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Does pinball "A.G. Futbol" exist?

By noflip95

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

A question about an Alvin Gottlieb pinball : maybe a German or Dutch Pinsider can answer me?
And the answer is not in IPDB !

Alvin Gottlieb produced a head-to-head pinball machine known in the US as A.G. Soccer-Ball and there was at least one export version, named A.G. Football. Not to be confused with the A.G. USA Football which has it an American football table.

It is also known that there are at least two versions of ROMS: R07U (July 1992) and R18U (April 1993).
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It is possible to change the configuration, for the national hymns, for the language (English, French and German), but also for the title of the game: Soccer, Fooball and Futbol.
It seems, therefore, that Alvin had planned to produce three variants of this pinball.
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We know one export version, the "Football" that seems to have been intended for the French market (or European - non German market).
This one has a specific cabinet, apron and portal where the name "soccer" has been replaced by "football".
A Flyer has also been printed for the "A.G. Fooball", but by mistake, the pictures on it are thoses of the "A.G. Soccer-Ball".
But as you can see, the cabinet is really different from flyer:
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Have you ever seen another pinball with a cabinet marked "A.G. Futbol", or did Alvin eventually limit himself to a single export version "A.G. Football"?
Of course, any picture of an "A.G. Futbol" (if it exist) are welcome.

#2 4 years ago

There are a few photos of AG Football, but it looks like same as the in the photos you posted here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/archive/ag-football/gallery

A video:

But I'm not seeing any reference for the European spelling of "Futbol".

Quoted from noflip95:

It is possible to change the configuration, for the national hymns, for the language (English, French and German), but also for the title of the game: Soccer, Fooball and Futbol.
It seems, therefore, that Alvin had planned to produce three variants of this pinball.

Maybe it was just intended to be a regional code change, and not an artwork change?

#3 4 years ago

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#4 4 years ago
Quoted from noflip95:

A question about an Alvin Gottlieb pinball :

Have you ever seen another pinball with a cabinet marked "A.G. Futbol", or did Alvin eventually limit himself to a single export version "A.G. Football"?

No, the cabinet decals were only made with Soccer-Ball and Football on them.

#5 4 years ago

I have seen mainly decal kits and never a full machine. I think most of them are AG soccer-ball with very few AG football.

I have a soccer-ball and own a full decal + header plastic for football.

#6 4 years ago

Thanks,

I believe also that the name "Football" was more generic than "fútbol", "Fußball" or "Calcio" !
Having a single version for export was for sure, more economical.
2017-09-26_07h45_28 (resized).pngProducing specific plastics for the portal and apron was probably a major expense item.

Quoted from ForceFlow:

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But I'm not seeing any reference for the European spelling of "Futbol".

Fútbol is the term used for Football in Spanish.
But the pinball display is not intended for accents !

Perhaps Alvin was targeting the Hispanic market with a specific model (Spain, South America - but not Brasil -> Futebol).

#7 4 years ago
Quoted from valentin27:

I have seen mainly decal kits and never a full machine. I think most of them are AG soccer-ball with very few AG football.
I have a soccer-ball and own a full decal + header plastic for football.

They were made in equal numbers, but as intended, the export version (A.G. Football) did get exported, so they are rarely seen here in the US. South America and Europe getting the majority of them.

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