Looks good northvibe and thanks for the tip on the header direction.

In the previous LED displays I built (Pinitech) there was the suggestion to paint the sides of the digits black. Any need to do that here or that portion not visible with the back glass installed?

Seems like overkill painting them to me. The 7-digit displays are very snug. These things are phenomenal. Thank you bontango

623E3CE1-8798-430E-AE15-345BA067421C.jpeg

B8DAFC64-4E6C-48CE-A165-313C4685FE39.jpeg

CA13B9D6-4FCD-4E68-8DBD-E7DBDB203FE9.jpeg

Cool. Can’t argue with the way they look. Thanks

I havne't put the glass back on yet :-p but from looking at my glass, it should be pretty tight and at play_pinball. I personally don't think so, but not hard to paint if it bothered you.

Play_pinball - yaaaa! I had red (wolfpacs) in my galaxy, looks better than the orange for that game. I love being able to use different colors to match the games.

I just finished a LISY1 for my Charlies Angels - easy to build and setup with inbuilt the pic programmer, it worked straight off with the GTB rom image. The web server diagnostics is a cool feature. A big thanks to bontango for making this great project.

My next step is to write some rules in MPF to modify the game and add the sound hat to go with those rules.

I have a few spare bare boards if anybody in Australia wants to buy one to avoid having to order five. PM me.

20210618_105439 (resized).jpg

My Lisy1 board works fine with the pinmane roms for Charlies Angels and also in hotspot mode for Lisycontrol. Now I'm trying to connect to Lisy1 in MPF serial slave mode - this to make my own rules and add sounds.

I set Lisy S1 dips 4, 6 & 8 to on, plug a usb cable into the Pi zero W usb port and the Win7 host and boot the Lisy. The host pc sees the Lisy on com5

The lisy boots and shows the phase 1 messages: Lisy1 Game05 wait for Pi

it then briefly flashes up the display messages that look like the pinmame roms starting:

Charlies GTB H boot 527 39

but I think I should be seeing MPFser messages: Lisy1 MPFser Software Version MPF server WAIT

finally I get the ip address 192.168.80.1 shown on the displays.

At this stage the green Lisy led is on and I can connect to Lisycontrol in hotspot mode.

Running "mpf hardware scan" or "mpf game" from the host show I am not connecting serially.

Any tips welcome, thanks David.

Thanks bontango for such a fast response (and for your great efforts in making LISY)

The new 5.27 60 version lets me connect serially, boot messages show as expected, "mpf hardware scan" reports that it finds the Lisy board and I've flipped on my first mpf code effort on a physical game - woohoo! I'm now "slaving away" on my code. Thank you.

I haven't been able to get any sound out of the pHAT soundboard on a LISY-35 It seems to see the pHAT sound and it does read the volume pot on the board. The jumper is set to INT for the onboard volume control.

After looking through the LIST image I selected one of the games already configured and am using Spectrum. The LISY-control page looks good and it shows all the available sounds. Just silence if I try the text to speech or play any sound.

On the pHAT sound board I connected a set of amplified stereo speakers into the audio plug on the pHAT sound. Is that supported? Or will I need to connect a regular speaker directly to the pHAT sound card.

Trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong or if I ended up with a bad batch or audio modules and need to get another set and swap them out.

I think it's close and just missing one piece to make it work.

Robert

Thank you. I was able to launch this program.

The pot is definitely functional. I was wondering if you could confirm if these numbers are expected, and if so, what the next step of diagnosis might be?

[Below excerpt from output, first few were just before touching it.. then I adjusted the pot back and forth a couple of times getting extremes]

Thank you-

-----------
Raspberry Pi pot_step test
diff:63
diff:66
diff:69
diff:70
diff:60
diff:69
diff:67
diff:68
diff:64
diff:62
diff:66
diff:66
diff:55
diff:63
diff:71
diff:67
diff:63
diff:70
diff:64
diff:1364
oldpos:1052 - postition:2416
diff:2293
oldpos:1052 - postition:3345
diff:4845
oldpos:1052 - postition:5897
diff:8371
oldpos:1052 - postition:9423
diff:8312
oldpos:1052 - postition:9364
diff:8336
oldpos:1052 - postition:9388
diff:8330
oldpos:1052 - postition:9382
diff:8350
oldpos:1052 - postition:9402
diff:8344
oldpos:1052 - postition:9396
diff:4275
oldpos:1052 - postition:5327
diff:331
oldpos:1052 - postition:721
diff:338
oldpos:1052 - postition:714
diff:335
oldpos:1052 - postition:717
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:336
oldpos:1052 - postition:716
diff:384
oldpos:1052 - postition:1436
diff:4247
oldpos:1052 - postition:5299
diff:7963
oldpos:1052 - postition:9015
diff:80
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:333
oldpos:1052 - postition:719
diff:337
oldpos:1052 - postition:715
diff:333
oldpos:1052 - postition:719
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:336
oldpos:1052 - postition:716
diff:331
oldpos:1052 - postition:721
diff:333
oldpos:1052 - postition:719
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:331
oldpos:1052 - postition:721
diff:336
oldpos:1052 - postition:716
diff:331
oldpos:1052 - postition:721
diff:580
oldpos:1052 - postition:1632
diff:8339
oldpos:1052 - postition:9391
diff:8359
oldpos:1052 - postition:9411
diff:3535
oldpos:1052 - postition:4587
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:331
oldpos:1052 - postition:721
diff:339
oldpos:1052 - postition:713
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:334
oldpos:1052 - postition:718
diff:340
oldpos:1052 - postition:712
diff:335
oldpos:1052 - postition:717
diff:333

Thank you, this tool seems to set the volume as you have indicated fine:

pi@lisy(ro):~$ amixer sset PCM 150
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 150 [59%]
Front Right: 150 [59%]

I tried to start lisy80 after this, but it seems to set the volume to 71% which is so loud the sound distorts.

pi@lisy(ro):~$ ./run_lisy80
LISY80: Throttle value is 1000
LISY80: we are emulating Game No:4 starrace
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/xpinmamerc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/xpinmamerc
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/xpinmame-vid_lisyrc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/xpinmame-vid_lisyrc
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/rc/starracerc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/rc/starracerc
LISY80_SIG_HANDLER: SIGUSR1 catched
This is LISY (Lisy80) by bontango, Version 527 01
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 180 [71%]
Front Right: 180 [71%]
Info: checking for Coil min pulse time extension config

LISY80: opening /boot/lisy/lisy80/coils/004_lisy80_coils.csv failed Info: no coil opts file; or error occured, min pulse time extension disabled
loading rom 0: u2_80.bin
loading rom 1: u3_80.bin
loading rom 2: 657-1.cpu
loading rom 3: 657-2.cpu
loading rom 4: 657.snd
loading rom 5: 6530sy80.bin
done
info: set to 16bit linear mono 41000Hz
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 180 [71%]
Front Right: 180 [71%]

Please let me know what I might look into next?

and thank you for all the help here.. so weird to have this one issue that seems to cause such trouble, but I appreciate the help.

Thank you, I have gone ahead and reflashed this rom. I assumed the PICs are still fine without reflashing.

The same symptom is present unfortunately, loud uncontrolled audio.

The output running the poti tool appears to have some different numbers now:

pi@lisy(ro):~$ /home/pi/lisy/src/lisy/testprogs/poti_step
Raspberry Pi pot_step test
diff:23
diff:8
diff:42
diff:34
diff:15
diff:2
diff:15
diff:29
diff:36
diff:32
diff:27
diff:4984
oldpos:3940 - postition:8924
diff:5419
oldpos:3940 - postition:9359
diff:5495
oldpos:3940 - postition:9435
diff:2281
oldpos:3940 - postition:1659
diff:3221
oldpos:3940 - postition:719
diff:3220
oldpos:3940 - postition:720
diff:3222
oldpos:3940 - postition:718
diff:2882
oldpos:3940 - postition:6822
diff:5374
oldpos:3940 - postition:9314

(Seems to adjust to extremes when adjusting the pot)

----------

Running Amixer:

pi@lisy(ro):~$ amixer
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 187 [73%]
Front Right: 187 [73%]
Simple mixer control 'Volume',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 72 [28%]
Front Right: 72 [28%]

I can set the level like before:

pi@lisy(ro):~$ amixer sset PCM 150
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 150 [59%]
Front Right: 150 [59%]

When I launch Lisy80 now, I observed two new messages that seem relevant?
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Digital',0

(Not sure if I perhaps lost a new config option rtestoring my old setting?)

Thank you-

--------------------

pi@lisy(ro):~$ ./run_lisy80
LISY80: Throttle value is 1000
LISY80: we are emulating Game No:4 starrace
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/xpinmamerc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/xpinmamerc
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/xpinmame-vid_lisyrc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/xpinmame-vid_lisyrc
info: trying to parse: /usr/local/share/xpinmame/rc/starracerc
info: trying to parse: /root/.xpinmame/rc/starracerc
LISY80_SIG_HANDLER: SIGUSR1 catched
This is LISY (Lisy80) by bontango, Version 527 39
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
Capabilities: volume
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: 0 - 255
Front Left: 182 [71%]
Front Right: 182 [71%]
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Digital',0

amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Digital',0

Info: checking for Coil min pulse time extension config

LISY80: opening /boot/lisy/lisy80/coils/004_lisy80_coils.csv failed Info: no coil opts file; or error occured, min pulse time extension disabled
loading rom 0: u2_80.bin
loading rom 1: u3_80.bin
loading rom 2: 657-1.cpu
loading rom 3: 657-2.cpu
loading rom 4: 657.snd
loading rom 5: 6530sy80.bin
done
info: set to 16bit linear mono 41000Hz

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I also tried the LisyFAST distribution, however this did not seem to give me any audio at all?

bontango I have a Gottfa80 running well in my Genesis - but suddenly I discovered that the high scores aren't kept.
DIP #8 is off.

What happens is that there is a set of high scores registered, let's say 3000000, 2000000, 1000000 etc.
When I score 1500000 in a game I enter my initials and the score is displayed, so now the high scores are 3m, 2m, 1.5m and 1m for example.
I switch off the game, come back to play the next day - and the 1.5m million score is gone !
The 3m, 2m and 1m are still there, though.
They don't change.

I tried booting with DIP #8 on.
The scores (and credits) appeared to be reset.
I then switched off the game and turned DIP #8 off again.
When I turned the game on, the high scores reappeared - and the credits as well !

What could be the cause of this ?

Sure, I'd be happy to try that. Would be a workaround for the issue for sure.

Thank you-

Yes, you are right, bontango - the high score was saved when I pressed the credit button after entering my initials.
It is not saved when the credit button is pressed for each letter it seems.

As to unique things happening - well, the credit button is pressed after each letter - and the letter buttons themselves are unique ?
Other than that, no, the game goes straight into attract mode.

Yes, 5 seconds should be enough, I imagine

Thank you, I tested this and it seems to work!

One thing I did notice is that it does not work with the TEST sound mode (using pinmame emulated original sound effects)?

I was wondering if this gives any clues as to why the pot would not work to adjust this. A variable perhaps being the rom itself?

Thank you-

Anyone know what the file name for pinmame joker poker is?

jokrpokr

Thank you!

This info is super hard to find. I know they probably cracked down on roms but having a file list public may be nice? Unless there is and I can’t find it?

run pinmame with -list and it will tell you
-listfull will give you descriptions as well

Interesting. Do you think this is mostly performance related? I didn't think it was too bad for my testing with Star Race, although the volume was maxed of course, so I figured the distortion was related to that...

Performance also seemed improved with LISY Fast. Running on the Pi ZeroW anyway. I noticed the difference empirically anyway with regard to a slight lag on the audio after hitting a drop and so forth.

Ahh, I’m on a Mac I’ll have to load up my windows laptop. Thanks!

Alright. This game is driving me nuts. From a joker poker. Original mpu can’t add players (but worked otherwise), spare mpu locks on outhole (came from roller disco and did the same), I put the Lisy1 in and it also lock/pulses the out hole. I see there is diagnostics but it looks to be for pi related boot issues.

LI may try the control boot to login and test solenoids individually, but other than that, is there any diagnostics on the board for a weird solenoid issue?

Are the wires on the outhole coil connected correctly? Is the diode present on the coil?

Yup, all wiring and such checks out, the original board to JP works as it should for the outhole, it’s just the two boards used in a roller disco…

Im flashing the Lisy1 to v5.x. I was on 4 as it was from 2018. I’ll retry, but this was the same issue roller disco had randomly after working correctly for a while.

EDIT: New 5v software didn't fix the issue. However it made me think. Can a bad driver board break the chip/logic on the lisy1? When I traced this issue on roller games, it showed the mpu pulsing the out hole coil. Curious how it could of broke the lisy1 board? I'll see about running the coil tests tomorrow when I can get the machine on.

Also this time I put the fast boot on, wow, for this pi zero, it boots pretty quick.

I just tried...and tried...then realized this is not a wireless pi zero... DOH.

However here is an update to my issues:
Original board in JP would not allow more than 1 player. I found this was a bad diode on the knocker coil. I had added a molex to the knocker to get the chime unit out easier and it was unplugged from testing at night and I realized I could add more players today. Then tested the diode and sure enough it died. Replaced with n4004 and it works. So original board(s) are working in the game.

LISY issues - with chimes/knocker not plugged, it still locks the outhole open. This lisy1 and the spare oem board both exhibit the same issue and were pulled from a ROller Disco. When used in my JP the same outhole locked on when start was pressed same as rollerdisco. On JP I repinned all connectors. I checked the outhole switch, all looks good. The only change was the MPU and interconnect, and again the original one works.

I had repinned the interconnect, the game still locks the outhole and the lisy1 blinks the solenoid led over and over. do you think something could of corrupted the logic/roms? I mean it is such a weird issue that the lisy1 would be the same, unless the interrconnect is the issue, but I am moving joker poker out, so I won't have a sys1 in the house to test with. I need to find a wireless zero so I can have that on this board.

EDIT: I'd be down to ship these two boards and interconnect off to someone with a sys1 test system to see whats going on. I'll look to see if anyone has something like that in the US

Kind of sounds like you have a few bad transistors on the driver board. These are pretty easy to test or just replace suspect ones.

Original board mpu is back in JP and it’s works 100%…. I thought it was a driver board too, but it doesn’t seem that way.

Wow that is odd.. so the whole game plays well? trough switch kicks ball out etc with original MPU?

And when you say locked on, I presume you mean engaged and not dropping.. i.e., not just constantly trying to kick the ball out, but stuck on and will overheat.

Yup! the original mpu is in and working.

Locked on meaning, the outhole coil stays engaged, not dropping as you stated.

Hey, had a thought about my LISY80. I was wondering (forgive me if this is already possible), about having the LISY80 play sound in conjunction with the OE sound option?

The use-case for this would be a bit of a stop gap, with some issues related to sound (sometimes it is not feasible to customize everything, or fitting), but the LISY audio output could be configured as more of a background music option. Both ball-to-ball, random tracks, or perhaps even a jukebox mode similar to new sterns, where you can play music when not playing etc?

Thank you-

Do the FPGA versions run 6800/6821 cores or is it still running pinmame on another core?

Ever thought about doing a LISY Bally 6803 system board?