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Do you have the right legs on your pin?


By Colsond3

10 months ago



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    #51 10 months ago

    To clarify, I dont know when this sticker was stopped being used, so it is only a general identifier of age.

    #52 10 months ago
    Quoted from pinballlife:

    This is incorrect. Check that length again. They are 30-9/16", although I believe Stern documents them at 30-1/2"

    Corrected. Thanks Terry. Stern are as stated, as a generality 30 1/2”.

    As for Sega, the legs on my Frank were powdercoated at some point, so that sticker is long gone if it was even there. That’s the only Sega game I have at the moment.

    #53 10 months ago

    Perfect timing for this thread, I was putting games in the trailer for Pintastic and you saved me hours going through my pile of legs, you definitely confirmed some of the info I thought I knew was correct, Thanks

    #54 10 months ago
    Quoted from SirScott:

    Anyone know what the correct legs are for a Baywatch?

    Oh S$^^! I knew this coming!

    #55 10 months ago

    !965 Williams front legs. Who makes these?

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    #56 10 months ago

    Well the good news is my HH looks correct, LOTR is fine. But looks like my BK legs are wrong @ 28.5”. I actually wouldn’t mind getting 27’s for just the front...PBR

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    #57 10 months ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    !965 Williams front legs. Who makes these?

    25 1/4”?

    #58 10 months ago
    Quoted from hawknole:

    Well the good news is my HH looks correct, LOTR is fine. But looks like my BK legs are wrong @ 28.5”. I actually wouldn’t mind getting 27’s for just the front...PBR

    I have a pretty nice set of refurbished 27’s if we happen to meet up anytime soon before you order some.

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    #59 10 months ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    I have a pretty nice set of refurbished 27’s if we happen to meet up anytime soon before you order some.

    Cool, thanks for the offer. Maybe we will catch up at Bart’s, he was talking about a possible mini tourney.

    #60 10 months ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    !965 Williams front legs. Who makes these?

    Those are tough to find. I've had to cut down longer legs a few times. And just try to move one of those games with a pin lift.

    #61 10 months ago
    Quoted from DennisDodel:

    Those are tough to find.

    Harder to find original red steel legs for late 50s Williams, and maybe even harder the correct wood legs for earlier games.

    #62 10 months ago

    My imamaculate pins don't even have legs

    #63 10 months ago
    Quoted from Puffdanny:

    My imamaculate pins don't even have legs

    Hahaha, wow, the Baywatch thread spills over everywhere.

    #64 10 months ago

    Just checked Steve Young's site and he lists the following for legs, scroll down to the "Most Popular Applications Chart" area:
    http://www.pbresource.com/legs.html

    #65 10 months ago
    Quoted from hawknole:

    Just checked Steve Young's site and he lists the following for legs, scroll down to the "Most Popular Applications Chart" area:
    http://www.pbresource.com/legs.html

    Also, just talked to Steve on the phone and he said, "27 inch legs are for Gottlieb only." So, my 28.5's on my BK are good.

    #66 10 months ago

    When using ribbed legs do they increase the playing pleasure versus non-ribbed legs?

    #67 10 months ago
    Quoted from hawknole:

    Also, just talked to Steve on the phone and he said, "27 inch legs are for Gottlieb only." So, my 28.5's on my BK are good.

    If Steve said that, then it is gospel.

    #68 10 months ago

    Why it’s important to have the proper legs on a game with all of them at the proper height...

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    #69 10 months ago

    Not sure if already posted, but check out the application chart at the bottom:

    http://www.pbresource.com/legs.html

    Edit: yup, duplicate link... carry on!

    #70 10 months ago

    I have a low ceiling and a sloped floor to contend with. Some creative swapping helped: by swapping the back legs of CBW with the front legs of FT, I was able to gain the proper playfield slope with the topper nearly pinned to the ceiling (otherwise the game would be unplayable unless the topper was removed) This also improved the slope of CBW, which had levelers all the way up and propped up on 2X4 platform.

    #71 9 months ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    That is good...pics below for reference. So the legs on Frank are 30 1/2”, but the manual refers to 30 1/4” similar to Baywatch, which is interesting.

    Quoted from Colsond3:

    70’s Bally EM....28”.

    Hi Colsond3 and anyone who's interested -

    there still is some big misunderstanding going on regarding BALLY-LEGS.
    BALLY-Legs from mid-1967 to 1974 (all models with the lift-up-cabinet-frame) have slightly shorter legs (71 cm) in black or dark-grey
    From 1974 on (the new cabinet) they have exactly the same length as Wiilliams (72,5 cm) in black or dark-grey
    I do not know exactly what this means 'in inches' but it's a fact!

    The early models (1963 to mid-1967) had 77cm grey legs (the same colour as the front-door)
    What is mentioned above regarding Bally '1968 to 1983' is absolutely bullshit, sory!

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    #72 9 months ago

    Here are 5 pins all lined up. The one on the left has a shallow cab and long legs. I can't see that any two pins have the same legs but all down the line the play fields are at same height.

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    #73 9 months ago

    Hi,
    that's not difficult.
    Left - Gottlieb-Multiplayer-Cabinet 1964-1975 - long Gottlieb-legs 79cm
    2nd from the right - Gottlieb-Cabinet 1975-onwards - short Gottlieb-legs 69cm
    the other 3 should have all the same legs - Williams 72,5cm

    #74 9 months ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    !965 Williams front legs. Who makes these?

    I had a set of those at one time, I never knew what they were for so pretty sure I pitched them but I will look around.

    #75 9 months ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    but all down the line the play fields are at same height.

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    #76 9 months ago
    Quoted from Mardi-Gras-Man:

    Hi Colsond3 and anyone who's interested -
    there still is some big misunderstanding going on regarding BALLY-LEGS.
    BALLY-Legs from mid-1967 to 1974 (all models with the lift-up-cabinet-frame) have slightly shorter legs (71 cm) in black or dark-grey
    From 1974 on (the new cabinet) they have exactly the same length as Wiilliams (72,5 cm) in black or dark-grey
    I do not know exactly what this means 'in inches' but it's a fact!

    Use conversion tables before you call BS there Mardi man....

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    #77 9 months ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    Use conversion tables before you call BS there Mardi man....

    What I meant with BS is - there are 2 different legs but in the list pictured you find only 1 length for '1968 to 1983' and this is absolutely wrong for 2 reasons, first because the new length started in mid-1967 after Capersville, and second because there was the mentioned change in 1974.
    This information is incorrect and lots of Bally-Games from 67 to 74 stand on wrong legs therefore.
    And I never meant to attack YOU of course, I wanted to do you a favour regarding your Vampire.

    #78 9 months ago

    There are more mistakes in that 'flipper.be' listing, regarding Willams from 1966 upwards - they used 28,5 and nothing else since the early sixties until 1999, only in 1965 and 1966 they used very short front-legs for the 'lowcharger-cabinet'

    Plus, Bally-legs were black or dark-grey until Williams took over, and not just until 1983.

    And classic Stern never used chrome, they all had light-grey painted legs.

    #79 9 months ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    Why it’s important to have the proper legs on a game with all of them at the proper height...

    yep, but the prob on your case is the penetration angle

    ...

    and i know for sure, before reading, that baywatch would be part of this topic

    2 months later
    #80 7 months ago

    This thread is a great resource. I wonder why DE/Sega moved to longer legs at GnR (and after)? If you compare the cabinets before (up until Royal Rumble)/after it's clear that the bolt holes were moved upwards to accommodate the longer legs.

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    #82 7 months ago

    For WMS Sys 11’s, does anyone know which pin they switched from half rib to full rib?

    Says 1987 in the link provided but i think F-14 should have half rib still.

    #83 7 months ago
    Quoted from Completist:

    For WMS Sys 11’s, does anyone know which pin they switched from half rib to full rib?
    Says 1987 in the link provided but i think F-14 should have half rib still.

    Toteally. Ok, we won’t revisit that mess.

    Most F-14’s I have come across had half ribs on them. I think the issue with all WMS games is that most people just buy a new set of legs with the full ribs because they are shiny and new.

    #84 7 months ago

    Here is the short rib leg compatibility list we came up with, but can't guarantee it is 100 percent complete -

    https://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1939

    Terry.

    #85 7 months ago

    Thanks guys!

    #86 7 months ago

    Cool. Thanks Terry. Now I’m going to have to order a couple sets. I’m overdue for a PBL order anyway.

    3 months later
    #87 4 months ago
    Quoted from Colsond3:

    That is good...pics below for reference. So the legs on Frank are 30 1/2”, but the manual refers to 30 1/4” similar to Baywatch, which is interesting.
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    Can someone confirm this is wrong re williams at 27" ? PB resource has them at 28.5 ?

    For Barracora, Firepower, Starlight etc.

    Thankyou!

    #88 4 months ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    play fields are at same height

    Better get your eyes checked

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