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DP USA Refund - Still Want the Game

By JDinNOVA

9 years ago


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#2105 9 years ago
Quoted from DreamTR:

That's the old guard being naive. The Stern games stand up to the Bally/Williams stuff now for sure. It took some time but the games are great now. There's only so much of the same 20+ years of Bally/Williams pinballs I can take. Yes, they stand up to the test of time, (most Data East stuff does not), but the Stern stuff in the last 5-6 years plays just as well if not better. People just won't give the stuff a chance but I can assure you those people aren't sitting there playing their games 10x a day still either.

I would agree that they play well, but build quality is not as good compared to the classic Bally/Williams era games IMO.. I mean they aren't horrible but still not up to those glory years.

#2108 9 years ago
Quoted from Cenobyte:

I'm convinced that a lot of people still think that. And whether it's true or not, choosing Stern for this would certainly cost TBL clients.

If Stern were in charge of assembling TBL I would still buy it, if it is anything like the proto units that have been shown off.

#2112 9 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

What I want to know is where the hell did "jack wagon" come from? Is it a retro insult lifted from Deadwood, or a substitute curse for the prudish? Either way, it sounds ridiculous.
In any event, the preferred nomenclature in a TBL thread is "human paraquat."

Here you go...

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jack+wagon

#2122 9 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

Yeah, except no one can ever define build quality. For working right out of the box, pretty much all operators say that Stern games are much better day one than Bally / Williams were.

Yes but what about as time passes. That is where the build quality really starts to show itself. Also just from the product you get from day one, you can see that a lot of corners have been cut to save on money... For example, a single halogen light in the back box.. What ever happened to the idea of a light show in the back back.... With the newer games that have actual LCD screens in the back box, i.e. WOZ I can see only having a single bulb, and you can do the light show with the screen, but for all the Stern stuff, just a money saver..

#2129 9 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

*shrug*. My single bulb backboxes burn out way less often than bulbs in my lots-of-bulb boxes.
Oh, and my RFM has a single bulb.

Yeah and RFM also only has half a playfield... Bulbs can be replaced, unfortunately the creativity that was included in the older back boxes can not with a single bulb...

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