paypal, paypal had to get Phils side of the story, maybe it had to go to some financial review and so on, these things take time.

I know it's not over yet, but when DP start manufacture & shipping in Q2 will this not be the shortest amount of time before a "pre-order" pin has been made? About 1yr from asking for deposit to get your game!?

JJP certainly had my$2000 deposit for years. And $6000 for the last 6 months.

Pre-ordering is not for the faint hearted, but I've got to say that in my option some only get in on pre orders for the possible return it will have in the future or just to say 'yeah I'm in on that' but when it comes to putting down a substantial amount of deposit or settle the amount people bail.

Some say it's due to delays, some say it's bad business, I say it's those who are time wasters!

+1
It looks like TBL will be some serious competition to Stern and JJP with the build quality, game play and toy innovation.

I will be a DP customer second time round.

You certainly have changed your tune!!
Yes Phil was an owner but his conduct was totally unacceptable. Page after page you repeated the same thing, "not a way to run a company, I want a refund" sounded like a broken record. Nothing constructive, just negative towards DP.

Did you pay your Jan payment??...I did and those that believe in DP did, did those that got a refund from Phil put back in straight away? some did others didn't.

And you want back in in the same place!
Astounding!

Those who's money was not refunded but did not put money in on the Dec/Jan deadline could have contributed to the colaspe of DP.

Pre-ordering is a risk, people who got a refund and did not put back in should not be allowed to rejoin in their spot with the "perks" because they didn't take the risk.

People who slammed DP with threats of law suits and made comments about a "poorly managed" company WITHOUT knowing all the facts from both sides. Should also be put back, or those that stuck with DP without question should be put forward. Which ever.

I'm not saying this so I get my TBL quicker, it's the principle of the matter to me. I wait until I have the facts to make an informed decision

I know DP did not communicate publicly like Phils outcry, but if you emailed Barry he would reply to individuals. I think that this was the more professional, communicating when FACTS are availabile.

OK we get it, but clearly We don't care!! We believers in DP continue to back DP. Obviously were all clueless to how a business should be run because nothing like this has ever happend before in business...especially your business!

Are you Donald Trump or Lord Alan Sugar?

So now DP are Nigerian scammers who want to empty your bank account. People on here are paranoid!

I'm more than confident in DP.
They have had their ups and downs, but now people who wanted refunds have got them and things are back on track. I'm paying my final installment when I get paid end of the month.
That's how confident I am.