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Doctor Who Owners Club.....Time Lords Welcome!

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#2501 4 years ago

Hi

No Acid super clean boards

I can check to see if I have a loose connector

What happens is

I lock a ball , next ball loads as it should

But then a 3rd ball is served from the trough

Now if I play and lock the 2nd ball the MPF rises as it should the right right just keeps adding lights as it’s closed

I’ll dig around more

Maybe this Opto in the MPF is the culprit ?

#2502 4 years ago

Huh. It certainly feels like it could be connected.

Have you gone through the single switch tests to see if anything else isn’t working right?

#2503 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I'm thinking of doing the siderails and lockdown bar in oxford (tardis) blue.
Too much?

I say yes, The chrome balances the game, but if you have old pieces, give it a try. I did the coin door, bilt head and head plates to cabinet in blue

#2504 4 years ago

Evaporust did a great job on my rusty legs...

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#2505 4 years ago
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:

Hi
Maybe a fellow Doctor Who owner can relate or guide me
I have an intermittent issue on my DW
Issue:
I lock 1 ball in either R L eject hole
The game will load 1 ball and Auto Launch and then the 3rd ball into shooter lane
I have already replaced all the trough switches and shooter lane switch with new plus all new diodes
Still have the issue
I’ll also me mention that sw 71 the right most opto on MPF is stuck closed right now but per the Sw Matrix have nothing in common anywhere on the grid
Any ideas what to check ?
I was told check the obvious so I did and replaced what seemed to be the most logical but that didn’t fix the issue
Thanks in advance
I enjoy the game but want it properly working

I had a simliar issue. Temporarily fixed it by scrubbing down the mpu with vinigar. There was prvious damage in the area.

#2506 4 years ago
Quoted from yellowghost:

I had a simliar issue. Temporarily fixed it by scrubbing down the mpu with vinigar. There was prvious damage in the area.

Okay I’ll check the board again but it was super clean

See picture
I installed a remote holder as well to keep board safe

I do thank all for your help

Will also next check out the MPF to figure out that opto - maybe they are linked some way even though different COL / ROW on the Sw Matrix

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#2507 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

I say yes, The chrome balances the game, but if you have old pieces, give it a try. I did the coin door, bilt head and head plates to cabinet in blue

I'm thinking basic satin black siderails and lockdown bar.

It matches the head trim and makes the colors pop a bit.

So, black trim?

Satin or gloss?

I think the stainless looks cheap.
Chrome is good but maybe black is better?

#2508 4 years ago

Lol, I always thought black looked cheap and stainless looked nicer.

#2509 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I'm thinking basic satin black siderails and lockdown bar.
It matches the head trim and makes the colors pop a bit.
So, black trim?
Satin or gloss?
I think the stainless looks cheap.
Chrome is good but maybe black is better?

If you do black, it has to be gloss, otherwise it just looks like paint. Actual chrome wouldn’t look half bad - but I don’t know if it’s the perfect thing for this game. I’ve reached out to a couple of powder coaters about doing sort of a “racing stripe” thing on the lock bars and legs. Mainly oxford blue (a touch darker actually) and a deep red stripe. It would definitely make the game pop!

#2510 4 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

If you do black, it has to be gloss, otherwise it just looks like paint. Actual chrome wouldn’t look half bad - but I don’t know if it’s the perfect thing for this game. I’ve reached out to a couple of powder coaters about doing sort of a “racing stripe” thing on the lock bars and legs. Mainly oxford blue (a touch darker actually) and a deep red stripe. It would definitely make the game pop!

Yes, a dark matching blue with black and light silver metal flake?

I saw a sample of cosmic metal flake. Looked really good like galaxy washed denim.

The hardest part is getting the right blue color.

#2511 4 years ago

Anybody needing new slingshot kicker plastics, the ones on the marco website are washed out and look terrible. However I put a blue and ice blue GI bulbs underneath and it looks sorta presentable but wish somebody sold a better product.

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#2512 4 years ago

I grabbed an eBay set and they didn't look that great either... but they looked alot better than broken.

#2513 4 years ago
Quoted from yellowghost:

Anybody needing new slingshot kicker plastics, the ones on the marco website are washed out and look terrible. However I put a blue and ice blue GI bulbs underneath and it looks sorta presentable but wish somebody sold a better product.[quoted image]

Little shop of games had some NOS. I bought a pair, they look ok to me.

They also had nos standup target stickers.

Now, where to get the standups A-15330-4 and the little single one on the right?

The time expander red standup is not available do I got a couple regular ones and modified the bottom a bit. Seems to work for now.

#2514 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Little shop of games had some NOS. I bought a pair, they look ok to me.
They also had nos standup target stickers.
Now, where to get the standups A-15330-4 and the little single one on the right?
The time expander red standup is not available do I got a couple regular ones and modified the bottom a bit. Seems to work for now.

Marco sells the single standup sticker on the right. I bought some NOS left standup stickers off Ebay, they are really nice.

#2515 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

Marco sells the single standup sticker on the right. I bought some NOS left standup stickers off Ebay, they are really nice.

Thanks!

I got the stickers but was thinking of replacing all of the standup target switches themselves, mine are pretty beat.

#2516 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Thanks!
I got the stickers but was thinking of replacing all of the standup target switches themselves, mine are pretty beat.

Oh oh, nah, just put new stickers on them. it is a PIA to replace them

#2517 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Yes, a dark matching blue with black and light silver metal flake?
I saw a sample of cosmic metal flake. Looked really good like galaxy washed denim.
The hardest part is getting the right blue color.

That sounds awesome. There’s also the candy color thing which is a layer of color then a second layer which somehow reacts to the first and ends up making it look translucent

#2518 4 years ago

Is Pinsound worth it for Dr Who? Don’t seem to be that many orchestrations. Thoughts?

#2519 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Is Pinsound worth it for Dr Who? Don’t seem to be that many orchestrations. Thoughts?

Oh. My god. Yes. Totally different game

#2520 4 years ago

I have some original mushroom targets that I'll be selling for $10 each, or all of them for $35 plus shipping from 46814 if someone wants the originals to try to match to what they have. I have 4 good targets and 2 busted ones.

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#2521 4 years ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

I have some original mushroom targets that I'll be selling for $10 each, or all of them for $35 plus shipping from 46814 if someone wants the originals to try to match to what they have. I have 4 good targets and 2 busted ones.[quoted image]

I'd like to buy them if they are still available.

#2522 4 years ago

Or if you'd like optional colors, check Swinks stuff out. Prices range from 7 to 12 each.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/Q6BMQBFSZ/doctor-who-pinball-mushroom-target-button-1-off?optionId=65150373&li=marketplace

#2523 4 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Oh. My god. Yes. Totally different game

Thanks for the feedback. I was on the fence but it’s not that big an investment really. Do you know if the original soundtrack was converted to Stereo? Thanks for the help.

#2524 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Thanks for the feedback. I was on the fence but it’s not that big an investment really. Do you know if the original soundtrack was converted to Stereo? Thanks for the help.

The original game soundtrack? (Vs the show). I do not believe so - there's really not such a thing as "converting to stereo". But if you get the modern theme mix you'll have full high fidelity sound in true stereo. The disco mix too

#2525 4 years ago

Okay

I did literally nothing

Now it’s working kinda properly

The opto issue went away for like 1-3 games and no Credit Dot

Then back again

So I’ll pull that MPF see what’s what

Any pointers to getting to the opto bank ?

Thank you so far for the help

I actually enjoyed playing it without that damn hiccup

#2526 4 years ago

You can access the optos from the MPF
by unscrewing the 4 screws on the underside of the MPF. Then pull up the whole black plastic assy with the optos

#2527 4 years ago
Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:

Any pointers to getting to the opto bank ?

You've seen my white paper yes? I covered that.

Get it here at the bottom of my "website" https://sites.google.com/site/pinballfaz/

faz

#2528 4 years ago
Quoted from pinball_faz:

You've seen my white paper yes? I covered that.
Get it here at the bottom of my "website" https://sites.google.com/site/pinballfaz/
faz

This should be required reading for DW owners. It is outstanding

#2529 4 years ago

After 27 years of battling daleks, sling switches get replaced:
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They were riveted on, and I could re-rivet them, but all the new games use screws now.

Plus they charge a lot more for a switch riveted onto a bracket that has the side tab on the wrong side.

Easy enough to flip it over on just the switch.

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#2530 4 years ago

Rit dye tests on shapeways 3d printed parts:

Rit liquid dye in black.
I put white pop bumper bodies in the dye to see if the 3d parts absorb the same.

They dont.
Soaked for 1 hour at 180 degrees

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#2531 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Rit dye tests on shapeways 3d printed parts:
Rit liquid dye in black.
I put white pop bumper bodies in the dye to see if the 3d parts absorb the same.
They dont.
Soaked for 1 hour at 180 degrees[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I actually like the color.
I can paint them with satin krylon if I change my mind.

The dyed plastic wont show chips or scratches.

#2532 4 years ago

I soaked some mushroom buttons in frost gray dye more for synthetics.

It was way more effective than the regular rit dye.

They came out darker than I anticipated after only 10 mins, 3 might have done it.

But I can soak them on chlorine bleach to lighten them.

I kinda like them this color for now.
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#2533 4 years ago

I'm absolutely sure that with a little effort one could get the exact shade of gray they wanted with the dye.

#2534 4 years ago

nice work and thanks for sharing

#2535 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I soaked some mushroom buttons in frost gray dye more for synthetics.
It was way more effective than the regular rit dye.
They came out darker than I anticipated after only 10 mins, 3 might have done it.
But I can soak them on chlorine bleach to lighten them.
I kinda like them this color for now.
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Not bad! I am considering making them silver on my game, so they look more like the Dalek bumps

#2536 4 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Not bad! I am considering making them silver on my game, so they look more like the Dalek bumps

I was going for a rusted steel look, but I imagine any color could be dyed.

The dyemore takes only about 5 mins.

#2537 4 years ago

Back to the crooked playfield.

Cab bolts are perfect.

Pivot nuts replaced, they were worn.
Playfield mounts are replaced.

Playfield is twisted 1/2" or more.
Upper right corner is low 1/4"

The problem is that the time expander hangs behind the playfield mounts and The 3 pop bumpers hang in the upper right corner.

This has caused a bend.

The playfield is somewhat unsupported in the rear third.

I think reese rails will stiffen it up a lot.

I added a 1/8" shim under the right mounting bracket.

This lowered the left corner and raised the right corner.

The 1/4" drop of the upper right corner is solved for now.
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#2538 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Back to the crooked playfield.
Cab bolts are perfect.
Pivot nuts replaced, they were worn.
Playfield mounts are replaced.
Playfield is twisted 1/2" or more.
Upper right corner is low 1/4"
The problem is that the time expander hangs behind the playfield mounts and The 3 pop bumpers hang in the upper right corner.
This has caused a bend.
The playfield is somewhat unsupported in the rear third.
I think reese rails will stiffen it up a lot.
I added a 1/8" shim under the right mounting bracket.
This lowered the left corner and raised the right corner.
The 1/4" drop of the upper right corner is solved for now.
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You can see that the hole for the pivot nut and screw is worn on the inside, causing the tilt. Mine was similar and I see you used my shim idea, nice job

#2539 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

You can see that the hole for the pivot nut and screw is worn on the inside, causing the tilt. Mine was similar and I see you used my shim idea, nice job

I was hoping that were true!

I could fix it with a dowel and re-drill it.

My inside hole is tight around the screw on both sides as it should be.

The pivot nut and screw are square to the cabinet side.

Only after measuring locations and using squares did I finally do as you suggested, add a shim.

I can possibly add a piece of 1/4" steel angle stock to firm up the twist in the playfield on the right side.

But I'm interested in whether the reese rails will do the same.

The original cardboard rails do very little on this game and have attributed to the sag in the rear.

Most notably the pop bumper area that is largely unsupported.

#2540 4 years ago

My cabinet is bowed about 1/8" horizontally and vertically, as well as the bottom (a tiny but cupped).

It might have been in a humid area.

I'll correct this during the cabinet restore.

Ill just sand off the material with the 6" ro sander until its flat enough.

#2541 4 years ago

I removed all the mylar using the freeze method today.

It took 1/4 can, sprayed a little at a time to reach optimal temperature. It worked perfectly on the diamond plated surface.

Zero paint or clearcoat loss.

Took about 20 mins.

I'm going to try rapid tac remover on this playfield to see how it works.

They promise it will remove adhesive in as little as 1 or 2 mins.

We'll see.

#2542 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

You can see that the hole for the pivot nut and screw is worn on the inside,

Good call!
I see it now.

Its the cabinet side that is warped/bowed.
Also there is a ground braid pushing the nut crooked. Itt see about relocating the braid.
I'll sand it flat in any case.

#2543 4 years ago

Need a memeber to look at their game andnsee where connector J132 from the power driver board goes too. I am missing the entire connector. The schematic shows it goes to the back box for some insert flashers.

Thanks,

Ken

#2544 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

Need a memeber to look at their game andnsee where connector J132 from the power driver board goes too. I am missing the entire connector. The schematic shows it goes to the back box for some insert flashers.
Thanks,
Ken

Too bad I just pulled all my harnesses, or id check it.
I remember labeling the connector...?

Does it go to the little harness on the playfield backstop right corner, there are 2 flashers there behind the big square plastic transmat sign.

#2545 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Too bad I just pulled all my harnesses, or id check it.
I remember labeling the connector...?
Does it go to the little harness on the playfield backstop right corner, there are 2 flashers there behind the big square plastic transmat sign.

Im not sure, I never thought to look there.

#2546 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

andnsee where connector J132 from the power driver board goes

Nothing on J132 on mine.

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#2547 4 years ago
Quoted from Catch86:

Nothing on J132 on mine.[quoted image]

Thank You. I wonder why this plug is empty, yet it shows on the schematic. I was pulling my hair out.

#2548 4 years ago

Why is my playfield dragging on the cabinet sides?

This seems to be the source of the cabinet gouging.

The mounts are offset by 1/8"
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#2549 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Why is my playfield dragging on the cabinet sides?
This seems to be the source of the cabinet gouging.
The mounts are offset by 1/8"
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The left mount is wrong.

The playfield does not hook into the lockdown reciever correctly.

I have to pull it forward on the left to get the front hangers into the slots.

So, I have to move the left bracket rearward 1/8".

#2550 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

The left mount is wrong.
The playfield does not hook into the lockdown reciever correctly.
I have to pull it forward on the left to get the front hangers into the slots.
So, I have to move the left bracket rearward 1/8".

Ended up moving the left bracket about 5/32".

This did 2 things.

1) The playfield now pivots smoothly and cleanly, it no longer scrapes the sides.

2) the playfield no longer has to be forced onto the front hanger slots by pushing it sideways in the front.

Doing this causes the pivot to ride the left mount more rearward, raising it higher relative to the right bracket. The bracket has a slope built into it.
Pulling the playfield forward raises its height.

This caused the playfield to be higher on the left about 1/8".

The shim I added on the right is now removed.
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