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Do you use soft flipper taps on modern games?


By Prodoshi

9 months ago



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    #1 9 months ago

    Hello,

    after playing about half a year i found it sometimes usefull to just give the ball a light flip to get the ball under controll in cradle situation, I'm not talking about flick passes. Inspired by this, I thought about using weak shots for "dangerous shots"- like targets with a high drain risk.

    I found it very hard to aim with this technique, because sometimes the flipper wont move and the travel paths also seems to be different.
    It helped to route the middlefinger below the button to get a sense for the distance. I pulled it off some times, resulting in a slow ball hitting that target and it was easy to predict its path.

    Anyone uses soft shots and to what extend?

    #2 9 months ago

    sorry, maybe my was description was bad

    i found a video of the technique i was talking about, check out from 0:46 !

    He calles it a LOB SHOT:
    "You tap hard (but still a tap) when the ball is exactly half way down the bat rather waiting until the ball is near the tip of the bat for a standard tap. The lob is a weak shot that bloops the ball into a "Difficult to shoot target" that sits low (like the "K" in KISS), since a lot of full powered shots would hit the slingshot when shooting low."

    #3 9 months ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    sorry, maybe my was description was bad
    i found a video of the technique i was talking about, check out from 0:46 !
    He calles it a LOB SHOT:
    "You tap hard (but still a tap) when the ball is exactly half way down the bat rather waiting until the ball is near the tip of the bat for a standard tap. The lob is a weak shot that bloops the ball into a "Difficult to shoot target" that sits low (like the "K" in KISS), since a lot of full powered shots would hit the slingshot when shooting low."

    I think the guy in the video is demonstrating and invention he came up with a " finesse" flipper button which he has installed next to the regular flipper button that depowers the flipper to allow the "lob shot" . so I don't think you will be able to pull this shot off reliably without that hardware

    #4 9 months ago

    Thank You, you are right I checked out his other videos and found the explaination.

    Yeah I gues unreliability is the reason people dont use this technique.
    I tested some more and I still have the feeling I could benefit from it,
    even shooting with about 70% could give me some milliseconds to react faster.

    Maybe a better aim and nudging technique relativizes this issue again for me in some months

    #5 9 months ago

    keep practicing!! I just saw a video of Robert gagno playing LOTR where he gives a quick micro flip as the ball rolls down from the inlane to keep it on same flipper for a cradle, very useful.... I have not been able to replicate reliably yet !

    #6 9 months ago

    You can do that on some older games pretty easily and it's called a tap pass. On newer games, when I'm in that situation, I go with a tip pass or just a quick flip like pinballjj indicated to keep the ball on the flipper. Another option, is to give the machine a forward nudge when it hits the flipper. That will impart more momentum on the ball and help pop it over to the other flipper.

    Tap pass:

    Here is a good example of a tip pass:

    #7 9 months ago

    The tip pass technique can also be used to help trap a ball: when the ball is about 1/2-3/4 of the way up a held flipper, and looks to have enough speed to roll off, you can quickly release and re-press the flipper button to knock the ball back a bit and remove some momentum

    here's a video of bowen doing it on family guy

    at like 8:43

    #8 9 months ago

    Thank You guys, I know all techniques you described and i can execute them quite well! Except the Tap pass, because i have no old games here.

    My question was about using weak shots onto dangerous targets with a high drain risk.

    Spyderturbo007
    I thought the tip pass is called flick pass, like mentioned in my first post

    #9 9 months ago

    I like the rolling backhand for dangerous targets. Way different angle and you're not getting much power on the backhand as it's in midair when you drop the flipper to re-flip at it, so only about 1/2 the power stroke goes into it.

    #10 9 months ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Spyderturbo007
    I thought the tip pass is called flick pass, like mentioned in my first post

    I've seen all kinds of different names for things. I think you can pretty much call it whatever you want.

    #11 9 months ago

    I tested some more and i think its really interesting.

    look at this super fast impossible drop catch, also done with a light tap:

    here is an good example of such light shot (look at my right hand too):

    and here you see me trying to hit the left bank target with this technique a few times:

    the problem is the unpredictability, just a tiny bit harder or softer hit will change everything...

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