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Quoted from vid1900:
Although it might be fun to think of Kahlua as being a tiny Mexican company, they are actually owned by the monster Pernod Ricard company that controls the entire world of spirits. Absolute, Beefeater, Chivas Regal, Jameson, Seagrams.....it's all owned by the French.
This! And do not Piss the Frenchs. Ever!
... we piss on your rug!
Very undude, I know
Quoted from toyotaboy:
While we've only heard one side to this story, the fact that barry and Jaap aren't coming on here to defend themselves implies guilt does it not? If these were lies, wouldn't they want to defend themselves?
I would not conclude that. They are probably consulting legal advice before making any statement. That's what I would do anyway (for both sides).
Quoted from foxtj24:
Makes me feel a little better, but they have not answered Phil's allegations yet. You think after everything said, they would have defended themselves against Phil's claims if they were not true.
Again - I assume they got legal advice not to comment on this.
Not trying to defend DP at all costs (because from what I read Phil has good reasons to be pissed off) but their answer makes sense to me. But I have no horse in that race so you are entitled to be less lenient.
Quoted from soren:
On top of not letting him loose, they developed an unhealthy communication and relation with him. Ignoring inquiries and setting up an alternative Paypal-account under Phils name (phil@ e-mail they took control over). This is bad! Who wouldn't scream it out loud all over the place if somebody was doing business impersonating them.
I forgot about that one!
I would have become berserk had they done that to me.
Quoted from Hwawonyu:
No status level. Participatory! I want to talk to folks involved.
Would you consider me worthy for this thread, then? Here is the context:
- I am a TBL fan
- I was on the original "virtual TBL" wish list.
- I did not join the pre-order list as
i) I was - still is - overcommitted elsewhere
ii) I was not so convinced by the information given by DP. If you remember the initial website, the only clear information provided at that time was the prepayment plan...
iii) I am unconvincing about the lower PF lastability.
- I almost jumped in after the PAPA video. Yeah, it was that good... (so good I would argue that this video looks like a "commercial" - not built like other PAPA video I saw)
- I chickened out after the Refund / Phil / DP-US affair. Rather fortunate for my bank account as I would not have been capable of raising enough money in time.
- I might buy the game at a later stage. Probably not NIB.
So... Am I legit?
Quoted from limelime20:
I'm pretty sure Phil took out way too much money for his own salary, expenses, etc..
and DP is shell-shocked by it., they didn't know before, but after the %$&t hit the fan, they thought, "oh god no"...and reality set in..and then when they see the balance in the DP USA account..(at some point)..it's OMG?
So, now, they are in the "he's stollen 100,000 of dollar's phase,. and what can we do about it phase?
Most insulting statement in that thread so far.
Quoted from pinballslave:
The French also have their fair share of pin-heads... for some reason the French seem to gravitate towards Gottliebs...
Excellent joke! Er... no.
Or this is an alternative France. Stargate is considered a good game in France, but the other GTB...
(well, Gottlieb made great EMs).
As in any other country, you have the WMS/Bally fans vs recent Sterns fans.
Quoted from ozno:
I requested a refund and planned to refuse it once they offered it. It was a test and completely warranted in my view, although would have been better to do nothing like you said. But understand that DP resents people for requesting a refund. They are holding a grudge. I caught them before my refund wen through and told them to forget the refund and they told me to forget TBL. That's right, no soup for you!! They had my money all year and now I'm not good enough. It's kind of funny in a way. NO SOUP FOR YOU. BACK OF THE LINE INFIDEL. I think the machine is going to be awesome. I really do. How else do you justify the utter arrogance that DP exhibits at every turn?
The only excuse for DP would be if you add insulting comments when asking for a refund.
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