Quoted from TheLaw:
You look like a douchbag.
You inhale nicotine all damn day because you can do it anywhere you want.
You look like a tool.
1) Who gives a rat's ass about how it looks---if it works.
2) More later
3) Tool? You mean fool? Depends on how discreet you want to be.
Quoted from Floyd:
My Dad has smoked for 40 years. He wants to quit. Reading through this it seems like vaping might be the way to go for him. He could slowly reduce the nicotine level over time and hopefully get rid of his cravings. What are the negative things with vaping?
As I read through all of these posts, I hold those who managed to quit cold turkey in high admiration. As I mentioned way up at the top of the thread, I tried everything through the years. And I could not make the hump.
Several years before I quit, I knew I needed to quit. If I started laughing real hard it would turn into a coughing fit. And I was starting to develop a small cough-cough that was becoming more frequent. Still, I could not put them down.
My motivator was I needed some sinus surgery. The doctor said with the kind of surgery I was having that I should quit. My girl friend had quit a 2 pack a day habit two years previous.
After the surgery, my GF gave me one of those plastic cigs with the nicotine juice located in replaceable screw-on filters. After a week of puffing on that it broke. So I got serious.
I went to the vape shop and bought better vaping tool. I said I want the juice that tastes like a Marlboro Red. The flavor I bought was "Cowboy".
I went in with the objective that this was my do-or-die moment and I was serious about quitting and that I as going to wean myself. I was not going to start vaping just to replace the smokes.
I started out with my first bottle of juice being filled with 16 ml of nicotine. A bottle lasted about two to three weeks. As I would be here sitting at the computer the vape stick was so tempting: "Go ahead. Pick me up and take a puff. You don'e even need to bother with a lighter or a match. I am always here at ready". I puffed on that sucker. And I puffed and puffed. Probably more so than I used to puff on the cigarettes. I indulged.
Then I got bottle #2 juice and cut the added nicotine to 14 ml. I continued puffing away. I continued to indulge.
At bottle #3, I cut the nicotine to 12 ml.
Bottle #4 was 10 ml. Bottle #5 was 8 ml.
Somewhere around the 8 ml level I noticed I was not picking up the vape stick as much. It was getting more relaxed. And the bottles of juice were lasting a bit longer.
Bottle #6 was at 6 ml. of nicotine. And then with Bottle #7, I went to 3 ml of nicotine. I mentioned earlier about the "throat hit" you get when you take that drag and pull it in. The intensity of that hit is related to the nicotine level. At 6 ml and 3 ml, there was hardly a throat hit at all. It feels like you are sucking on air.
With Bottle #7, I went to 0 (zero) ml of nicotine. But I had some menthol flavor added so I could at least feel something.
All of the above process took about 3 months. But even at this I was still not clean. What I had finally broken was the ritual of grabbing a pack of smokes and lighter, put them in my pocket and leaving the house.
The gum did not work for me before because I always wanted that cigarette in my hand. With the grabbing for the smokes and lighter riyual now behind me I went with the 2% nicotine gum. Now, I am at no smokes and no vape stick when I leave the house. I only have the gum. After about a month of chewing the gum, I ran out of the gum at about 1am. I said I am not going to make a midnight run for gum as I used to do with cigarettes. And that is when I finally broke the habit completely.
My GF had quit smoking in 2011. She used the gum to make it happen but today she still uses the gum. Gum is not cheap but it is better than cigarettes, IMO.
You all can poo poo me and say I should have just quit. Maybe you are right. But in the early 80s I asked my doctor about him giving me something to help assuage the desire as I had heard there were "things' a doctor could use to help you quit. That old narrow minded bastard told me to "just quit". Of course, it did not happen.
My GF's sister is a heavy smoker with an attitude about it. About three years ago, she finally decided she wanted to try and quit. I got my vape stick out of mothballs and got her a couple of bottles of juice. While getting here set up, I took a puff and it was terrible tasting. And I am like how did I manage to even hit on this stuff in the first place. The GF's sister could not make it happen and is still smoking
For your dad, if he wants to quit, I would for sure recommend giving it a try. But it is no different than those that quit cold turkey. As my GF's sister demonstrates, he really has to want to quit. And he has to go in with the objective on weaning himself off of nicotine entirely and not thinking he is going to replace smoking with vaping. I know some who have done that.
The money he saves from giving up a couple of cartons of cigarettes will pay for the vape stick and some juice; I think---see below.
If he wants to quit, I say it is worth a try. Tell him to go for it. I'm living proof that he has everything to gain.
I don't recommend vaping. And I hate to see the kids doing this stuff so they can "be cool". I thought I was cool when I was a kid with a cigarette hanging out of my mouth, even though half the population thought I looked like an idiot so I am not going to try and define was is cool to a oyung person. Nobody knows the long term effect of vaping but can it be any worse than the known effects of smoking?
I don't what vaping would cost today. 5 years ago, vaping was cheap. That stuff slid into the economy while the regulators were asleep. And before they could lay on all of the sin taxes. And now that vaping is gaining traction, the authorities are twisting themselves into pretzels trying to figure out how to replace all of the tax dollars due to vaping causing lost cigarette sales.
" As vaping grows in popularity, it becomes a natural target for governments in need of tax revenue. Because vapor products are usually bought by smokers and ex-smokers, tax authorities correctly assume that money spent on e-cigarettes is money not being spent on traditional tobacco products. Governments have depended upon cigarettes and other tobacco products as a source of income for decades...
"...But because the government becomes dependent on the revenue, if smoking decreases there’s a financial shortfall that must be made up with some other source of income, or else the government must reduce spending. For most U.S. states, the cigarette tax is a major revenue source, and the excise is charged in addition to the standard sales tax assessed on all products sold.
It's funny. On the one hand, the Govt. lambasts the tobacco companies for the poisonous products they sell, but OTOH, if everybody got religion and quit smoking and drinking alcohol, the state governments would be shitting bricks over the lost tax revenue.
And if everybody quit smoking, a large number of gas station/convenience stores would have to close their doors.