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DMD just died, was a perfect dmd, no outgas

By balboarules

8 years ago


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    #2 8 years ago

    Just curious, are the voltages to it correct?
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    #4 8 years ago

    Yes...that's good. I want to know if the board is causing the two negative high voltages to draw together.
    I just fixed a DMD with this same issue.
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    #10 8 years ago
    Quoted from balboarules:

    260 taking both CPUs to be checked

    Ouch. Seems high depending on the repair necessary.

    Quoted from balboarules:

    So you fixed the dmd itself?

    The electronics on the display. Documented here.
    http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=General#DMD_Display_Panel_Repair

    Quoted from falco:

    Can you check the voltages on the power connector that plugs into the DMD panel itself? There are two rails, one at about -108V and the other at about -120, that Chris is talking about. It's possible that the DMD panel itself is pulling them to the same voltage, which is bad.

    Exactly.
    How to test voltages...
    http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Testing_DMD_Controller_Power

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    #15 8 years ago

    Those voltages are too high. While they might work, in the past when I've seen voltages that high, the display would have a "plasma affect" where images that were supposed to be on the display would have surrounded by dots that were not supposed to be lit. And, while I can't say with certainty, those high voltages may be a factor in the death of that display panel.

    I'd take a look at the HV section of the dot controller card.
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    #19 8 years ago

    I note that pins 7 and 8 have a 22V difference. This should be only 12V. If you didn't have a display connected when you took the measurement, those voltages would be about right as the lower of the two negative voltages often tests low when not under load. Also, pin 2, is supposed to be about 12VDC.

    Shoot a picture of the back of the display. I want to see what kind of row and column drivers it has on it.
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    #21 8 years ago

    In your DM, the voltage readings with a known working display connected are normal, right?
    It's the Problematic Babcock display that causes the lower negative voltage to vary from nominal, right?
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    #23 8 years ago

    One of those ICs on the back is FUBAR.
    I can't say which one.
    I'd get an identical display and do some probing around. It's the same design that Vishay/Dale used.
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