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Do you get a seasonal flu shot?


By cosmokramer

2 years ago



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#2401 76 days ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Not a chance. Sharks.

Let's just hope those that would impose their will on others using scientific jargon and guilt tactics will be swimming in mass on the day that begins.

#2402 76 days ago

Because you should be murdered by sharks for encouraging public health. Definitely. Again, nailed it!

#2403 76 days ago

Sharks gotta eat too. It's called the food chain.

#2404 76 days ago
Quoted from RTR:

Ever notice the pro vaxxers seem to think alike? Illuminati mind control serum!!!! Stay away!

I've never put any credence into man made constructs like banking, real estate, and washing ones hands after going number 2. All scams! Cavemen never partook in such things and they did just fine.

#2405 76 days ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

One thing I’ve learned is that can’t argue with ignorance, anti-vaxxers are right up there with the flat earthers, citing web sites from crack pots to “prove” their points, luckily it won’t be very long until there isn’t a choice in the matter, it’s just a shame people will have to needlessly die until then

I for one will not be forcibly vaccinated. The more we allow the government to think for us , the less we the people have. They already want to do away with the first and second amendments.

#2406 76 days ago
Quoted from chad:

The more we allow the government to think for us , the less we the people have.

Worse yet, we let other pinsiders start thinking for us.

#2407 76 days ago
Quoted from chad:

I for one will not be forcibly vaccinated. The more we allow the government to think for us , the less we the people have. They already want to do away with the first and second amendments.

You will be the first we put into a re-education camp. We know who u r Chad. The Illuminati know all.

#2408 76 days ago

Yeah, conspiracy theories are crazy! I dare you to name one that was ever found to be true.

Flat Earth = Operation Northwoods. Am I right?

#2409 76 days ago
Quoted from RonSS:

Yeah, conspiracy theories are crazy! I dare you to name one that was ever found to be true

Certainly not the conspiracy that everybody should get a flu shot.

#2410 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

Certainly not the conspiracy that everybody should get a flu shot.

It's like "calling for help", what's the real story?

#2411 76 days ago

Here's another anecdotal for us (seems to me that a bunch of these actually becomes a population for study):

A coworker told me today how her young son, who had been vaccinated, came down with the flu. They noted the strain and it matched his vaccine. She was told his symptoms would have been much more severe had he not had it.

Sooo, the shot doesn't even stop what it is supposed to?

#2412 76 days ago
Quoted from RonSS:

They noted the strain and it matched his vaccine. She was told his symptoms would have been much more severe had he not had it.

Sooo, the shot doesn't even stop what it is supposed to?

I'm surprised they even checked to see what strain he contracted. And didn't just prescribe antibiotics like the medical profession usually does with viral infections. Although they only work on bacterial infections.

Earlier in this this thread, a Dr. said they don't usually have the time or resources to determine what a person is actually sick from.

But in his case, the shot allowed him to be out in public until he actually started showing symptons, as supported by the flu vax communtity.

#2413 76 days ago

I was forcibly given a flu shot. True story.

#2414 76 days ago
Quoted from RTR:

I was forcibly given a flu shot. True story.

I mean, was only 3, but still.

#2415 76 days ago

I'm angry at myself for not getting the flu shot this season. I'm just getting over a nasty awful flu that my girlfriend and none of the friends I was hanging out with caught because everyone had their flu shot except me. Ugh... never again.

#2416 76 days ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

Not a chance. Sharks.

Ridiculous... Sharks don't kill people, Lasers do.

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#2418 76 days ago
Quoted from RonSS:

Here's another anecdotal for us (seems to me that a bunch of these actually becomes a population for study):
A coworker told me today how her young son, who had been vaccinated, came down with the flu. They noted the strain and it matched his vaccine. She was told his symptoms would have been much more severe had he not had it.
Sooo, the shot doesn't even stop what it is supposed to?

He had some immunity from the shot, but probably got a very high viral load. He very well could have been one of the ones who would die from the flu if not for partial immunity. The CDC publishes that the shot does not provide complete protection. In some 20% of people they can go on to get a mild case of the flu.

#2419 76 days ago
Quoted from nwpinball:

I'm angry at myself for not getting the flu shot this season. I'm just getting over a nasty awful flu that my girlfriend and none of the friends I was hanging out with caught because everyone had their flu shot except me. Ugh... never again.

I’m glad you didn’t end up a statistic.

#2420 76 days ago
Quoted from ralphwiggum:

Ridiculous... Sharks don't kill people, Lasers do.[quoted image]

Just like guns don’t kill people, bullets do.

#2421 76 days ago

People will die from the flu, but only a fraction compared to those that will die in automobile accidents.

Some might actually die from getting a shot, or get sick and die even with a shot, and others you can be sure some will say it is only because they did not get a shot.

#2422 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

People will die from the flu, but only a fraction compared to those that will die in automobile accidents.

Again. Nope.

Flu killed more Americans last season than car crashes and drug Overdoses.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-flu-season-deaths-flu-epidemic-100-years-20181003-story.html%3foutputType=amp

#2423 76 days ago

Again, Nope

"Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day"

https://www.asirt.org/safe-travel/road-safety-facts/

#2424 76 days ago

Google: total car crash deaths 2018

Results:

In 2018, an estimated 40,000 people lost their lives to car crashes – a 1% decline from 2017 (40,231 deaths) and 2016 (40,327 deaths). About 4.5 million people were seriously injured in crashes last year – also a 1% decrease over 2017.

#2425 76 days ago

80000 dead from flu
40000 dead from car crashes

#2426 76 days ago

You are using GLOBAL car crash deaths

#2427 76 days ago

Downvote all you want, you’re still wrong.

#2428 76 days ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

You are using GLOBAL car crash deaths

Yes. And my statement was "People" not "People in the US"

#2429 76 days ago

Lol. Ok Chief

#2430 76 days ago

Here’s an analogy the antivaxxers might understand. Assume you have a revolver with 20 chambers. If you get the flu shot, then you play Russian roulette with only 1 round chambered. If you don’t get the flu shot you play with 10 rounds chambered.

How about flu shot complications? Same game. Now assume a revolver with 1,000,000 chambers. You load one chamber and then play Russian roulette. Do the math. It’s pretty straightforward.

#2431 76 days ago

You should circumnavigate the globe in your car with the flu and see what happens.

Do you commute overseas in your Yugo

#2432 76 days ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

You should circumnavigate the globe in your car with the flu and see what happens.

Don't just take the highest year to come to your conclusion, compare your average yearly flu deaths to car deaths in the US and see which is more.

I will admit it comes pretty close one way or the other, but originally was talking worldwide.

#2433 76 days ago
Quoted from Davidus56:

Here’s an analogy the antivaxxers might understand. Assume you have a revolver with 20 chambers. If you get the flu shot, then you play Russian roulette with only 1 round chambered. If you don’t get the flu shot you play with 10 rounds chambered.

Here's a more realistic analogy.

Assume a group of 10 pro flu vaxxers show up to to force someone who doesn't want a shot to get one. And he has a gun with 6 bullets in the chamber. He will decide which of the 4 are the weakest and take them out with his bare hands faster than he has time to reload.

#2434 76 days ago

Btw, I get the flu shot every year. Have done so for 40 years. Last time I had the flu was as a child. But I’m sure the flu shot has altered my brain. It has clearly made me less tolerant of ignorance.

#2435 76 days ago

I have not had the flu shot in 45 years. Don’t need it.

#2436 76 days ago
Quoted from Davidus56:

But I’m sure the flu shot has altered my brain. It has clearly made me less tolerant of ignorance.

They have all kinds of other medications to help alter whatever's wrong in your head.

You ever try Zanux?

#2437 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

Don't just take the highest year

Dude, I googled and it gave me last years results! No cherry picking.

#2438 76 days ago

Don’t forget to get your car vaccinated too!

#2439 76 days ago

I drive less than 3000 miles a year, and have never got a flu shot, so I am at super low risk of being hurt by either.

#2440 76 days ago

Think about this for a moment...there are about as many humans alive today, as have died.

#2441 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

Yes. And my statement was "People" not "People in the US"

So wait, you won't take US flu statistics because you say the US population is not representative of you individually but you take a worldwide automobile accident statistic because you think it helps your point? Makes no sense.

#2442 76 days ago

This thread is like a car crash. . I don't know why I keep looking

#2443 76 days ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

So wait, you won't take US flu statistics because you say the US population is not representative of you individually but you take a worldwide automobile accident statistic because you think it helps your point? Makes no sense.

All I said is more people will die in car accidents than from the flu. I didn't use some secret code.

Quoted from FlippinJimmy:

This thread is like a car crash. .

More like a..

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#2444 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

All I said is more people will die in car accidents than from the flu. I didn't use some secret code.[quoted image]

Right but your statement is only true if you use world wide statistics. Do you drive worldwide on a regular basis? I doubt it. If you use US statistics your statement is patently false.

The US statistics would be much more applicable to your situation but you deny US flu statistics because you say the average US citizen doesn’t meet your level of fitness. I guess you somehow equate yourself to the average worldwide citizen more??

You just aren’t making a logical point here.

#2445 76 days ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

Right but your statement is only true if you use world wide statistics.

Right. There are only people in the US and nowhere else in the world.

Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

You just aren’t making a logical point here.

No, you aren't.

#2446 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

Right. There are only people in the US and nowhere else in the world.

You think the worldwide population is a better comparator group for you than the US population? Ok...

#2447 76 days ago

"It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart."

Ulysses Everett McGill

#2448 76 days ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

You think the worldwide population is a better comparator group for you than the US population? Ok...

Apparently more people are likely to die from the flu in the US where more are vaccinated than in car accidents, and more people die in car accidents than the flu in third world countries where they are not as heavily vaccinated.

There, is that what you wanted to hear?

#2449 76 days ago
Quoted from o-din:

Apparently more people are likely to die from the flu in the US where more are vaccinated than in car accidents, and more people die in car accidents than the flu in third world countries where they are not as heavily vaccinated.
There, is that what you wanted to hear?

Can you think of a reason why more people would die in car accidents worldwide vs the US?

You’re making logical mistakes all over the place. You can’t equate car accident death rates in a 3rd world country with no seatbelt laws and different driving styles/laws with a developed country like the US. You also can’t compare flu rates between the two and attribute it to vaccination. There are again confounding factors like people living in big cities vs small villages, air travel, etc.

I’m just pointing out that you are cherry picking statistics based on whatever supports your point of view. It’s not logically consistent to say you won’t accept statistics from the country you live in (which represents the best comparator group) but then use a worldwide statistic which is a worse comparator group.

If we’re going to just pick numbers out of the air, I choose Sierra Leone. 10,315 flu deaths in 2017, only 1,842 car accident deaths. So you are 5.6 times more likely to die from the flu vs a car accident right? What do I win?

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#2450 76 days ago
Quoted from Pinball_Gizzard:

I’m just pointing out that you are cherry picking statistics based on whatever supports your point of view.

You are reading way too much into this. I just googled how many people die in car accidents every year and came up with this.

"Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day."

But it's nice you helped us realize more people are likely to die from the flu in a heavily vaccinated population like the US.

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