Everyone could stand to read this comic. It can help you understand why people can be super resistant to information that is new to them, but is factually correct, provable, obvious, etc and any attempt at changing their mind just causes them to double down.

It's long, but worth your time.

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe

Alright dudes. So we've proven that science is fake, dinosaurs are fake and that jenny mcarthy isnt hot anymore.

Now that we're all woke...lets go next level. Did you know that not only is the earth flat but gravity is fake too????

Wokest of the woke.

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Not getting sucked in by your hate trap any longer.

Wishing you a happy and blessed Thanksgiving.

May you live a thousand years.

You seem emotional. I hope you are able to find guys on the internet who will give you their names and addresses.

In the meantime...

How do you know dino bones arent real? Why wont you answer?

And what I question is whether your sureness is justified or simply a learned behavior. And further, I'm taking nothing from anyone. I said many times you are free to take whatever jabs you want until you tell me I have to. That's where the line is drawn. I don't slight people who think crystals cure disease or copper bracelets reduce pain. You can think ad do whatever you want, but don't decide for me and mine.

Thanks for posting this enlightening article on the backfire effect.

It should be shown at Thanksgiving to all attendees each year. There is a 'clean' version (no cuss words) available if you need to send it to someone that would be offended by the spicy language.

And prior to any conversations during dinner, everyone should review:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions

Wikipedia talks about dinosaurs as if they once existed, so it’s hardly to be trusted. Next thing you’ll be claiming that peanuts are real.

Not sure if this is an appropriate place for this...but I was recently plucking my nose hairs instead of trimming because they have become quite coarse and I was hoping the plucking would reset them somewhat.

Well after my pluck job I decided to research what I had done and learned it’s a big no-no as this region is considered the triangle of death where hair should never be plucked

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You’re in the right thread. Sigma Bears let their nose hair grow free.

Why cant you answer 'how do you know dinosaurs arent real'? How is asking that hateful?

This is true. You can actually get bacterial meningitis believe it or not.

If this were a real problem, we would all be dead by now. The danger triangle is anatomically real, but the risk of death from popping nose pimples ( I can remember being warned by my mom in the 70's) or plucking a hair is super remote. Dr. Oz spends too much time on stuff like this.

Nose plucking death stories would make great click bait - like flesh eating bacteria and that amoeba that lives in stagnant pond/creek water that eats your brain - but I don't ever recall seeing a bonafide nose hair plucking or pimple popping death article.

BTW - I LOVE the direction of this thread.

Forget Dr. Oz. Nobody knows noses like Dr. No.

I thought this was a very interesting article on the development of the flu vaccine:

https://heritage.umich.edu/stories/the-first-flu-shot/

This one response says it all. If you can read this and still agree with SadSack then reading comprehension isn't one of your stronger skill sets.

BTW- SadSack. Nobody builds a building then sits by to see if it kills someone or not. That isn't how engineering works which makes me questions your street cred.

I think Snoop has TOO much THC in his system to ever become infected....

I have more faith in what Snoop says than some pinside keyboard zealots.

These people did: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/six-story-building-collapses-nairobi-2-killed-dozens-trapped

So your fact check website would be Snoops.com, then? Well documented high-side bias.

And another article that says your flu shot was worthless: https://apnews.com/fe93a8ee8bb367874f76c986d0353b7a

You must have posted the wrong link. That article does not say what you say it says.

It says the last two years vaccines were not effective against the predominate strain of the flu and that at least in louisiana no deaths have occured despite a high level of flu. A.K.A the vaccine is worthless.

Great minds think alike.

Everyone agrees that effectiveness rates were bad the last two years, but I'm not sure that translates to "not effective" (which at least to me reads as 0% effective). Here's the relevant quote from the article: "In both of the previous two flu seasons, the flu vaccine performed poorly against the nasty predominant virus."

Not what it says. That's referring to one New Orleans hospital, not the whole state. From the article: "Children's Hospital New Orleans has already seen more flu cases this fall than it saw all of last winter.... Last month was the busiest ever at the hospital's emergency department.... '[The flu] is definitely causing symptoms that will put you in bed for a week,' including fever, vomiting and diarrhea. But the hospital has not had any deaths and is not seeing many serious complications."

Also, if you make your way to the following paragraph (this is in reference to the entire US, not just New Orleans): "[CDC] on Friday estimated that there have already been 1.7 million flu illnesses, 16,000 hospitalizations, and 900 flu-related deaths."

Like the man said, you're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

This comes back to a fundamental disconnect on the meaning of the word "worthless." You and Sack hold vaccines (or at least the flu vaccine) to a robust standard, 100% effective or it's worthless. Of course no medical intervention on earth is 100% effective, and neither are most other things. You're free to call any or all of them worthless, but I'd submit that you're using the term differently than most people do.

You guys hear about the mandatory vaccinations in Samoa?

And if you haven’t had one yet they put a scarlet letter on your door or something

American Samoa?

I thought it was "great minds drink alike." Or "smoke alike" in this case.

Just got my third flu shot

I think so, what’s the difference?

I’m geographically challenged

I think it’s the Samoa where Hobbs and Shaw were fighting with their shirts off

They're both chains of islands way out in the south pacific. But one's an "unincorporated territory" of the US (think Puerto Rico or Guam but even looser ties to the US), the other is its own country.

I don't know about Hobbs and Shaw, but I figure they take their shirts off wherever they go. Got to feed the monkey.

Ah ha...well it’s probably the one which has the US’s finger in its pie

I met Snoop at Disney's Ca. Adventure once. Him and his family got in the raft behind ours on Grizzly Rapids. Everybody was showing their love when they stopped the ride so they could get on.

When he got off, I knew the special door he would be coming out so I waited there with my daughter because she wanted to meet him. Sure enough, as he came out the door, I said "Hey Snoop, you're more popular than Mickey Mouse". Dude smiled and was totally cool.

Forgive me if this has already been discussed.

Are the anti-flu vaccine people here also against MMR? I’m curious how deep this anti-science thinking goes.

They are equally opposed to measles, mumps, rubella and the Medieval Madness Remake.

Yes i am against all vaccines. What happens if you get measles, mumps or rubella? Answer: you get sick for a while, then you get over it. I have never met anyone that has had the measles, mumps or rubella so i see no point in harming me or my child with the vaccine, especially when the U.S. government put limits on how much you can sue the vaccine makers for.

I assume you are serious, but it is honestly hard to even respond to such a silly statement. I have never seen someone with Ebola, so it must not be dangerous (?)

I could see someone not getting one for the mumps but for measles and especially rubella the possible consequences far out weigh any reluctance I would have.

I wouldnt get an ebola vaccine either. If they came up with an ebola vaccine would you get it? Why is it a silly statement? If the incidence is low and the outcomes are good, it is in fact not danerous. Not worth risking a vaccine injury.

I didn’t realize the outcome of Ebola was good.

Do you share some responsibility if a preventable illness returns to the population and ends up killing a bunch of people? If measles is fatal 0.2% of the time, and the incidence rises, more people will die, right? How much responsibility do you have for those deaths?

The US is in danger of losing its "measles-free" status due to anti-vaxxers: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/13/us-could-lose-measles-free-status-if-outbreak-continues-new-york/2300281001/

Anti-Vaccine Decision-Making and Measles Resurgence in the United States: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6657116/

Measles Is Back: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2019/04/29/measles-is-back-blame-the-anti-vax-movement/#47e59bcc5be2

UNICEF blames anti-vaxxers for the 300% spike in global measles outbreaks: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/unicef-blames-anti-vaxxers-for-the-300-spike-in-global-measles-outbreaks-2019-04-25

To those talking about effectiveness, airbags only reduce fatalities by 29% and they are mandated by law.

So your saying i should risk MY health for a disease that is treatable and death rates are low? I take responsibility for my own health first and foremost.

The last death from measles in the usa was in 2015, despite all the outbreaks. It is
a treatable viral infection. Symptoms include; fever, runny nose and a sore throat. I still see no need to chance a vaccine.

How do you think we got there?