I was just sayin that cuz you guys both posted right on top of each other with your AC/DC Avatars

Not heard that! Playing a BIBLE next week so hope to hear it

I own Iron Man and AC/DC and they're really nothing like each other...other than being brutal and having really short ball times for the most part (although AC/DC's get longer as you get better, whereas IM's really don't).

The thing that sets AC/DC apart has nothing to do with the music, playfield, sound, cloudy window, or anything else like that, it's the ruleset. There are so many scoring options and so many different ways to make a high score that it really gives the game superb replay value. Most games there's a shot that if you suck at, you're going to do terrible on the game no matter what (mode hole, gem shot, etc). That doesn't really exist in AC/DC, as you can choose a song to work around your strengths. There's no other game in existence with a ruleset like it, there's so much risk/reward going on constantly while you're playing...do I try and stack another multiball, do I try and hit the bell again for 2x scoring, should I change songs before multiball, etc.

If you don't like stacking rulesets and want more of a 'one mode at a time' kind of game like IJ, you're not going to like AC/DC probably. But if you like games that are hard and have lots of stacking, AC/DC is for you. It's a different mindset, and you can read posts over the past 6 months where the same person disliked the game, then were lukewarm, then loved it...and you can see this happen over and over again. The game isn't going to click 100% with you until you understand the ruleset.

That's a fair point your making. The rules can change a lot on perception. Listen, I like it enough I'm interested to play it more. To own right now, I just honestly feel like IM in gameplay - to me. I'll challenge myself more on the rules to be open minded.

I will caveat this by saying I owned a TSPP and while I respect those deep rules, that games is not for me either.

Nailed it.

Played it I would guess about 40-50 games. I own Iron Man, Spiderman, LOTR LE , Family Guy and RBION as far as Stern machines. I did have a TSPP but that didn't do it for me either and it has left.

At the risk of having McCune send me more insulting PM's I will say that I was unimpressed by the Pro version. Have not played a Premium or LE yet, so I am witholding complete judgment on this pin.

My history kind of went like this:

Saw pictures of the pro in January, huge face, what were they thinking???
Played a pro in person in March, game was fun but not mind blowing. Had very early code, decided not to buy one. Face wasn't bad in person.
In June, code started getting updated and the reviews started to get better, so I thought about getting a pro AC/DC with a pro X-Men in one shipment.
In July, X-Men started getting lukewarm reviews, decided not to get that. Then I played an AC/DC premium for the first time, I left feeling pretty wowed by the lights and sound. Still had no idea what was going on when I was playing it.
Debated on it for a month, decided to fork out the cash for the premium due to X-Men's shaky launch
Got in August, have put like 600 or 700 plays on it in two months.

So the same sort of path that many others have taken.

After playing AC/DC, I found it to be the most memorable of the newer Stern machines. I also thought it was a bad idea, before I played it, I was wrong. Gameplay is awesome. Maybe someday I will be able to afford a premium as I like all the extra goodies. AC/DC Rocks.
Bob
On a side note, if Stern could not acquire the Led Zep license, I hope and pray they can get an Ozzy/Black Sabbath license............please, NO kiss.

Never hear that.
But on Theatre of Magic I always hear the lady say to "Shoot for the magic drunk".

Best game I've ever played. But there are always haters out there!

WHO CARES?!?!?!?

I went to an arcade to play tron and ac/dc to decide if I wanted to buy one. Both games seemed decent but I was not impressed. Revisited the same arcade a couple of weeks later and really liked the ac/dc. Currently saving for the premium AC/DC. I wasn't a huge AC/DC music fan, but I think it is an excellent choice for a pinball machine!!

Premium/LE is worlds better then the Pro IMO.

I love it. My husband loves it. His Dad loves it. My 6 year-old daughter loves it, so does her best friend's mom and the family across the street from us. I can't comment beyond that only because we haven't had anyone else over to play it yet.

Lol......nice contribution to the thread. Move along if you don't care.

I hate ACDC.

I love ACDC.

Yes it's a love/hate thing. Always keeps me coming back for more. Most addicting pin I've ever owned.

On Tron I hear "Disc battles, f*ckin' spectacular arenas!"

(I know he's saying "fought in"...but it sounds like f*ckin'!)

I'm looking forward to playing the LE at Flippers in a few weeks. Actually I kinda hope I don't like it, because if I like it I'll want to buy one and a 6k pin (for the Premium) isn't exactly in my budget right now!

If you don't "hate" ACDC and love fast action style games you can't lose with ACDC. Even if you don't like it after you've had it a while enough people will want it you won't take a huge loss like others have on other titles.

If its out of your budget I'd suggest not playing it then. Lol

Nothing good can happen if its not in the budget as of right now.

"Nothing good" is exactly right, because I can afford one but I feel that I have too much money sunk into this hobby already.

I hate AC/DC music
I hate the Steeve Ritchie voice
I hate the Angus face
For my part the cab art and translite art is so so...
But I have to say I love this hard genius game
Yes I only have AC/DC pro but this is one my best choice that I'll done

It's a good game, but personally I don't like AC/DC's music so I would never own one. I don't even dislike their music, it's the singer(s) voice. I just can't stand it. If I could get one without vocals on it I'd love it!

But how many doctors recommend it?

Nailed it.

You just put it up for sale 3 hours later.

Good luck on your grail pin. Hope you land it.

I love my ACDC. One of the best games I've played and by far the best game for multi-players I've ever played.

Miss post

Sorry, looks like Coaster put it up for sale 3 hours after he posted the positive comments on the game. I think he's owned it longer. Over/under is 2 weeks.

Just teasing my friend. I love watching you buy/sell. Keep it up!!

I don't dislike acdc but I often don't have much fun playing it.

So I have the premium. I play it a fair amount. I find I have fun about 33% of the time and am frustrated the other 67%. The game is fast and the flow is amazing. But the outlanes are vicious. Steve is an expert at "where will the ball go if you hit here". He purposely designed a game that sends the ball where you don't want it on almost every shot. The game is cheap and it tries to screw you. Centered angled target bank to send balls to the outlane? Stand up targets by every ramp to ricochet back at you if you miss? The bell often sends the ball SDTM. You have to keep the tilt bob liberal and nudge a lot. The cannon screws you often even if you make your designated shot. The game will make you play better. There is some decent challenge here but also some decent frustration. It's a lot like ironman in this regard. As I said, I often come away having had no fun at all. But in the end, I like the game.

I'm not a huge acdc fan but I also don't hate them. The machine artwork is pretty ugly. (I was the one that designed my own translite for the game). But the toys and lighting makes the game look great. As for the lower pf, you're in and out of there quickly. It's not a major part of the game play. But it is a decent part of game scoring strategy.

It is really nothing like T2. T2 had good flow and a similar layout but acdc is fast and plays so different. T2 is a much more controlled game. Anyone that says the game is like T2 with acdc music clearly has no idea about this game and you should ignore their worthless opinion. Yes everyone has differing opinions. Some may like and some may hate. But to say this is like T2 indicates you only looked at the game on paper and have not put time into it.

Lyman's rules on this game are complex and brilliant. The stacking, rewards, VIP pass strategy, Dracula like mb stacking - one of the greatest rulesets in pinball - from pinballs best rule programmer. Lyman makes this game what it is. Yes Steve designed a good flowing game. But Lyman added all the risk / reward in the rules. He is responsible for the fun. The sound is great. Someone said playing without sound sucks. Well yea. You'd be playing without a good chunk of the game. Crank it up and enjoy it.

If you like games that are fast, punishing, adrenalin rush with huge potential pay offs, you will probably like acdc.

I initially disliked AC/DC. Played a Pro on location. Too fast, no control, old ruleset, no understanding of anything, apparently repetitive shots and music at the lowest possible volume.

Then I found another Pro with updated rules, and a beautiful Premium. A few dozen game later, I was a convert. Now I am a zealous convert. Beware that game is the most addictive drug I know (OK, I did not test all of them

The only thing I could say now against AC/DC is that the machines on location are relatively fragile - broken plastics and a more serious breakdown currently prevent me from playing it right now. Blasting Martians as a substitute !

Not a big fan of the pro. Have played it alot but just can't get that into it. The LE looks to be much better but cannot find one to play. It kind of pisses me off that there is such a difference in the two. LE's should have upgraded parts, toys, trim, backglass etc. but not different gameplay.

The AC/DC pro on location just got updated code. Wow, what a difference. It is like night and day. I still don't like the fact that there is such a difference in gameplay and physical design between LE and pro but I have gone from being disappointed in this title to really liking it. Tron LE also got an update but now I can't stack Daft PunK multiball and identity disk multiball. WTF? They took one of the funnest aspects of TRON LE and ruined it.

I Didnt think you could stack Daft Punk (EOL) multiball with any of the other multiballs.

I feel exactly the same about the music, and I absolutely love playing this game.
The songs are fun to pin-jam to, that's all that matters. Great game!

You mean like TRS, Avatar, IM and lots of other games?

You mean like virtually every recent Stern?

I'm not sure how long you've owned your game, but one of the first things I learned (playing strictly on location) is to NOT shoot for the low value 'designated shot'. Unless you're shooting for a song jackpot, the risk is not worth the measly reward. The game tries to tempt you sometimes by offering a double jackpot with 2 or more targets lit for jackpots. Still not enough. Don't do it. Instead, aim for the bell. It's generally a safer shot from the cannon than from either flipper. If you watch the PAPA videos, you'll see how most players shoot the bell more often than whatever cheap jackpot is lit.

I like ACDC as a band. I do not think they are the greatest ever but like them. For that reason I was not sure if I would like the game or not. I played the pin a couple weeks ago at markmons (thanks again) I only played 2 or 3 games but liked every minute I played. I really cursed at the bell a couple times though as a soft shot into it as you all know by now goes SDTM.

While visiting Expo,I was able to corner Steve Richie , he shook my hand and looked down at my name tag and said " McCune ! The guy who loves AC/DC the most ! "

Made my Expo !

Jim

I know we've had disagreements in the past McCune but that is admittedly really cool.

Not a huge fan. I can play it at a bar for awhile and it keeps my interest...but I wouldn't want to own it.

Damn thats cool!

LOL! I am a Devils fan as well, also not crazy about the theme.

Interesting...

Nice. That sounds very much like Steve. We are very fortunate to have him in this hobby.

Kinda meh for me so far, but I still want one. I have a feeling that with all the rules variations Lyman created that I will love the challenge and the different ways to play if its in my basement and I can do hour long sessions at a time.

Game play is NOT second to none. There are better Ritchie/Sheets games. Come up (im 40 miles from you) and look at my LOTR. Now that's a game that's second to none.

Whoops, looks like you have LOTR. But you do don't have Spidey

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For you ! Not me ! I wouldn't own a LOTR unless I could sell it to make money on .

I did not hear one bad thing about AC/DC during the four days at EXPO .

Jim

I believe there was a poll on here recently...I only looked at what pin placed first. Where did ACDC end up placing?