Quoted from woz:

Where can you find a "modern kid-focused arcade" these days?

Quoted from trunchbull:

The three games he did after TZ at B/W are really good, and I don't think he was picking his own themes at Stern, was he? Monopoly is fun, though. I wish RCT had had a better understanding of why people PLAY the video game, and had incorporated more of the silliness that makes it fun. Instead, it was just a weird, ugly hodgepodge code with a nifty layout and a generic amusement park theme.

Quoted from MikeS:

I think Pat had a great run with Earthshaker, Whirlwind, Funhouse, TAF and TZ but after that I think it went down hill. NGG (Caddyshack) was good but Roadshow was pretty poor. I like Safecracker a lot but I don't think that's a theme people feel too passionate about. I guess I just expected better since it's been nearly 20 years since he's gotten the chance to do an original theme without a shoestring budget. It just seems surprising that "Magical cellphone in a Futuristic City" is the theme he's been dying to make all these years'...

Quoted from libtech:

Wonder if there will be a sub 7k regular edition? Or if it will just be a LE and collectors edition copying stern.

Quoted from hardware:

The pin is really called Dialed In.

Quoted from Rarehero:

The "LE" is the regular edition. 6999 units isn't an LE. 6999 units would be an extremely high selling regular run for any modern pinball company.

Quoted from Pimp77:

I figured I'd sleep on the reveal and give it a bit to settle in before saying anything. Well, I love WOZ and TH but this is a pretty big fail for JJP in many ways. That's a shame because I have no doubt that the layout shoots great. It really looks like a fun shooting game. You KNOW the code will be awesome. The player camera and internet capability are great (I think they are going down the path of head to head games over the internet). Cool little things like having the game automatically set at 6.5 deg with levelers all the in are nice. Game features sound cool. The theme underneath is even maybe passable if this was priced at $7500 max. But $9k?? GTFO. Then there is a laughable version at $12.5k!!! BWAAAAAHAHAHAHA! That, my friends, will be the rarest machine in existence! Who will buy that? Who is buying the $9k one? The name of the game is horrendous. Dialed In! WTF is that? We have no idea. Possibly the worst name of a game in the modern era. Whoever suggest the Quantum City name is right. Much better name and it leads you to believe you'll be traveling around the city for your missions in the game. The cell phone gimmick is also terrible. Who wants to play pinball using their phone??? I can't believe someone at JJP didn't flag this whole concept as not a good idea. Keith?? Ted?? Anyone? I guess it's what these kids are into these days...LOL! Ridiculous. Then we get to the toys. There is nothing really awesome. At least there is physical ball locks in that building thing, but Mick on a stick? Really??? C'mon Jack, why recycle a turd like that? It should have been like Drac in MB at least where you are actually hitting the toy instead of a damn target underneath!! Then it would be much better.
At $9k a machine must blow my socks off in almost every aspect for me to buy. Alien comes closest with these new releases, but fails in art and I'm not sold on the platform itself and the layout/gameplay yet.
Jack better accelerate the JJP4 schedule because this one will not sell well.

Quoted from iceman44:

Here's the thing, I'm a big proponent of people being stupid with their own $$$, I do it all the time.
But this whole story line, from both Stern and JJP is getting to be a f ing JOKE. It's almost like they are in collusion with one another on pricing.
Jack standing up there and the way they did that presentation was pure arrogance with the new Hobbit LE version to the smug assertion that he assumes all 6,999 will be sold quickly.
It's one thing when a sales guy acts like a sales guy but I think in the race to the sleazy bottom, Jack just jumped right over Stern, not that either really matters.
$12.5 k to "get it by xmas". Really? F ing Really? Have everybody lost their minds? Really?
"It's game over man, game over"

Quoted from brucipher:

Right...and why they decided to call this an LE is stupid. Just call it the standard and be done with it.

Quoted from Toasterdog:

Some interesting features
Features of the Game:
Original concept game design by Pat Lawlor
Original art design by John Youssi
Special plaque signed by Pat Lawlor, John Youssi, and Jersey Jack
The first-ever pinball machine to feature Bluetooth connectivity, a camera, and additional player capabilities through a smart phone
Special attract mode animation for Limited Edition
3-D interactive projected image
Illuminated cityscape back panel
Innovative swiveling LCD mount
3 flying drones
Animated robot
Moving animated target
Upper playfield ball play
Hidden trap door
Low-profile bottom arch with removable instruction card reader brackets
Multiple shot subway system
Plunger skill shot feature
Multiple ball game play
3 ball lock multi-ball play
5 magnet assemblies that enhance ball movement and game play
Owner adjustable outlane posts
Numbered (pick your favorite number, subject to availability)
Premium Clear Coated Playfield
Invisiglass
Shaker Motor
Standard size cabinet.
27" HD LCD featuring full color animation and visual integration of game features
RGB-LED Playfield lightning
5 speaker 2.1 stereo surround sound
Stereo headphone jack
More Details to follow
**Features are Subject to Change**

Quoted from jwilson:

Here's another one for you - Demolition Man.
Should be a good theme, but the terrible art and gruel-thin plot really turns people off. However, the game is gangbusters, easily one of my favourites.
But it's not an A-List game, no matter how much fun it is, because *the theme ruins it*. Dialed In could be the most amazing game ever but that title and the confusing theme are going to sink it.
Change it now while you still have time.

Quoted from OldSchoolBlood:

People take chances on games like Roadshow, Demolition Man, Flintstones etc. With bad themes because of low price points. "Dialed In" may be fun, but for these new extremely high retail prices EVERYTHING must be near perfect to justify price INCLUDING theme. I just can't imagine this selling much at that price.

Quoted from RobT:

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Agreed.
Game will probably be a lot of fun to shoot, as most Lawlor pins are. But a bad theme with super annoying sounds will prevent it from ever being anywhere close to worth $9k. And the $12.5k price for the collectors edition is just downright insane.
Holy shit, the value of my McCune restored MB just went through the roof!

Quoted from PinJump:

Played it again. Damn, it's fun. Really enjoy flipping this game. So conflicted because of the theme.

Quoted from JoeJet:

Definitely a Lawlor game, reminds me of Road Show.. another game with poor theme that was fun.

Quoted from Rarehero:

I adore Road Show. I'd never spend $9k on Road Show.
I'd buy this game at an arcade auction for $1800 like Road Show lol ...but if operators don't buy it, we won't ever see a "cheap" Dialed In down the road.

Quoted from beatmaster:

exactly, 6999 is not very limited.

Quoted from SilverBallz:

When is jack going to come on here and tell everyone about changes coming based on feedback?

Quoted from Pinbutt2000:

Lol...
Damn, it's fun....
Not sure if I like it because of name???
You people are funny.
If it was called anything but Dialed in you guys would not be saying it has a Cell Phone theme. The cell phone is the interface, the power base, it's like the Phone Booth in Bill and Ted's Excelent Adventure.
You are all getting too hung up on the name. It really does not have a cell phone theme... It is Named Dialed In... Which has 2 meanings. You Dial in to headquarters sure... But you are also dialed in... As in, in the zone.
The theme is disaster and you are the hero. The Phone is merely a gadget that every one of you has and understands.
You guys are caught up on the surface. It's damn funny.
I am not into Magic, But I like TOM...
Not a huge Star Trek fan, but own an STTNG and love it.
Demolition man is a great game, but could not care less about the movie.
The one game quote I heard was "Acid rain... Trippy" <- love it

Quoted from SilverBallz:

When is jack going to come on here and tell everyone about changes coming based on feedback?

Quoted from Rarehero:

I doubt that's going to happen. I feel like Jack and Pat are all in on this thing....true believers. A finished product has been revealed.

Quoted from cait001:

Movie theatres, Dave & Busters, Chuckie Cheeses, amusement parks, other kids play places.
But that was just speculation, I have no idea if this will do well anywhere.</blockquote

LOL, wait! You think that Pinside is where they should come to get marketing information? Too funny!
I don't think they design games based on a pinball forums idea of what is cool. They are NOT the market Pinball manufactures are after. They are looking to the Dave and Busters, Main Event type of buyers. If they think it is cool then it will be made. And to be honest those big retail chains couldn't care less about the theme as long as it keeps people entertained for short periods of time and most of those people don't play pinball on a regular basis. Look at how many pinsiders hate the WOZ but yet it is one of the top earners on routes. Why? It's flashy and is something different from the same old BS we have had for years that almost killed the whole market.</blockquote/

If the concept was to target D&B, etc. going for the younger market, then it's a fail. I have kids. They don't play pinball and they've been exposed to pinball since they were in diapers. Kids and 20 somethings go for shooters and redemption games. I have a friend who manages a D&B. Their top earners are redemption games, then redemption games, then redemption games....the pins only get played when they have some corporate event and a Boomer plays them. Operators don't like pins, either. Way more difficult to keep fully functioning than redemptions and videos. Just look at some recent threads... how many arcade/pin locations are or have closed recently? Pins don't have the quick fix, immediate gratification that Millenials crave.

In short, any manufacturer that isn't putting serious marketing focus on selling to the home market is missing the boat.

Quoted from Rarehero:

I adore Road Show. I'd never spend $9k on Road Show.
I'd buy this game at an arcade auction for $1800 like Road Show lol ...but if operators don't buy it, we won't ever see a "cheap" Dialed In down the road.

Quoted from robotron:

what a cash grab. 12,500 to get it by christmas and it will also be signed. really got me me pissed off last night. especially after jack was bragging about the company being financially secure. to ask that kind of money is insulting. dont buy these special editions that are nothing special at all. vote NO with your wallets!!!

Quoted from JoeJet:

I thought I read that Pats game was not primarily targeted at us, but more for the operator.

Quoted from Sticky:

Trying to sell us on a $12.5k pin because Lawlor's name is attached

Quoted from SimonBaird:

The difference this time around is that Jack can't afford to have the game 2 years away from shipping. I would not like to be Jack meeting with his investors when they see the feedback here and pre-sale orders. Speaking of investors, does it seem like both Stern and JJP went off the rails when new money came into both companies.
I have really tried not to get involved in the negative rants regarding pinball having jumped the shark and the crazy new price levels. In all honesty a figured $6-$7 was about the right price for NIB pins keeping inline with inflation from the 90's and overall drop in sales/production runs compared to those time. However going from wizard of Oz costing $6500 at launch to $9K for this game just seems more like profit taking. The sales numbers will determine which strategy works for the major manufactures I.e low run high margin, large run low margin.

Quoted from Sticky:

If I'm plopping down $12.5k cash for something I'm likely parking it in my garage.

Quoted from Goronic:

My Honda Accord was over 25K, and I park it outside. Guess what I have in my garage

Quoted from Sticky:

Well you use your space however you want to but my point is I'd rather use over $10k cash for a downpayment on something else. Not a damn $12.5k cell phone themed pinball machine.

Quoted from Sticky:

...but my point is I'd rather use over $10k cash for a downpayment on something else. Not a damn $12.5k cell phone themed pinball machine.

Quoted from TheLaw:

Sure sure...but we need to start wondering whom they are selling the game to. Your game section, if accurate, means you weren't even on their radar for buying a game anyway, so they don't care aboot you. Too rich for my blood too, and i have newer Sterns, but plenty of people here have a ton of cash. Why have to sell more machines than you have to? May be what they're thinking?

Quoted from EricHadley:

12.5k is insane

Quoted from Rarehero:

Operators won't buy a $9k pinball.
I seem to remember Jack contemplating or offering some kind of lease program for operators...that could get games on location.

Quoted from Sticky:

Honestly, I have no idea who is buying this.
It's a theme aimed at kids into cell phones, social media, selfies, etc., yet nobody that age can afford this.