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OP, time to change the name of the thread from:
"DP USA Refund - Still Want the Game"
to
"DP USA Refund - Still Want the Game....but thank god I got my money out."
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Anyone pre ordering is effectively an investor in the company. But at the end, instead of equity in the company, you end up with a pinball machine.
Unlike an investor though, you have no say in how the company is run, and you have no chance to make a return on the investment. Yet the risk is the same (if not more?)
It's just like a kick-starter.
Between this and MMr, the whole preorder thing is all but finished. Expectations become too high (as they should be) and pre-order customers get nervous about what the final product will be.
For all the complaints about Stern, no one compares in being able to deliver on what they promise at this point.
2 weeks later
The big lesson....Pre Orders Suck. If this were a normal company funded by owners investment, all this stuff could be/would be happening behind the scenes and no one would know or care.
Different story when you've got 1000's of dollars invested in the company.
My guess is there is no way DP could fulfil all the requested refunds without obtaining external funding. So they are trying to buy time. Hopefully that's what the new accountant guy is working on.
It's ironic that because so many people want refunds now (I'm guessing it's a lot...I could be wrong) the issuing of refunds would most likely cause the exact scenario that people are concerned about...ie financial collapse. Classic Catch 22.
Short of an external investor coming on board, it's likely in the best interest of all pre-orderers to sit tight and hope this thing gets made.
Not taking sides either way..no question it's a great game. But those are the 2 options as I see it.
I really think DP have to address it soon or the panic will just spread. Maybe Rick or Gary might like to stump up some cash as silent partners? 
Quoted from pinballslave:My wife's theory on all this is that DP are actually a faction of the Islamic State and are using money from pre-orders to fund terrorist attacks... I told her that I didn't think that was the case, but I'd put it out on Pinside anyway
As good as any other theory.
Quoted from robfg67:In my opinion, all customers who gave a deposit must do whatever they can to get as much of that money back ASAP. Forget about holding out hope that you will ever get the machine...that is called blind faith and there is enough smoke here to warrant action.
Quoted from pinballslave:You've been a member of Pinside for 2 weeks, made 7 posts and are making statements that are trying to evoke more panic in people who are already spooked by what's happening at DP... For what do we owe the pleasure of your input?
Ah guys....he's been a member for over a year, not 2 weeks. And the previous posts he's made are about legit technical questions.
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