I received a refund as well. No idea why.
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Quoted from frolic:I think this paints a picture that Phil was more than just "the marketing guy". I wonder if dp usa exists anymore.
slow down tiger
Quoted from burningman:What makes you think that your money is any less safe than it was yesterday?
Companies...not just pinball companies use their assets to fund projects. This is no different.
All that has really happened is someone decided to send deposits back that were not requested.
That's not all that happened pal!
Quoted from burningman:well...as the dude says....thats like his opinion man...
not his opinion, it says so in the vip letter today
Quoted from leisure:Yeah, uh..... abort, abort time?
you bet your ass!
I got a refund - lucky
but I would strongly jump on calling your credit card provider or paypal (although i have no idea what their policy is).
This sucks.
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Dear VIPs,
Although we would rather be focussing fully on our extremely fun VIP party in NYC - we want to take a moment and address some of the confusion that may have been caused by the refunds on some of your orders.
Although Phil announced to leave the company, he officially still is one of the three share holders of Dutch Pinball USA Inc. and in charge of the Dutch Pinball USA Inc. PayPal and bank account. The company building the game is Dutch Pinball BV and owned by Jaap and Barry.
We did everything in our power to settle issues in a normal way with Phil, but unfortunately he decided to take matters in his own hands and is doing whatever he's doing for reasons we don't know. We really regret your involvement in this situation and we hope we can settle this as soon as possible so we can focus on fun things again.
Our goal is to make awesome games. This will not be changed or damaged by an individual who just wants to discredit our success and/or our project(s).
Phil started some PayPal USA Inc. refunds without us knowing. Please don't worry, your order is still there and you will not lose your place in line.
As soon as your money is refunded, please go to your status page and 'retry' the payment(s). If you pay again like this, the payments will be processed to a new PayPal account and you're all done and your order is secured. If for some reason you can't retry, or if it doesn't work, please let us know. We might need a couple of days to fix this since it's weekend and some of us are in New York.
If your money is not (yet) refunded, you can always dispute this on your PayPal account to force a refund
Nothing else will change and all terms and conditions will remain the same for delivering your game and future games.
We are Dutch Pinball and are still on track to create this and many more awesome games!
Thanks for being a VIP and we hope to meet you again soon.
If you have any further questions, or concerns, please contact us at [email protected]. It might take some time to process all emails.
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Quoted from vid1900:Everyone keeps saying "dissolve the corporation....run the corporation....1/3 of the corporation" but why are there no incorporation documents registered?
you are correct. Based in Park Ridge, Illinois but not registered as a legal entity in the state of Illinois
Quoted from swf127:Someone claimed that Dutch Pinball USA is a d/b/a and not a corp. I don't know it that's true but it would certainly make more sense than "I incorporated and then used my personal social security number on all the accounts" theory.
On the website it says the official name of the company is:
Dutch Pinball USA Inc.
Park Ridge, IL
They are not registered with the secretary of state in Illinois
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Quoted from jazzmaster:I wish DP would issue refunds so that all of you guys would shut the fuck up!
that's the entire point! They want to get their requested and promised refund.
It's been 7 weeks!
Quoted from Plungemaster:You did. And still you dont no shit about dp financial status.
I know enough that people have been waiting 7 weeks for a refund without funds being returned.
That's enough for me.
TAKE OFF THE BLINDERS!
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Quoted from Coyote:I'm curious - to those that saw the 'pre-approved' field - has anything changed?
quick look but gun and pot leaf are removed
Quoted from Skins:So name calling is justified so long as you deem the persons reasoning bad? So what derogatory name shall we call you? In all seriousness, your abrasive quips and tough guy posting makes most of your valid points get negated. Lighten up man.
The poster you are referring to should be ignored.
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