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Does this describe/sum up EM repair?

By nagamitsu

9 years ago


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#15 9 years ago
Quoted from Airaces:

check out my youtube videos on em repair. type, airaces1 in the search of youtube. Start by cleaning and ajust all contacts. check and clean all steppers. I never plug a game in til i go over everything in the game, 95% of the time the game fires up and play like it came out of the factory.

Quit trolling for hits on your videos, dude.

#25 9 years ago
Quoted from nagamitsu:

Thanks! Got it working. Technically all components functioned, was a switch on the bonus stepper itself, that as much as it looked to be making proper contact, it was not. Cleaned further and adjusted, and now game working perfectly.
Tim

Now THAT sums up EM repair. So, so many times, it's a switch that looks like it is making, but isn't.

#31 9 years ago
Quoted from SilverBallKid:

I totally LOVE reading these EM repair threads. Since multiple Tim's have chimed in, I'll do the same...
I'm new to EMs as well, and I have gone through the kind of situation you did in August. My Space Odyssey went for 13 days without working properly due to 2 separate issues with leaf switches. One was fused shut and just needed some cleaning from a flexstone and the other was bridged by its leaf stiffener causing the switch to be "made" at all times. Both problems were caused by my own attempts to "fix" other issues.
*The fused contacts were on my Tilt Relay. This was causing the game to be constantly in "Tilt" and cutting power to all my playfield scoring.
*The bridged switch caused by the bent stiffener was on the ball eject switch. This meant that the circuit was being told that the ball was still in the drain hole even after the solenoid had kicked it into the shooter lane.
So I had a game that was not scoring AND the ball eject solenoid was firing over and over every time I turned the sucker on and started a new game. However, this situation (as those with more experience than me likely could have EASILY seen and backtracked through) was causing the score motor to work through the reset sequence over and over again when I fired up the game. It was driving me absolutely nuts and I reached a point where my frustration led me to just give up. At that point, I told myself that I wasn't going to ever be able to fix the thing and I was on the verge of considering calling in a tech or whatever to get the table working again. All I can say is that I'm glad I didn't. Why?
Because it was only by settling down, taking a breath and listening to some great, helpful people on here like chrisbee and SteveFury that I got to the bottom of the issue. I had gotten myself so worked up, being new to the hobby, that I was forgetting exactly what so many people have said in this thread - it is usually very logical and basic with an EM. Settle down, reference the schematic to find out what switches and relays are "in play" for the specific issue, and methodically work it through. It was a huge lesson for me to learn and I'm glad I stuck with it.
Glad you're up and running again! Every time you (or me or anyone else new to this) take the time to work the logical steps out and find the source of the problem, it makes you that much better at EM repair. It amazes me what I've learned in my first six months with my machine, and hopefully you're feeling the same way. I feel like the confidence gained through sticking it out and fixing such issues makes things less stressful down the road when other issues pop up.
Cheers,
Tim in Motown

Which is why I posted what I did about "going through the entire game" method. It's fine if you're an experienced hand at fixing EM games. If you're just getting started, diving in and messing with every single switch on the game is way more likely to end in disaster than in success.

Clay himself said in his guides that it happened to him when he started out. Get some experience in before you start trying to clean and adjust every single switch on a game. Even then, it's basically not really necessary the vast majority of the time.

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