Popeye Saves the Earth
Bally, 1994Getting occasional Trough Switch #52 error 2nd on Popeye.
My hunch is the trough may have divots keeping the balls from rolling downhill. Plus magnetism...
I removed all 6 balls and dropped them in with Switch Test active and all the trough positions lit up correctly.
Then the switch error went away...so is my assumption correct? I need this shim?
And for those that have used it, how did it fair?
Thanks in advance!
The one I have in my shadow works great but for some reason it keeps getting pushed out, I find it in the bottom of the cabinet constantly
Didn't work in my STTNG. Ball was getting hung up on the outside edge of the trough somehow. Swapped the trough out for another and problem solved.
I've also had trouble getting the shim to stay in the trough.
But most people seem to have better luck with it, so worth a shot as they are not expensive.
Quoted from CUJO:may have divots
May have ? Have you looked ?
If so. Remove the ball trough. Remove the opto boards. Remove the end. Stick a flat bastard mill file in that end and file each side of the "V" grove smooth. 5 to 10 minutes.
Clean everything. Reassemble.
LTG : )
Does any body know if someone still makes the metal shim? The plastic ones say they are for IJ and later games.
Otherwise, has anyone tried to use the PETG one in Addams?
Quoted from CactusJack:Otherwise, has anyone tried to use the PETG one in Addams?
Different trough design. Won't work on Addams.
LTG : )
Quoted from LTG:Different trough design. Won't work on Addams.
LTG : )
Still haven't gotten the shim yet but will soon. Someone is supposed to bring me 2 to a local pinball parts shop that just opened a few miles from me.
The balls might be a little magnetic in there but I'm curious if plastic shim makes the ball trough a little quieter since it's not metal on metal anymore.
Quoted from LTG:May have ? Have you looked ?
If so. Remove the ball trough. Remove the opto boards. Remove the end. Stick a flat bastard mill file in that end and file each side of the "V" grove smooth. 5 to 10 minutes.
Clean everything. Reassemble.
LTG : )
I did this to my ST:TNG when I got it years ago. Took care of the issue but looking for the lazy way out this time.
Does anyone know if the shim will work in JJP games? I would like to use one in Dialed In in order to use Ninja Chrome balls.
It fits JJP. Same exact trough as WPC 95 games. It won’t solve ultra magnetized ball issues, though. They’ll stick to each other and jam anyway. I have had this exact experience.
Yes it works. I miss the old metal ones but these plastic ones work too, just use a little double sided tape to secure it. I just installed one in a scared stiff that was having multiball issues and the problem disappeared instantly.
Quoted from pinballplusMN:I need to order some of these . Who has stock currently.
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-16809
LTG : )
The metal shim did not work on my IJ. The balls would hang up because they were rubbing on the bottom of the playfield. I could of added washers to the screws holding the trough, but I decided to file the divots out. Problem solved.
Quoted from pinballplusMN:I need to order some of these . Who has stock currently. Thanks!
If you know someone, oh have a 3d printer. A file is on thingiverse.
The plastic shims are often out of stock. A few months ago when they were back in stock, I ordered them for my STTNG, IJ, MMrSE and NGG. One went in easily. The others required a lot of trimming in order to fit within the ball trough and I ended up just removing it from my IJ since it created issues with the optos sensing the balls. Still think they are helpful, but was a lot more work than I planned.
Quoted from dsuperbee:10 minutes with a dremel and a grinding attachment is all it takes to fix the problem. No shims needed.
4 seconds with a shim works too, and the issue will never come back.
Hey, some of us are just lazier than others. And after all these years I still don't have a dremel. And the shim will ALWAYS work better (faster) anyway than the original, flawed design.
Quoted from Gorgar666:https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2790469
Found it. Thanks.
Thank you for this. Still relevant and helpful. Worked on mine just now
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