Interesting, I'm assuming this is just like the Pascal all-in-one. Anyone on here running these boards?

There are a few people on the board who have them, I'm thinking of buying a 3 pack of system 80 boards and giving it a go when things quiet down here.

Might have to try one of these.

I have a sys80 in my black hole and sys1 in my Genie and count down. Think the -35 is new?

I’ve been running the 35 in one of my Harlem Globetrotters for a while. I’ve run it both ways. You can run the Pinmame ROM directly. That’s the easy way. However, you can also run it in MPF (Mission Pinball Framework). And that’s where the fun comes in.

My overall project is to re-write Kings of Steel in MPF to be a good game. The right target will be removed and replaced with a drop target. And the LISY35 was the platform that could enable me to do that.

bontango has been very helpful to me in trying to do this. Dare I say, he’s brilliant.

My friend John was the one that showed this project to me first. For anyone that was at Pintastic in New England this year, his Charlie’s Angels was running a LISY1 there.

Getting involved in this project is a blast. I will say, it does take a bit of skill to assemble the board. But if you have soldered a board before, you should be able to tackle it. And it’s really worth it, because having a board you assembled in your game is a pretty cool feeling.

I saw comments about a Williams System 3-11 series LISY, would love a replacement for those.

I've got a Pi3 model B sitting around unused, can the setup use that? Anyone try that yet? I saw in the assembly guide that it supports various models, sometimes with modification. Just curious what people have tried.

Anyone have any pics/vids of the assembly process, testing, etc?

This would be awesome - anyone really good with this stuff willing to jump on this and provide the Mouser/Digikey shopping list? I would, but I know I'd screw it up somehow ha.

Here is the LISY35 inside my HG.

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Anyone interested in doing a System 80 LMK, we can team up and give it a go.

I like the idea that the System 80 board will work in ANY System 80 regardless of early, late, A or B. Just change out the image and your off.

I've ordered the sys80+1 parts from digikey before (although both as one order). I can probably export the list if needed.

The LISY is a good idea, but it needs to be packaged with everything you need: boards, parts, and roms. Without that, I'm out.

Can't provide roms, copyright.

Easy enough to find though.

I'm serious about building a System 80 and willing to do a Mouser order list. I just spent 2-3 hours tracking down and ordering what I needed to do a System 80 battery board repair, this looks simple in comparison.

Hi bontango +
I once started this topic https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/add-ons-in-the-logic-of-pascal-janin-boards --- nobody joined. I wonder how complicated it is to use Your LISY1 on a Gottlieb Joker Poker SS - original ruleset BUT changing the "times five bonus multiplier" to "times two bonus multiplier" ? How about "implementing the EM-Rule-Set" ?
On SS-Pins I am limited to "close to zero, nothing" --- all I ever did was pulling out the old, broken board - putting in a new Pascal Janin all-in-one-PI-1X4. Greetings Rolf

Changing any rules with the LISY is probably going to be the same as writing the rules again from scratch. (which is what Janin did anyway...)

https://www.flipprojets.fr/Downloads_EN.php

Sample code from Cleopatra if you want to see what's involved with modifying System 1 code. Looks like it could be done if you are so inclined, the syntax looks really, really, simple. Likely the 5x code is going to be TEST [5X lamp], SCORE 1000, 5 (for the 10's, for instance). So you'd change the 5 to a 2 to get 2x bonus instead.

Implementing the ruleset with non-resetting the drop banks like the EM does, looks like the solenoid command is SET S[olenoid #].
You should be able to grab the Cleopatra personality rom, match it up with the code they posted, and then duplicate it for Joker Poker.

To clarify my post, I was referring to the original prom in original boardset (and presumably, the rom put into a LISY board). Reverse engineering code isn't for everyone though. Sometimes it truly is easier to re-write the whole thing, especially with very simple ruleset games like all system 1's are.

I'm about to start working on bringing back to life an Eight Ball Deluxe machine... and all its boards are dead! After reading this thread it seems that LISY is an awesome project... And it could definitely help me save my EBD, coupled to some Alltek solenoid/lamp boards...

I have 3 questions:
- if I use a pHat soundcard, can it play the ROM sound output generated by pinmame ? Or am I forced to provide sound files ?
- on the LISY35 status page, EBD is "yellow" and the comment is "beim Booten werden die vom Aux Lamp driver Board"... can you explain a bit more ?
- does anyone have an extra LISY35 PCB for sale ?

Thanks!

Few months later.... finally joining the lisy club!
I got my digikey order and I'm starting to solder resistors tonight

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First noob mistake.............. I ordered the wrong I2C repeater chip (PCA 9517). Its packaging is to small.... TSSOP instead of SOIC...

Just one component missing and I'm done

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I finally finished the board this week-end... And it works! (on the bench). All PICs got programmed with no issue. And the lisycontrol web server is working... To be continued!

Another LISY35 up and running on the workbench pinball rig!

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Nice! And I see you have all the accessories for a proper bench test! On my side I have to finish working on my Eight Ball Deluxe cabinet which was in a pretty bad shape before I can fully test the board... And progress is a bit slow these days!

Never been that close to have LISY35 controlling my EBD pinball...
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But as you can see I still miss a couple of pieces

Has anyone here done the Bally35 with optional sound? I'm thinking of revamping a Bally Star Trek with up to date music and sound effects and might explore this route.

I may go that route at some point, as my S&T soundboard does not work. I plan first to see if I can work with the sound output from pinmame.

Where is the link to order bare boards? Not sure what I am missing but I followed the link from lisy.dev then clicked on the CPU type for SYS80 and it takes me to https://aisler.net/bontango/lisy-mpu/lisy80-6-0-3 but there's nothing to click on to order one?

Anyone have a spare Lisy1 pcb they want to sell? I don't need 3 at the moment but would love to try one in my Totem.

Progress........

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Thanks for uploading the Gerber files. Do these specs look good? I am going to try an order through JLCPCB.

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I'm in for a BALLY 35 if someone is ordering.

Thanks. I'll have 5 LISY System 1 boards soon if anyone needs one.

Just received 5 LISY1 Boards. I'll document the build as I go.

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Does this board use any surface mount components?

Please do, this thread is too quiet

Lisy1 doesn't with the latest version. all through-hole. looks very simple.

Could someone please walk me through or describe the basics of ordering Bally-35 MPU PCB's through JLCPCB?

More progress on my EBD revival project...
I managed to troubleshoot all the non working lights thanks to the web server of LISY35.
Now my EBD playfield is fully lighted up!
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By the way I replaced the switched bulbs with LEDs, and they don't seem to flicker... usually with these 80's bally lamp boards, you have to add 470 ohm resistors in parallel to prevent flickering... Would that mean LISY is using a different way to turn on/off the lamps, which would mean I won't have to add resistors ? (I tested only using the LISY test mode for now, not in game mode)

It depends on where in the zero crossing cycle they are refreshing the bulbs' status.

Thanks for the details! Makes sense.

And good news for me... no need to spend few nights soldering resistors on 70 old bulb sockets (I could also have bought the special resistor adapter boards they sell, but I'm glad I did not)

Quick update... I tested, lamps, switches, solenoids... Everything works well from LISY Control. Now starting to play with the sound. I added a Hifiberry on my LISY35 board. I can confirm the "pinmame sound" mode does not work well (as expected, because of pinmame linux issues). So I will use the internal sample mode. I started to record the EBD sounds using pinmame on Windows... Will keep you posted.