Demolition Man
Williams, 1994bonjour
je suis francais excusez moi je ne parle pas anglais
il y a un an j'ai acheter à jamescardona la rom jeu
ou il a creer dans le menu du jeu une connexion shaker
je voudrais installer dans mon flipper
pouvez vous m'aider a trouver ce materiel et la procédure pour le branchement
en attente d'une réponse de votre part
merci
bien cordialement
jean claude lynch
LYNCH has been asked to use Google translator for all new posts.
Chrisbee 
To bring this thread up...has anyone volunteered to work any further? I still have about 40+ anims ready to be finished and right now I might have some time to actually finish them... I just don't want to waste time for a dead project.
Thanks,
Mario - (the lazy animator)
I'm considering (together with colleagues) - but even to take over James and your great work requires massive efforts.
Further I want to make sure that the "soul" of the game is still there after the rewrite. Animations are absolutely great, and the enhanced rules set also makes a lot of sense - but I struggle a bit getting used to the "new way".
I expect to decide within a month or so - and after 100+ games with the new sw 
But that should not stop someone else to get going - open source joint effort!?
Cheers,
Ken
If people want to jump in and update code, that's really cool. There are some bugs still out there. I suspect they may be memory management issues that tend to only happen when multiple modes are running simultaneously. Adding more animations sounds great too. I could help but don't want to be the sole programmer in the effort as my time is fairly constrained lately.
A couple bugs that I noticed..
One time I had started a 3rd 'claw mode'...of course I have no idea what order...or which ones and Demo Time lit. I actually though it was a electrical\lamp matrix issue issue of some kinda. I hit the shot the first time and nothing happen..when I hit it the second time...it started Demo Time
I also started Simon Says and the 2nd multiball..and they were running simultaneously. Of course the flippers were deactivated because of Simon Says. So the balls kept draining, auto saving and plunging until I finished the video mode.
I looked at the code...I used to know C+ back in the early 2000s but haven't written anything in 15ish years. I spent a bit looking at the code and i just couldn't wrap my head around it
Quoted from hank527:What is the current version?
1.01
Quoted from Monster_Bash:A couple bugs that I noticed..
One time I had started a 3rd 'claw mode'...of course I have no idea what order...or which ones and Demo Time lit. I actually though it was a electrical\lamp matrix issue issue of some kinda. I hit the shot the first time and nothing happen..when I hit it the second time...it started Demo Time
I also started Simon Says and the 2nd multiball..and they were running simultaneously. Of course the flippers were deactivated because of Simon Says. So the balls kept draining, auto saving and plunging until I finished the video mode.
I looked at the code...I used to know C+ back in the early 2000s but haven't written anything in 15ish years. I spent a bit looking at the code and i just couldn't wrap my head around it
all the code rules specific to DM are in a folder labeled machine/DM. Almost everything else is the game engine. The animation frames are in the images folder.
There actually is a main, like you would expect to see in any C++, but after post the code goes into a message queue loop. Events on the playfield trigger messages that are dropped in a queue and are served to code that is listening for the message. This is all handled by the engine. If you just want to play with changing rules, read through the code located in machine/DM. I have the files split up by modes.
Any specific questions about what or why I've done things a certain way, feel free to post.
This actually clears it up quite a bit.
I'll drop ya an email next week. I'm sure you could knock some of the cobwebs off rather easily... way easier than me trying to revisit it on my own
Quoted from jamescardona:all the code rules specific to DM are in a folder labeled machine/DM. Almost everything else is the game engine. The animation frames are in the images folder.
There actually is a main, like you would expect to see in any C++, but after post the code goes into a message queue loop. Events on the playfield trigger messages that are dropped in a queue and are served to code that is listening for the message. This is all handled by the engine. If you just want to play with changing rules, read through the code located in machine/DM. I have the files split up by modes.
Any specific questions about what or why I've done things a certain way, feel free to post.
Quoted from mayuh:Yeah, I've had a look in the code... And with my limited knowledge I wasn't even able to update anims for my ROM
Well, lemme know, if you're going to dive into it...
To change images:
1) add the new frames to the images folder. Make sure they are in the pgm format as that is all that the code can read.
2) open the file labeled wpc.ild in the platform/wpc folder. type in the names of the new image files. Here is an example from the .ild file:
IMG_FREEWPC_SMALL: images/freewpc_logo_6.pgm
images/freewpc_logo_5.pgm
images/freewpc_logo_4.pgm
images/freewpc_logo_3.pgm
images/freewpc_logo_2.pgm
images/freewpc_logo_1.pgm
IMG_FREEWPC: images/freewpc_logo.pgm
The IMG_FREEWPC_SMALL and IMG_FREEWPC are name tags for the first and last image. The code calls the image renderer by these tags and basically says start at the first image and continue until you reach the last.
If you want to add completely new animations, instead of replacing, you would also have to add the code to call the animation. That is also not too difficult. Look at the code, pretty much every mode has examples of how I did it.
FINALLY Looking to redo my demo man and curious if anyone has taken this any further or is still using this code?
Anyone who is using it, or has used it, I would love to hear your feedback
I can only say, that I tried it, it works ok... but occasionally the video mode starts in the middle of a multiball 
Not suitable for tournaments, but for home use it's ok. It lacks quite a few of my animations, but I'm no coder, so I can't insert them - now matter how well I would be instructed 
Just give it a try...
Quoted from boiydiego:is wcs94 freewpc working good does somebody known?
Found a post on the Freewpc google group that it has been tested in a real machine.
So yes it should work. You can test first in visual pinball if you're unsure or want to see how complete the rules are.
Would love to see this merge with some of the cool animations used in the dm pin2k build.. like implementing the simon says as 4 squares, or like a simon says toy picture lol. That and if the more light effects could be tossed in there.
Hey guys, I noticed that this has gone dark and there arnt any good play through videos of any DEMOLITION TIME versions past v0.83
I just got what I believe is v1.01, and ill shoot a new gameplay vid to hopefully drum up some interest.
Would love to see these new animations or open up the doors for further dev on Cardona's ground breaking work.
I have been away for a while but checking back on the thread. I wish I could offer assistance to contribute to updating the code, I'm not a coder.. but I can say that I would be very excited to see further updates to this game and would be more than happy to be part of the testing.
This is a very under-rated pin and with this ROM it (IMO) raises this machine up the ranks even further.
James, you are amazing! This was no minor task and just want you to know that your time and efforts were VERY much appreciated!!
Quoted from Laithan:Here is another one that focuses on the DMD
» YouTube video
This one is @ really early version. Maybe 0.83 The animations improved a lot as well as flasher and light show effects.
Quoted from trueno92:This one is @ really early version. Maybe 0.83 The animations improved a lot as well as flasher and light show effects.
FYI - This is actually version 1.01, obtained directly from JC.
Quoted from trueno92:The demolition man on steroids has some really sweet dmd animationa and better light shows and I wish it could be programmed to the rom, but the rom is only a meg...
Worth mentioning Demoman on Steroids also has Demo Time on it as well.
How does DEMO TIME compare to other pinball 'Special events'? Personally I always get excited for demolition time. The light show + sounds are thrilling to say the least. IMO better than my Addams Family mansion mode (my other pin).
Added over 6 years ago: (referring to the original Demolition time mode, not the MOD)
Hello Group,
Been under the weather for about 5 years with major health issues, but I'm back. Just spent 2 weeks shopping out the DM with new LED's and Pin Stadium lighting. Would some one be so kind as too burn the final revision roms for me. Excited to play Cardona's hard work. Appreciate it and gladly will pay for the chip and your time, just send a Paypal money request. Information on which chip I replace would help, also. Thanks, Brad [email protected]
Interested to try this ROM out. Can anyone please send me the latest ROM files so I can burn and test?
I just sold my last chip. prolly I can get more but I appreciate everyone sharing. that is super cool. I did this project and gave the code away for free so it makes me feel good that people are not trying to profit off my work and are paying it forward. good job
Recently picked up a Demolition Man and researching what is out there. This looks/looked really good, wish we had the resources to finish it.
Anyone have James' Demo Time chip available? I would like to try it in my game. It looks like a better rule set than the original.
robotron911 I have a DM chip that came with my machine. I have not tried it and don't know yet if i want to keep it or not. Do you have a way to clone chips?
Quoted from Sammy31:There were bugs with these new roms when I bought years ago and their still seems to be bugs with them now...Original code is still better.
Here is what I can tell you...
There are at least 3 bugs that I am aware of. 2 that probably won't matter and 1 that might.
1) upon boot up, some audio boards are not initially recognized and then make a "chug chug chug" sound for about 5 seconds then everything is fine. This was a bug in freewpc that I never had time to track down.
2) the code is not robust enough to take into account failed switches. If you have some bad switches then the game may play a little funky. The stock code usually looked for this, but mine does not.
3) there was a bug in freewpc related to multiple modes running simultaneously that tended to overwrite memory. I was never able to repeat it consistently and it seemed to appear randomly. All I can say is that if you had an awesome game and started a lot of modes then sometimes things would get screwy. This is obviously a bad one. I guess you should play it for a while to see what you think.
Chris ( Mr_Tantrum) and myself have been working on a Pinsound Remix update. I also have the cardona 1.01 chip, and we will see how it coalesces with Demolition Time update!
I also emailed colordmd for any interest in adding Cardona chip to the colorization.
Quoted from underlord:Chris ( Mr_Tantrum) and myself have been working on a Pinsound Remix update. I also have the cardona 1.01 chip, and we will see how it coalesces with Demolition Time update!
I also emailed colordmd for any interest in adding Cardona chip to the colorization.
Love this, I have a DM with a color DMD and have a Pinsound that I haven’t installed, yet
Wow, 4 super pins in your collection.
Quoted from MPierce:Love this, I have a DM with a color DMD and have a Pinsound that I haven’t installed, yet
Wow, 4 super pins in your collection.
Thank you! I’m hoping to collect the good ones. STTNG is next. Then Red and Teds Roadshow.
Music files sound light years better pulled from the movie. Chris is a beast. He never sleeps.*
* statement based off of email responses. Not actually present during stated episodes of alleged insomnia.
Quoted from underlord:Chris ( Mr_Tantrum) and myself have been working on a Pinsound Remix update. I also have the cardona 1.01 chip, and we will see how it coalesces with Demolition Time update!
I also emailed colordmd for any interest in adding Cardona chip to the colorization.
Hi all... Waking the thread up again
Was there any updates to the ColorDMD and PinSound support? I am actually a bit sad... I still use this ROM and decided to upgrade to PinSound and a ColorLCD screen (did not arrive yet), both of which I think will force me away from using this ROM. I'd love to continue using it but seems I have to switch.
FWIW, got the ColorDMD LCD installed and most of the time the only color you see is blue (as expected). I'm interested in that rom switcher now so I can toggle to this version
Quoted from Laithan:FWIW, got the ColorDMD LCD installed and most of the time the only color you see is blue (as expected). I'm interested in that rom switcher now so I can toggle to this version
it is my understanding that the frame data for the color DMD is on the colorDMD itself and it has some sort of algorithm to detect the frame data being sent to it and then it replaces the old frames with colorized ones. So in the case of this new DM code, it has totally different frames, at least a lot of them, so the color DMD has no idea what they are and has nothing to replace them with. A really dedicated person who had a spare 6 months on their hands might be inclined to colorize the frames and submit them to colorDMD to make this work but I don't know of any such person.
Quoted from jamescardona:it is my understanding that the frame data for the color DMD is on the colorDMD itself and it has some sort of algorithm to detect the frame data being sent to it and then it replaces the old frames with colorized ones. So in the case of this new DM code, it has totally different frames, at least a lot of them, so the color DMD has no idea what they are and has nothing to replace them with. A really dedicated person who had a spare 6 months on their hands might be inclined to colorize the frames and submit them to colorDMD to make this work but I don't know of any such person.
Thank you for helping me understand how this works. I appreciate the opportunity to learn.
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