Dude, stop with the vindictive bullshit already. Your thread started off good; now you're acting like a child.

I think it's more like "the better players make rules/games that better players like better"

Lyman, Keefer and now Keith Elwin games play out in ways that I enjoy.. good risk/reward for various shots, lots of ways (deep AND broad) to score, gameplay objectives that are easy to grasp but tough to master, exciting and challenging setup opportunities, and games that don't waste the player's time. Variety is great and I certainly enjoy playing games from all the other designers out there but man, those three know their shit.

It worked for Tron, TWD and BM66.

Sort of

Tron he inherited from someone else and polished it up; TWD he inherited Stern's mistake WRT voice content, started over and still made a badass game; BM66 he inherited a crummy playfield/toys and made it fun regardless.

All IMHO of course

Stern POTC = start the easiest multiball, bring in the rest, repeat forever. And those godawful dribbles that have to be banged off the wall every. f'n. time. Bleh.