Hang in there, this game unconfuses itself in more situations than I've ever seen, with the Munchkin gate slipping up so often. I would think even more situations will be compensated for in future releases.

I have, ahem, liberal tilts here at home, so when this happened yesterday, I just picked the front up so the ball would go in the hole.

Then I set it back down, but one leg wound up out of its Pin Footie! Argh!

Wouldn't setting the timer to like 2 seconds or 1 second be as good as disabling the feature?

Same. I enjoy the NPLH ball save game.
I really like the way the mood/music changes after you complete each stage. Really well done by KJ.

Right there with you. The mode is one of my favorites and is reminiscent of TABA on LOTR. The mood change is brilliant and dream like which is obviously intentional.

Any pictures showing the two different power supplies ?

That is exactly the problem I am having. I am going to look at my pin to see if anything is wrong, and perhaps try to recreate this with the glass off.

If nothing helps, I am opening a ticket with JJP. Keep me posted on your resolution of this problem and I will do the same.

+1

I also really enjoy the change of pace/mood. The pressure both TOTO and TNPLH put on you to potentially get that ball back is a great feeling not oft captured in a game. It gives me the same tension that shooting the snack bar to restart Multi-ball in CFTBL offers...I loved hitting that shot too.

<MapleSyrup said:
I'm having issues with ball searching. Anybody else??
When 3 balls are locked in the Munchinland ramp, sometimes the machine doesn't kick a ball out, goes in to search mode, but never tries releasing a ball from the ramp lock??!
I'm not sure what's causing this. Must be a software issue. I hope I'm describing it correctly.
I've had to restart several times as consecutive ball searches can't locate my ball.>

<<That is exactly the problem I am having. I am going to look at my pin to see if anything is wrong, and perhaps try to recreate this with the glass off.

If nothing helps, I am opening a ticket with JJP. Keep me posted on your resolution of this problem and I will do the same.>>

I had a very similar problem, had me stumped too, but then I found that it was directly related to the adjustment of the gap between the magnet coil and plate on the arm lock, once I got it adjusted correctly it's been perfect since. The reason I think that it didn't work in ball search was the pulse to the coil isn't as strong, so it doesn't have enough pull to make the arm rise.

I could be completely wrong on this, but it has worked for me, super easy adjustment so worth a try?

Here is a solution provided on the JJP Google group.
Add a small nylon cable guide under the existing screw. So far I haven't had the same issue again.
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Looks good to me, especially if it solves the issue. However, be prepared to have that labeled by purists as a "Hack of the week".

Star Trek uses those cable guides out of the box to stop balls from being trapped on the space where the wire rails meet the slingshot plastics (Prem/LE).

I had this EXACT same problem, and thought it was the opto's too, its not. see if anything is binding against the lock bar that the magnet lifts up. pull the huts off, check to make sure the coil wires arnt in the way. Then go into coil test mode, go down to the ramp lock and test it with no balls in there (remember you go into manual mode and close the coind door b4 you hit the start button to test)

Then test with 1 ball, then 2 balls, then 3 balls. still not working? look at the lock bar itself, did the lower limit plate underneath get bent down a little bit from use?

Once i pull the hut off, tweaked a few things and tested, it all worked fine for me after that.

Ah, you beat me 2 it. i posted on the JJP google group about this. I had the exact same problem, for me it had to do with the gap needing a little adjustment and i think the winkie hut was rubbing against the armiture. I cleared all that up and it works fine for me now.

The key is to go into to test mode and put three balls in the lock and fire away on the coil, once you can do that several times with no failures, you should be good to go.

Also, how did you do the adjustment? curious to see if there is anything else i need to consider if this happens to me again.

That works but what happens if the ball gets stuck behind the right door?

Mr. Syrup - there simply isn't enough space for the ball to get stuck now I am assuming so the ball probably drops back into the VUK and then waits for ball search again and the doors to reopen.
I am guessing..

On the right side the post is positioned better than on the left and it simply doesn't get stuck there. On the left they put the post a little too far to one side leaving enough space for the ball to get through. Though simiply putting a rubber on the left side post is enough to pretty much keep this from happening as well. I have some little 1/2" clear rubber stick on circles (feet) that are about a 1/4 inch high and I just stuck one of those in there. enough to keep the ball out but not block the door. Ther'es a few ways to deal with this and all of them pretty much work. Just hack at it!!!

Like the ones for hanging pictures?

The ball will not get stuck behind the door on either side. If it does get behind the doors (a quick hit after eject) there could be a timing problem and the ball could still get stuck back there but a ball search will clear it. (improved on 2.0)

If your doors are not opening all the way during normal play then it is likely that the set screws that hold the door to the shaft are loose. I believe that there are 2 of them.

Hi MapleSyrup,

I had the same problem and I finally decided to fix it a couple of weeks ago. You'll need to take off that mini playfield. There is a metal plate on the underside below those two doors, once you get the mini playfield upside-down you'll be able to see how it operates. This plate can (it seems) become misaligned. All I had to do is push it back down (you may have to use a nut driver because it is not easy to get your fingers on it) until the doors didn't open with my "gentle force" pressing on them. I didn't see any loose screws or other issues, that plate was just tilted enough to allow that right door to open pretty easily with light pressure. After adjusting the plate it has been fine.

The underside of this mini playfield is very complicated, I appreciate it so much more after examining it! A lot of stuff crammed into a very small area.

Let us know how your experience goes. Oh, I did have to cut one wire pair and put a new molex connector in, as you may have read from others who have removed the upper playfield. Seems some of the early machines don't have a connector to make removing the playfield easier.

-Brannon

Had a similar problem, the grub screw that connects the door to the motor came loose. Just tightened it up, no problem since. That you will need to remove the mini field to complete the adjustment is tough part.

thanks for posting the pic, makes it so much easier to understand.

I think for tournament mode, it should be turned off. Many players don't even bother trying to complete the sequence. They just hit the ball around knowing that they can still score points.

A more important tournament setting IMO is turning off ECMB locks so players can't force an unexpected multi-ball.

Not to mention the advantage to the player who locks balls first getting to plunge for the bonus X lanes.

I'm going to have to look at mine, I'll bet I have the spring issue because mine opens about half the time and the other half it only opens like 1/2 way then if the ball hits it it will snap open the rest of the way. It's weird though sometimes it will open all the way no problem and in test it works fine. I thought it was normal for it to open part way as you have to bank the doors to get in I thought it was just part of the gameplay! Doh! Time to get in there. It looks like from the pic though that you don't have to remove the mini playfield to check that spring? I hope not was hoping to not have to go there!

Tom

I wonder if a little dab of solder on the plate to stop the spring from moving to the inside is the fix here??

Any thoughts on that??

That sounds like it might do the trick but the tab looks pretty shiny like it might be tough to get the solder to stick. But if you can get it to flow through the hole a little it would probably be enough to work. I was thinking about maybe just positioning it to the other side and putting a dab of clear silicone on that tab. Might be enough to keep it in place and it would flex a bit as well. Let it sit overnight to dry.... Easily removed if needed too. I'll get to mine soon and report back.

Tom

I'm having a problem with the file... it downloads but when I go to unzip it it says its not a complete file? and cant unzip it any Ideas?? thanks

It should be zipped. and then you copy it to your stick and then you extract the files in your stick. So you will be left with 2 files.

Sounds like the download is getting interrupted, having any intermittent internet issues?

I dont think so but it dose down load fast just a couple sec. I tried a couple times . maybe something to do with my comp. at work. I retry when I get home.

Added to this 2.0 post:

Hey guys - I didn't notice this 1.25 (doesn't mean it didn't happen) - but now that I have 2.0 installed, I notice that every trip around munchkin land counts as two. Is that correct? I know there are two switches, but I thought both had to be activated to decrement one - in other words - one time around the house should count as one, but mine are counting as two. Is this normal? By design, a 2.0 anomaly? Thanks!

Any thoughts?

Hardware issue on your machine, near as I can tell. Counts correctly on the one near here, and also in Troz's video in another thread.

Thanks for the suggestion. Actually it was software. Rebooted the game and it's working as it should - yes, I had tried that before but I might have not waited long enough to restart it.

One more probably game play question - when you go to the castle and get the rescue letters and then knock down the door, the screen shows "Lock 1" - then "lock 2" the next time, "Lock 3" the third time and then finally you get the multiball. What do the lock 1,2,3, mean? Where/when would the ball be locked after that? I am asking because as far as I can tell - the ball doesn't lock at all and the lock indicator doesn't illuminate near the ramp either.

Spelling RESCUE qualifies a ball lock at the loop (green arrow) or multiball start at the door (yellow arrow). If Dorothy hasn't been captured, you only get the green light... you can "pre-lock" balls but not start MB til the monkey gets Dorothy. If you lock a ball by shooting the loop, you have to re-spell RESCUE to qualify the locks/multiball start again. Once you lock the maximum number of balls, you can only start multiball.

Perfect - thanks!

I'm not complaining... I have such a hard time on the castle playfield. Just hitting the targets is a bear, and it drives me crazy when I finally light both the door (yellow) and the search lane (green) and I accidentally hit the lane instead of the door. Sure, rescue will have another ball, but I now have at least 2 - 3 trips I need to make back to the castle playfield. Yes, it is because I suck at pinball. But man, as the ball is coming down the wireform it is just depressing.

Same here, would get locks when I wanted MB start. You have to be careful when you get close to completing Rescue and trap/shoot the ball so you don't make the loop by mistake. Moving the post in to throttle the drain a bit helps as well.

Did you have to remove the playfield to move the post? i am considering doing this too.

removing the playfield is not that bad, just takes time. Personally I think it is worth going through and separating the connections out of the harness in case you need to remove it in the future. This took the most time.