Keep up O-Din. The topic shifted to other vaccines. Don't give a shit if you get the flu shot or not. Just wont stand by and listen to bs about how measles vaccines are a con job by big pharma and how Bill Gates is trying to kill people.

When your fucking business impacts others then it's our fucking business. Don't send your kids to school without vaccines. Plain and simple.

As long as we all can agree on that, I'm good.

As far as the others I got the mumps vaccine and got them anyway. No big deal, I got to stay home from school and watch Captain Kangaroo.

Why did Mr. Green jeans always wear blue?

Never get a shot, and NEVER IN MY LIFE had the flu, and I'm old.

I need your blood sir.

Glad were still friends.

Perhaps he was too busy dodging ping pong balls falling from the sky care of some moose to notice?

You get Blenderhead's blood, prepare yourself for skateboarding and the midnight munchies.

Of course!

Hell I already got that minus the skate boarding, tried that once....broke my arm.

We had a B/W TV, I thought he wore grey.

But we do send our kids to school...plain and simple. Dont care about the flu vaccine... Why not?

With all due respect to your smart daughter and her equally intelligent parents, one thing is clear in this thread. Those opposed to the flu shot are not influenced by academic prowess.

If they were, they would be abiding by the advice of the CDC, whose research recommends the shot. Advanced academic degrees in microbiology and infectious disease carry virtually no weight with the antivaxxer constituency.

My two daughters both get the shot, as does my son. None of them laugh at those who disregard the science. If anything, they likely pray for their good health (which is probably as ineffective as abstinence from the shot).

I know lots and lots of super intelligent people who no way in hell will get a flu shot.

Is one of them @SadSack? I think he's the only one who has shared his IQ score so far in here, but there's always time to revive the trend.

No i dont have a clue who sad sack is. Im talking about friends who are chemist, engineers, architects you name it. I also know a doctor who will not inject himself with one and probably 80% of the people that i know who work in hospitals are pissed off because they are made to take them. They do not want them and they are afraid of them. Im not saying that they are bad or good, im just telling you how many people that i know feel about them.

Academic prowess is bought

Common sense is a gift

Unless one has participated in the varsity blues scandal, academic achievement is earned.

The CDC scientists are among the most accomplished in the field of immunology. To deny that fact is to put one's head in the proverbial sand.

I'm a big believer in common sense. But, complex medicine requires complex analysis and input from properly credentialed persons. That's what common sense dictates.

I am not relying on the conclusion of my kids or yours regarding flu shots even if they all were to graduate summa cum laude with degrees in art history. Common sense and science are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, they complement one another.

Indeed. Those super intelligent persons are rejecting the advice of the scientists who have actually studied the flu shot issue.

It's not a matter of intelligence. Instead, it's a matter of expertise and a willingness to accept the idea that other people may actually know stuff that you don't know as well.

It's more of an arrogance issue, in reality.

Or, it could be that the flu shot has been largely ineffective the last couple of years and even in its best years is just a guess.

No doubt your friends (and you) are all very smart. But, have any of them authored a single article in a peer reviewed publication on the topic of immunology?

When they have, they deserve your deference. Until such time, you might as well rely upon your local baker for equivalently weighted advice about this complex subject.

I don't really care if any of you get the flu shot. Do what ever you want, just be responsible and stay home and away from people at high risk if you do get sick. There are too many dumb asses walking around coughing all over everything. Children should receive certain vaccinations in my opinion or they shouldn't be allowed to attend public school. Privately owned schools should have policies that fit whatever their own beliefs. If anyone is arguing against the success in general of vaccines they are viewing a very alternate history that is warped to meet their own desires.

This year I went to publixs for my shot, my insurance covered it and they gave me a $10 publix gift card for groceries. So now I'm $10 richer and less likely to get the flu. I also take my grandmother to radiation treatments at least every other week so I would consider it incredibly reckless and irresponsible not to have one this flu season.

That must mean that flu vaccinations don't work.....

Everyone knows intelligent people that say and do some of the dumbest stuff ever. I know an extremely successful surgeon that no kidding, goes on a trip every year looking for proof of bigfoot.

You should tell that surgeon you are right and they are wrong,,,

You are terrible at this LOL

Risk is inevitable. Minimizing risks is the topic of discussion. To that end...I purchase cars with all sorts of accident avoidance features including pedestrian detection.

Same thing with my health. I do things to ensure I'm safe and do what I can to keep others safe (wash my hands, get a flu shot, cover my cough etc)

STRIKE two

What else? One more shot kid!

Common sense would allow you to recognize that getting straight A's in College and grad school has nothing to do with purchasing power.

What grades did you get in graduate school?

"survey of 400 doctors showed 95 percent planned to get a flu vaccine this season, and 96 percent said they recommend the vaccine to friends and family. The survey has a 5.8 percent margin of error." - Reuters

*Peer reviewed citation required

you guys should check out www.yourteamhastheflu.com!

Levi, shake off the residue from the NFL thread man!

What is that, college?

I retired back in 98’ so I’m a bit out of the loop. Eccentric if you will...

I wonder why insurance companies, Medicare, and and other health plans buy all that flu shot and give it to their members for free? Do they want to make their members sick and Big Pharma rich? How is that in their interest? Why did their number crunchers tell them to do it? I can't figure this out!!

You are even worse at this.

If minimizing risks is the topic of discussion, then why do you even take the risk of getting behind the wheel when 1.5 million people die that way every year? And even more get maimed.

And just out of curiosity how many miles do you and your family drive each year?

Like the super intelligent ones that say " I got my flu shot but got sick anyway, but at least I'm not contagious"

They are every bit as intelligent as the ones that claim the flu shot gave them the flu.

FFS, now I've heard it all.

Man my arm was hurting for days after that shot...damn flu!

Perhaps the shot they got didn't work?

They can definitely make your arm hurt. I've had them be sore for a few days or not at all. Not sure what causes the difference.

Not really. It most cases the shot worked perfectly and they never contracted the strain of flu that they were vaccinated for. Some people are dead serious about thinking the flu shot gave them the flu though.

I work with the public and have heard too many times they got the shot but got sick anyway.

Nothing like having a false sense of security and going out and spreading that shit around anyway.

I'm just going to say what I think.

Unlike MMR, there are too many strains of the flu and that kind of virus is always mutating, so they will never be able to eradicate it.

Gat a shot if you like, or don't if you don't. Plain and simple. I don't see the point in debating that. Some people are healthier than others and take care of themselves so they have strong immune systems. For those that don't, perhaps science can save them.

Dumbass NFL teams damaging their players by offering and sometimes mandating flu shots. What a waste of money!

https://nationalfootballpost.com/monday-morning-md-8798/

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/do-you-get-a-sesonal-flu-shot?tu=o-din

Point is? I never told anybody that wanted one they should not, but there sure have been a lot of others that do that tell others they should.

As long as that is the spiel, this thread will never end.

I have gotten a flu shot every year since I was younger, as have several people I know. And I have never had the flu since (knocks on wood...or remembers "I just got the flu shot"...you can choose). And I'm a paramedic and I'm around sick people / patients infected with the flu constantly. But that's all irrelevant I suppose.

Have any of you guys checked out www.yourteamcheats.com?

Not lately, but I have checked out onethousandreasonstogetaflushotandyouareadumbassifyoudont.com

You dont remember your grad school grades?

Your comparison would ONLY make sense if I got the flu shot AND never left my house for fear of being introduced to the live virus.

This was your last chance and you blew it! Bummer!!!

I'm going to clarify what I meant before I go do more important things today.

My statements were in regards to putting others at risk, not you. There are those that insist by not getting the shot you are putting others at risk just like every time you get behind the wheel of your car.

If you are only concerned about yourself, then we misunderstood each other.

Isn't that Tom Brady's diary?

You’re correct that the flu mutates and there are too many strains to eradicate it with vaccination but the point of the flu shot is not to eradicate the flu.

You are also correct that younger and healthier people usually can weather the flu without serious consequences. The issue is when that younger person gives the flu to granny who dies from it.

And therein lies some of the rub.

"Symptoms can begin about 2 days (but can range from 1 to 4 days) after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those people may still spread the virus to others."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm

(And those that think that "CDC" is a four-letter word, feel free to ignore.)

Can we at least agree that this is the funniest post on this thread, even if not totally relevant to what it was addressing?

(We still love you, O-din.)