Quoted from Yelobird:To date I have not fixed over a dozen games both Stern and JJP.
Hoping that is a typo for "now"
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Quoted from Yelobird:To date I have not fixed over a dozen games both Stern and JJP.
Hoping that is a typo for "now"
I am very tempted to try the "playfield iron" myself. Have you had any failures or any cases where doing it made things worse?
Quoted from KornFreak28:Yelobird: Could you please elaborate on the UV light step? Is this done immediately after pressing the area down with the iron? Can the UV light step be done at anytime before mylar and washers?
Can someone post a link to the Titan washers? Are these better than the Lowe's washers that we previously recommended?
https://www.titanpinball.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=154
I never tried the Lowe's ones but these are thinner than the gummy ones I got from Amazon.
I just wanted to ad that @yelobird's technique worked very well. The ripples flattened right out, I sealed with the vinyl rings from PinMonk and topped with Titan playfield washers.
Quoted from smalltownguy2:Every time this thread gets bumped I'm reminded about how annoyed I am that my playfield artwork is chipping off the field. Grr.
Did you try the repair? It really does work and might give you some peace.
Quoted from kell:How'd it go? Any tips for those about to attempt?
Be conservative - a few seconds at a time and don't move side to side.
Be aware that the iron seems to get hotter the longer it is plugged in, so be careful not to overdo it.
Quoted from LukyDuck:Hey yelobird, do you know if anyone has used the iron on the playfield BEFORE the pooling started? I have a deposit on a GnR and am wondering if it would be a good preventative measure rather than the wait and see method. Thanks
My head exploded - never try to fix what isn't broken!
Quoted from LukyDuck:I like to think of it like a cliffy or mylar. Worth a shot if it prevents the pooling in the first place and does not hurt the playfield. If they did this at the factory, then maybe it would help stop the issue from showing up in the first place. I am trying not to go down the rabbit hole.
I absolutely, positively, would NOT recommend heating up the playfield "just in case." I would ONLY do this on already-damaged (pooled) surface, and only in extremely careful short doses.
If you want to pyt down mylar or Titan playfield washers, that would be preventative. Applying heat will do nothing good to an undamaged clearcoat.
I am begging you NOT to do this.
Quoted from Spelunk71:Just FYI, the iron caused the clear to crack around one of my posts. It was probably my fault for leaving the iron on too long (everyone else seems to have had great results), but be careful!
Yes,the iron has no thermostat so it just gets hotter and hotter. Unplug it and cool it down frequently. The least heat possible to do the job is what you want.
Quoted from MeesterPieter:just thinking aloud here but maybe the ironing doesnt only harden the clear enough to not crack up again but may it also make the inking better stick to the playfield? if so this could also be used as a preventive measure in a new game with playfield susceptible to pooling and chipping?
I -strongly- advise against this.
I had some art lifting under a post on Wonka CE - it was otherwise perfect (no pooling etc) and I decided to iron it down as a "pre-emptive" fix.
The first time I did it, it worked. The second time, I overheated it and the clear lifted and cracked.
It's fortunately not in a gameplay area and I bought myself a playfield anyway because we play the everloving crap out of that game, so I'm gruntled.
Let my mistake inform others: never fix what isn't broken, beware the iron heat, only iron if you're pooled and need to do it to arrest damage.
Quoted from Yelobird:Agreed. Preemptive just install Mylar we are not making a grilled cheese here! Also, the iron does Not have a temp gauge. Prepare the area Then plug in the iron. It should be overly warm Not lava hot! The only people that said they had an issue let the iron heat for 5 plus minutes then tried to repair. Do not do that! Plug it in and use within 60 seconds. When repaired Unplug it to cool.
Definitely unplug it between applications. It's a very crude device and will just heat and heat and heat.
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