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DP USA Refund - Still Want the Game


By JDinNOVA

4 years ago



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#637 4 years ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

I believe Barry's side of the story is coming out tonight
Stay tuned

Based on all the emails Phil has posted not sure if his "side" matters anymore Seems like a mess overall. GAme development is tough enough, but behind the scenes drama seems like a big wall to get through. Big bummer a cool theme and game is having these issues

#667 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Tell me again why I should pre-order a pinball machine?

Because not having a clue if you'll get your money or machine is a fun gamble? Who wouldn't love that stress? lol /sarcasm

#672 4 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

That's what you do when you are getting out of business, if you can't sell it or merge it with another company, you liquidate the assets. He tried to sell/merge DP USA, but couldn't. So he's liquidating. Exactly as he should.

Agreed. Sounds like some of these guys can clearly make a cool pinball, but lack business sense on such a massive level this pin may never come out. People tend to forget you can't just simply design the pin and thats it. Their is funding, support, marketing, sales etc.

#830 4 years ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

I dunno
If we look at bop 2.0 it is late but it's has full endorsement and licensing rather than a rogue skill release. Seems like they're crossing T and dotting the i's

BoP is still nowhere close to finished according to that other thread though. It's not just late, it looks like it was ignored fully for a good while there

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#1486 4 years ago
Quoted from benheck:

Here's a theory:
Assuming no TBL get built in 2014 / no parts or labor, wouldn't the money collected this year be completely taxable as there's no losses incurred yet against it?
As an example, let's say 1 million collected to build something a company will make a 20% margin on. That's 800k in parts, 200k profit. A company (or employees taking the profit as salary) would pay tax on the 200k. At 30%, say 60k tax liability.
But without operating expenses perhaps they would be facing taxes on total revenue? So 300k taxes instead of 60k? That's a pretty big hit!
Please chime in as I am no tax expert, but I've always heard it's a bad idea to do Kickstarters near end of year for this reason.

There is an in depth post on this lost on all the pages but you can withhold profit claims on it till a real product is made.

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