+1

+1 on that
On the other hand... if anybody wants mine I'll Shazaam it out for only $25000.00

Nobody is jumping ship. There are just a few trolls trying to stir up trouble.

But I digress, because now undoubtedly JJP is all wrapped up in... yea, you heard it.. DRYWALLSCREW-GATE!

Enough of these threads.

There is drywall screws in the Beta Playfield!!!!!????????

And there are the 2 first trolls. Pinbill the old crank and as stated in another thread, snowdale who likes to purposely piss people off. Neither of whom add any meaningful value to this community.

No more threads like this. You are only feeding their idiocy.

DONT FEED THE TROLLS!

Yea, you are absolutely right. I couldn't resist. My bad...

Actually, snowdale provides a nice avatar too look at, so his trolling is slightly more meaningful

Maybe some people over extended themselves and need the money for other purposes? Why does it really matter?

Oh man. This is VERY worrisome!

I guess I'm one of the few who's actually happy with a post-september date: my home gameroom isn't finished yet! When I get back from my vacation next week, I will commence building it but won't be finished before september. Jack and the team: Take your time!

As for the drywall screws, people surprised by that have never had to deal with a presentation/expo deadline. If you had, you would know that *everything* is done to make something works in time for the show, even if it needs dirty hacks. Seeing that pic of the two screws made me chuckle, I'm definitely not worried about the skills of the WOZ team.

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Snowy how is that TFLE treating you

I sold it to a disgruntled WOZ dropout!!!
JK, I traded down + cash to fix my Tahoe. Tough hobby for the middle class!

I heard Jack paid you to post this.

I heard Gary paid you to say that

Just for looks woz is one of the best pins I have ever seen

I heard you guys are in middle school!

Boy I hope this machine lives up to the hype.

I agree. Although incomplete, the lighting looks great too. That's a big part of why I am so impatient to find out about the sound, the use of the LCD and the gameplay. This has the possibility and maybe the probability of being one of the best games ever.

out for summer break!

out for summer break!

hey, Snowdale, you sure like to reply to threads you would classify as Troll-ish. You're an enabler.

Stop being a troll and a cratchety old man he won't need to enable you.

The WOZ schedule keeps getting pushed back but I have never worried because they keep showing more progress. They are closer everytime you see more.

They do show progress. But this argument is open to a Wayne MM analogy.

"Troll-ish" I've never classified any thread.

IDE like send a warm apology to anybody in the WOZ threads that I've offended.
I'm a sarcastic F¥ck and sometimes you guys are real easy to piss off. No more trolling for me.

Happy flipping boys!
BAS

I think i made a mistake. It wasn't you i was thinking of when i wrote that. Sorry.

Gambit, just curious, what will your impression be if JJP does put test games on location in July as he said this week? Assume at least a 90% functioning test game that is well received if you are willing to answer this. Thanks, I am just trying to see your viewpoint in more depth. I take everyone's thoughts into consideration in forming my view of the situation and I respect your pinball knowledge about as much as anybody.

Its amazing how 1 or 2 loudmouths can form a group opinion.

Here are the facts:
-1000 have been sold
-OK, so if a few people have jumped ship...who cares? Their issues, not mine. Those games will easily be repurchased.
-It's a new startup company...I for one am absolutely patient because I understand what a huge undertaking this is. If we've waited this long, what's a few more months?
-I have absolute faith in the company due to the people involved.
-Have you played a BAD game Keith Johnson was involved in? I haven't.
-I pretty much love all of Chris Granner's sound packages and Greg Freres' art packages.
-Joe Balcer has designed some really fun games, despite the "Sega-ishness" of the build....so - imagine his design with higher quality.
-Nordmann's helping, and he rocks.

How could you be worried with this team!!?!? Relax, play some other games in the meantime....this game will be solid.

At the end of the day this will be ~2 year project...totally reasonable.

+1 agree with every word

We also need to remember that this isn't a one off project either, they are trying to build a viable company to build this one and other games in the future. I that light, 2 years to go from, "I'm going to start a pinball manufacturing company", to a game rolling off a new production line is close to miraculous!!

Pinball now has the..

Price Police
WOZ Police
ACDC Police

"WOZ due out in 2011 holiday season, Err mid 2012, Err holiday 2012, Err early 2013, Err time to go to another expo/show & fish for more preorders"

Whatever.

I am so over being excited for 2+ years. Enough is enough. When the game is in stock I will buy one & listen to all you JJP strokers that argue about nothing. Till then nearly all of us have money for a WOZ & no damn WOZ.

Another thing, to be clear, I want a WOZ & I want JJP to do VERY WELL. I am just very frustrated with the BS followed by more BS. Come clean already, its a 2013+ game!!!

If this thing doesnt ship soon I see lots of WOZ FS preorder threads (I'd sure take a $1,000.00 loss to get $6,500.00+ back if I needed my damn money from 2 years ago), refund requests (its fair to request a refund since the promised timeline has pased...many times), credit card disputes filed & etc until its a full blown Holland tulip collapse.

Word.

That a** is much better Snow, leaves a little to the imagination!

You don't always have to read them. I ordered a WOZ in Jan. 2011 and even I don't often click the JJP threads. The wait went from no big deal, to very hard, back down to no big deal. It'll get here when it gets here, hopefully soon, but I just want it to be right. I don't want to be installing brackets two months down the line because this or that is starting to crack, or sending boards out to get repaired, or whatever. It's a start up, and this is business as usual for a start up as far as I'm concerned.

One nagging thought did enter my head this week though... I had a chance (as we all did) to get a TRON LE for $5k in May of 2011. I didn't because I had my money on WOZ. At this point, I could have played that for a year and sold it without losing anything, and had more than enough to get a WOZ in the past few months.... ah well, you can't have them all...